People say you feel vibrations/numbness when you astral project.....

awww...no opinions haha?i can take criticism. i actually encourage it. it might help me successfully have an OOBE

explore the concepts + trial and error!

i always did it with my eyes open (no music), had to be in a very dark room though. noise never bothered me... main thing was to switch off your mind and just feel. sometimes specks of light would appear and i'd look at them, feel/connect and it'd begin. other times energy/lights would appear in the corner of my vision and i'd follow them in circles and all of a sudden it began

good luck



Last Edited by xen on 12/18/2011 05:48 AM

thx or the good luck

I almost did astral projection once..I was half way out of my body, I got stuck from head area :( damn..so close..there is something around my head which prevented deattaching.

I've found the sensations I got when first starting out have changed/disappeared. I seem to just find myself out now, rather than have to push or pull myself out. Also the vibrations are minimal compared to earlier... can't even remember the last time I felt them.

Try going to bed around midnight, getting up around 4AM, staying up for 2/3 hours, then going back to bed if you can manage it. See if you don't get some action during the 'second sleep'. Cheers and good luck.

I've astral projected. Its been years and years ago, before I had a family and stuff, but I know the feeling like it was yesterday

I used to produce the effect by not only closing my eyes, but doing count-downs from 100 to 1, and focusing on the count. (you know how your minds distracts itself with random thoughts and visions)

anyway, yes, there are vibrations. you can "see" them (or at least I did) as brownish rings moving back and forth over your body, much like a magician would pass a hula-hoop over you.

The "rings" increase, and you can actually feel the vibration increase to a point where the vibration is closer to a hum, then you can get out.

Many times, getting back in was much like a falling feeling. Sometimes the falling feeling was so pronounced I thought the bed springs would bounce me back up again.
hope this helps

Just goes to show how different this experience can be for different people.

The hum to me sounded (and felt) like a wasp or hornets nest.

I second this notion. We are too programmed into forcing our bodies to sleep for 6 - 8 hours at a stretch. If you can somehow change your schedule to have two sleep periods, even if you just get up, walk around and stretch for 15 minutes in between the 2nd sleep would be 'more open' to astral. the first sleep is to give the body the rest it needs. if you are actually tired, astral is difficult.

Personally I'm not so sure it's your mind per se, but your Astral "body" that is linked to your mind that goes "OOBE".

The process is one of allowing the body to go to sleep while keeping the mind awake. It takes a lot of consistent practice to be able to achieve that. To prevent the mind falling asleep you need to concentrate on something such as paying attention to the images you are seeing or listening for any sounds which could signal the onset of the sleep paralysis phase. Some people concentrate on real sounds such as low-level music to help them retain the thread of awareness, but others find they need total sensory deprivation to concentrate more effectively on the inner sensations.

Try this?

[link to www.astralprojectionebook.com]

I use a fan for white noise, and practice scrying (or just letting random images pop into my minds eye) while dozing off, seems to help. It's a good indication I'm going to have Astral adventures when my third eye throbs/crown tickles and I get a "someone else in the room" sensation...

or this
[link to research.obe4u.com]

Sway's in the UK. Astral is about the ONLY way you're gonna get to see her body.

The numbness is an actual physiological response since your body is falling asleep while your mind remains awake. Its not like pink floyd numbness where its a state of comfort. The vibrations are an etheral phenomenon. Thats what your energy body experiences as its frequency rises in anticipation of the separation. You can achieve both of these events most easily using the hypnogogic state. Otherwise prepare for months of tibetan style disciplined meditation.

i do that counting thing to, but i take 10 deep breaths than 1 super deep breath haha...since 11 is supposed to be a spiritual number thought it would be good symbolism haha

hahahaha

now that i'm actually thinking about it, when indians and other people who live in tribes do rituals to get visions, they have some thing that numbs their body. i dunno what it's called but this one tribe grinds up a root and the person looking for a vision eats a paste. and indians smoke the ganga or something to get visions. i think people who find away to get out of their body naturally get better visions cuz their mind isn't being altered.

I got a boner so I never carried on .... with the OOBE that is..!

Regards
Jules

Similar circumstances for me, as well!

i've astral projected but do everything to avoid it because i hate the sensation and it freaks me out.
i didn't know what it was at 1st and it took me years to finally figure out that was was happening to me was astral project. i would astral project mostly when i had anxiety.
also if i lay on my back it induces it more, so i lay on my side. i also noticed that sleeping with a black light on would trigger it. so i stopped that.
i don't astral project anymore because i think i've just given the "signal" out to the universe that i am not ready for that yet.
i'll have plenty of time to be out of my body when i'm dead. righyt now i want to be IN my body.

for me it would start out with a low pulsing sensation and a sleep paralysis. as the vibrations grew faster i would be able to come out of my body a bit.
i never came all the way out even tho i did try a few times.
i never felt numbness. in fact, i felt TWO bodies. i could feel my physical one and my astral one both at the same time.
i could feel my hands laying my my bed, and then i could lift my astral hands out of my arms and touch my astal hands together and it felt EXACTLY like how it feels when you touch hands with a physical body.
quite the sensation to have "4 arms" for a bit.

nce i then put my astral arm through the couch i was laying on and felt all the layers of frabric and spone and coils as i went through. that was odd.

i felt at the small of back back to and , indeed, there was an astral cord, or what i imagine it was. it was very thick, i hadn't expected it to be so thick. i'd say it was 12 inches in circumference or more.

when i touched it it felt like how when you take two magnets and try to push them together when they are not attractived to each other. my hand would kinf of feel this energy and and bounce off the "cord" . it kind of "tickled" but was not uncomfortable.

i don't like astral projecting because every time i do it seemed like there was something in the room watching me that i didn't want there.

but one time, i'm pretty sure it was the clockwork elves, came to me and tried to tell me a story.
and i thought, ok, omg this is what it is like to be schizophrenic and hear voices.
i was pretty freaked out by it and they knew and were kind and so stopped and said "thanks for unifying!"
it sounded like an am radio right next to me ear.

that has never happened to me since.

i just don't feel comfortable "in that dimension" i can still look around and see my room i was in but is was waving and melting kind of like how acid is.

but i didn't feel prepared to that kind of experience or feel safe.
so i worked on stopping it.

after all that happened to me i read a bit about it in robert bruce's "astral dynnamics" book and it pretty much mirrored my experience.
so i'm qute sure that what was happeing to me was not a dream. i know i was awake. you know how you know you are. i just was. awake for the whole thing.

i see robert bruce has a website now so i went to look it up:
[link to www.astraldynamics.com]

has also has a good book on psychic self defense that i thik is very important and helpful for people who are sensitive to having their boundaries violated.

were you just trying to go to sleep?

i was trying to go to sleep. but i wasn't all all asleep yet.
my theory is that my anxiety was making my body and astral body have slightly different "frequences" or "vibrations" or whatever you want to call it. so when i was stressed i would sort of detach from my physical body a bit.
i would get the sleep paralysis because the body needs the astral body in it to move.

weird