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Cancer, the key to immortality.

 
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Immortality in this world? NO THANKS!!!
In a improved utopian world? Maybe
Just consider the baddies of this world living forever. Makes me shudder.
Fix the world first - then lengthen life.
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"The" Truth is the lie.

There is only Truth...it is the supply of power which the lie depends upon to sustain it's existence.

That which is infinite supplies the demand of that which is finite to sustain it's existence.

Lies absolutely capitalize upon Truth to sustain their existence.

Lies take more power than they give to sustain their existence.

Appearing as Truth.

Until they require enough power to become Truth.

Then they are annihilated because the only way to become Truth is to defeat Truth and obtain absolute power over all and everything.

No such power exists.

That is revelation of the lie you thought was Truth.
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I thought it was about immorality. Damn.
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I thought it was about immorality. Damn.
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I wonder why? :ponder:
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I thought it was about immorality. Damn.
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I wonder why? :ponder:
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me too.
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me too.
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Ready to protest today?
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me too.
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are you wary of having some cancer?
Ready to protest today?
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me too.
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Ready to protest today?
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are you wary of having some cancer?
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If you reach immortality, do you stop aging?
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well, from a traditional "faith in the system" point of view, perhaps there are ways to lengthen lifespan...

but this ignores the obvious: cancer is an industry and it seems likely the design of the system we are in is giving us cancer... you know: toxins in the food and water, gmos, vaccines (there is a link) etc... the average cancer hospital does not even know about advanced nutrition and treatments...

in California, if your child get diagnosed w cancer they can take him from you and force you to do chemo...

we are not meant to live forever in the physical... this is a proving ground...

Christ is the key to immortality.
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I think we all have a bit of cancer every now and then.
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Interesting subject.

I don't think an immortal, if possible, could maintain his brain for long..
It would be OK for the masses.
They wouldn't notice a difference.

Idiocracy .. yeah, yeah, yeah..

dance
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well, from a traditional "faith in the system" point of view, perhaps there are ways to lengthen lifespan...

but this ignores the obvious: cancer is an industry and it seems likely the design of the system we are in is giving us cancer... you know: toxins in the food and water, gmos, vaccines (there is a link) etc... the average cancer hospital does not even know about advanced nutrition and treatments...

in California, if your child get diagnosed w cancer they can take him from you and force you to do chemo...

we are not meant to live forever in the physical... this is a proving ground...

Christ is the key to immortality.
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this^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Bible thumpers please chime in any time you like...

If one buys into this mythology LITERALLY, well of course you know when we were first created we WERE immortal or damn clkose to it, then YOUR God got all butt-hurt because the things he created actually had the unmitigated audacity to actually USE the capabilities HE gave us and decided to kill us all, and THIS is how YOUR God condemned us all to the Pit.

By blinking HIS magical Holy eyes and Shazzam! all of a sudden the mechanism to perpetually re-grow cells and renew one's physical body was removed. Ever since then, we've had old age and DEATH.

Thanks God.

And CANCER is the remnant of that immortality switch being turned off, but even HE in all HIS Superiorness FUCKED IT UP, and sometimes nature doesn't want to obey HIS dictates, and we end up with a wholly new and horrendous way to perish.

If you buy into this crap, like I said.
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If you reach immortality, do you stop aging?
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These two things are not quite the same but very closely related.

One of the ways the body protects against cancer is to downregulate cell proliferation as you age as well as the hormones that are involved in the process. Men and women have lower testosterone and estrogen, leading to weaker bones or muscles. Eventually, even if you are still breathing, life is too difficult to do anything and obviously being indefinitely infirm is not our goal.

However, if you have the ability to "cure" cancer you open up the window to stem cell therapy. One of the major problems of playing with stem cells and promoting their growth in the body (and thus repair of tissue) is the trade-off that we have evolved to balance with cancer. If you are no longer worried about cancer, you have a vastly improved ability to repair the body the way it repaired itself as a young person - often bouncing back stronger than before.


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BTW I am getting a PhD working on cancer therapy and in particular modes of treatment that open the door to expansive use of stem cell therapy for enhanced human longevity.

Ask me anything :)
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IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
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You are correct in theory. We WERE/ARE created to be immortal. But not these bodies, in this state (that is environment - earth). TOo much pollution, injury, illness has come upon it.

The perfect plan, the plan of GOD was for us to live forever in our bodies, on this earth. But sin and disease has polluted it.

We will live forever in a NEW "heaven and a new earth," someday.
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The secret to physical immortality is already well-known in Eastern gnostic traditions. It has to do with conserving sexual energy. For men this means stop throwing the white stuff away.

ps: Charles Pgg, if you're reading this please know that I'll be back. Please don't give up on me .Thanks.
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The secret to physical immortality is already well-known in Eastern gnostic traditions. It has to do with conserving sexual energy. For men this means stop throwing the white stuff away.

ps: Charles Pgg, if you're reading this please know that I'll be back. Please don't give up on me .Thanks.
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and diet, apparently... only above ground, fruited, etc

tho it wouldn't surprise me it there are deals made w the supernatural system controlling things here...

and these abilities do not seem to end well for the practitioners...

expect the same in the afterlife, without Christ...
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Immortality in this world? NO THANKS!!!
In a improved utopian world? Maybe
Just consider the baddies of this world living forever. Makes me shudder.
Fix the world first - then lengthen life.
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That was exactly my thought! Imagine the types of people that would have the fastest access to living forever because of wealth and power... and then think about how new technologies have a tendency to fail the first few times around. Science is fascinating but will most likely be our downfall.

Thanks for this thread OP! I always found the way cancer operates fascinating and like to explore the implications.
paz
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I totally agree, cancer is the new immorality. When those with money and power want you sick, well, that is just sick.
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Bible thumpers please chime in any time you like...

If one buys into this mythology LITERALLY, well of course you know when we were first created we WERE immortal or damn clkose to it, then YOUR God got all butt-hurt because the things he created actually had the unmitigated audacity to actually USE the capabilities HE gave us and decided to kill us all, and THIS is how YOUR God condemned us all to the Pit.

By blinking HIS magical Holy eyes and Shazzam! all of a sudden the mechanism to perpetually re-grow cells and renew one's physical body was removed. Ever since then, we've had old age and DEATH.

Thanks God.

And CANCER is the remnant of that immortality switch being turned off, but even HE in all HIS Superiorness FUCKED IT UP, and sometimes nature doesn't want to obey HIS dictates, and we end up with a wholly new and horrendous way to perish.

If you buy into this crap, like I said.
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dude, from the extensive stuff I have seen and read, cancer is your body's adaptation to keep you alive longer, while it deals with a toxin or virus that might otherwise kill you in hours or days...

often they find toxin/virus within cell...

then there is the fact that cancer does not survive in a high pH and oxygenated environment... btw, there is 50% more oxygen in air trapped in fossilized amber...

the creation is still falling... species dying, cancer spreading...

BUT, if you take care of your body as a temple, you can heal any cancer and prevent most, praise Jah!

:)
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God creates free will sovereign beings in His image...

why do you create?

God wants us to glorify Him by figuring out there is a God and choosing Him...

the supernatural forces(you know, the ones our leaders worship) here were placed here by God to weed out His creations...
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Im serious, bare with me, My Esoteric blog has a entry on this implied subject...
Maybe the ancients were trying to tell us something.


THE KINGSHIP and the CHILD OF PROMISE UNVEILED
By Apollo.


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THE KINGSHIP and the CHILD OF PROMISE UNVEILED

Deeply fatigued, the pregnant Mother is led to the Manger which is Praesepe, Cancer directly overhead, in the Midnight sky.. Known as "the multitude" The Egyptians saw it as the Scarab in which the Virgin Mother gave birth to her divinely conceived child. The Hebrews saw it as Ash, the Butterfly. The Masonic symbol of the Beehive is there as well in the Beehive cluster of stars known as M44. The Three Wise men that visited the Child "Orion" is the Three Belt stars of Alnitak, Alnilam and Mintaka that gird his promises with three gifts of Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh and is directly overhead as well in the winter sky.


"The ritual of nativity, as it appears to have been celebrated in Syria and Egypt , was remarkable. The celebrants retired into certain inner shrines, from which at midnight they issued a loud cry, "The virgin has brought forth ! The light is waxing!" The Egyptians even represented the new-born sun by the image of an infant which on his birthday, the winter solstice , they brought forth and exhibited to his worshippers. " - Frazer




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Even Job awaited this "Priest Prince as Cancer was Khan Ker in Arabic. Job 19:25 “I know that my Redeemer Lives, and He will stand on the Earth in the Last Days. And though after death worms consume my body, yet in my flesh will I see God, whom my own eyes will behold, and not another’s.”


Christians see the Sun God reflected in Christ. As the little baby son is born on winter solstice, the Mother and Father bed down with their newborn near the animals in the manger. Aries and Taurus falls to the western horizon before dawn.

The Winter Sun, newly arrived, but still weak with youth , relaxes sleepily for three days between December 21-24 before finaly opening his eyes and gaining strength on Christmas morn by rising one degree northward on December 25th. The promise of the Tree of Life (Christmas tree) with the orbs of the spirits and loved ones who passed on is reflected in the ornaments of the tree and garland being the snakes path on the Kabbalah. We long for life and immortality, So important is this Son/ Suns birth to restore life to the dead, that we celebrate with gifts and symbolism.



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He continually grows and gains in strength with the promise of Vernal Equinox making him plumper and stronger as the buds of spring prepare in anticipation, the green shoots in the ground await to emerge.. (What little is known, is that the resurrection of Christ belongs to the body of the Goddess with March being recognized as the birthday of Mary Magdalene. Linda Goodman mentions this Spring Birth of Easter / Istarte in her books.)

Finaly in June and July, the six month old Sun Child Horus is robust and able to sit up on Mother Isis's lap, Hebrew word "Kisse" "seat" hence the Throne of God, at Summer Solstice, of Summer Deus. The child is finaly "lifted " to the Throne. (Revelation 12) Rev. 12:5-6. "And she brought forth a 'man-child,' who was to rule all nations with a 'Rod or Iron': and her child was caught up unto God, and to His throne. "

What was once the Midnight Sun Manger where Mary and Joseph bedded down for the baby, is now a celebration of joy during mid-day with Cancer and the Sun directly overhead in the daylight sky.



qoute: In astrology the sign Cancer, along with representing the Summer solstice, also represents the Moon. Crabs are influenced by the phases of the Moon and the tides which are governed by the Moon. Cancer also represents the mother, yet to my knowledge it has not been identified with any particular mother in mythology.

Hor-Apollo observes: "They say also that the beetle lives six months underground and six above". If he does, nature surely has cast him in the role of Proserpina [who is the Roman Kore], not to say that of the human soul, figuratively. The six lower signs typify incarnate life. But the beetle has further instruction for us. He observes that the beetle deposits its ball of eggs rolled in dung in the earth for the space of twenty-eight days--a lunar cycle--during which the moon passes through its smaller round of the twelve zodiacal signs. But on the twenty-ninth day, the day of the resurrection according to lunar markings, there occurs the baptism of the beetle. The Scarabaeus then casts his ball into the water. It opens to give birth to the young beetle. This immersion and baptism leads to renewal and regeneration. So Taht (Ptah) [Khepri?], the lunar god, was always declared to be self-created, never born. [The Lost Light by Alvin Boyd Kuhn]

The disease Cancer is the result of cells escaping normal control mechanisms and growing uncontrollably as a result.

-Constellation of words.


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With the self born now a strong youth (summer also represents the sun God in his adult prime) , all that is left is to crown and celebrate the newly appointed King.



Christ entering Jerusalem and riding upon the Donkey is the sun crossing over Summer Solstice and growing stronger until it is directly in Cancer the following month . On July 29th, the Sun will be between the two donkey stars in the constellation of Cancer.



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Jesus Comes to Jerusalem as King

21 As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, 2 saying to them, “Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me. 3 If anyone says anything to you, say that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away.”

4 This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:

5 “Say to Daughter Zion,
‘See, your king comes to you,
gentle and riding on a donkey,
and on a colt, the foal of a donkey.’”

6 The disciples went and did as Jesus had instructed them. 7 They brought the donkey and the colt and placed their cloaks on them for Jesus to sit on. 8 A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9 The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted,

“Hosanna to the Son of David!”

“Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!”

“Hosanna in the highest heaven!”

Tucked within the Summer Constellation of Cancer, is the two donkey stars, Asellus Borealis is the (Northern Ass ) and Asellus Australis is the (Southern Ass)

Hence "the Sun/ Son" of God rides in a donkey...


Idol1Idol1Idol1

(none implying the newborn baby Son of Kate and William, but to the poor one who is born in poverty amongst the animals as all the legends state)
I can say that it has happened again in our modern age.That in a poor corner of the world, in a field where the shacks house those in lack and the animals graze, a mother will welcome in a child who will bear the Star of David

Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed Nomini Tuo da gloriam. And May God himself be with him unto the end of all days....



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you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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Combine Nano Bots inside your blood and Cancers cell that are growing to 100% faster, while the nanobots check that the cancer grows to a specific point the human condition or what you would like.

Think about it we get morgellons diseases this is kind of a infection to nano metals.
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When your body is hit with radiation (from radioactive contamination) there is damage to your cells. The cells that survive are "mutated" and reproduce into "cancer".

Back in the 1930s TPTB discussed the use of radiation for mutating and transforming the human race. Then we got all the atomic bombs, and now Fukushima, Hanford and all the other radioactive contamination.

Currently, cancer is an epidemic.

We also have HAARP and chemtrails.

Putting the dots together is interesting. Let's find more dots.
The "firmament", a covering over the Earth. No rain, mist rises in the morning.
People lived an average of 800 years. Firmament crashes, Big Noah flood. People now live an average of 100 years.

Annanuki, coming to "harvest the gold from Earth". Gold needed for their atmosphere (that had been ruined by nuclear war). Was the firmament gold? Did the Annanuki "crash our firmament'?

Was the firmament a solar radiation collector and emitter?
What are chemtrails? An attempt to recreate the firmament?
Then "hit it with HAARP?"

And then there are the Sun Worshippers throughout history. And the Sun Gazers today, who can look at the sun and are not in need of any food.

Sometimes I feel like we (along with all other life on Earth) are just a bunch of lab rats. My hope is that there is a "god", a "Creator"of this Universe, and that by connecting to the Creator, we obtain the ability to overcome our status as lab rats.
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you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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Philippines have the best posters on GLP.

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Of course normal people don't want that !

But think about if you are the top of the Illuminatie clan and you enslaved and killed Billions of people.

You think they want to get to the balanced side where they need to start again ?

They want the same live as the grays. Immortal and God like powers.
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Interesting to find this topic today pinned. I only just got home from OSU, and my test trial oncologist told me that I am still in remission.

I had suspected as much because my hair and nails are still growing rapidly, thus proving those tiny micro critters they created known as nanobots are still replicating and doing their job.

I'm extremely happy about this, it means I will get to meet the latest edition of my family and I'll proudly wear the title of greatgrams (maybe I'll change my avatar to Grams the Great).

Will I obtain immortality? It's a test trial, I'm the first to achieve this success, so they are watching me. But, I don't mind, if and when I tire of the use of this organic body, it will be donated to science in hopes that a better quality of life can be afforded to others. However, in respect of current trending entertainments, I'll be lucky to not get the prize of being the first official zombie!

love and hugs glp, be happy with me grouphug
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you have to be insane to want to live forever in this world
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Excellent point. We came here for experience, not to live forever. Those who believe and want immortality don't believe there are other worlds, or there is God. Those always looking for immortality have a deep rooted feeling: fear of death. They are the ones always going to doctors, or check-ups, read about new discoveries and treatments.

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