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How do you escape Plato's cave i.e. The Matrix we live in?

 
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

by finding God, the creator, Jesus.
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Jesus is NOT His Father, the Creator.
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Yes, he is. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one.
If you don't mind, it don't matter. Bitch.
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without lengthy discourse, I will tell you the only truth there is on the matter without equivocation.

when your desire is to remove the source of desire, you will then walk the path out...and the path is long and will require displined meditation...

until then, you will walk in a circle of attachment to the matrix..you will pretend to seek the exit..but in truth, you will most likely be lying to yourself ...just wanting more entertainment...

you have to stop scratching the itch..then your path begins.

did you really want the truth?
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JUST SPILL THE BEANS, ALREADY!
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He did. Read it again.
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indeed
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Yes.

This is the hard truth.
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

by finding God, the creator, Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4619492


Jesus is NOT His Father, the Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3635211


Yes, he is. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one.
 Quoting: Maèstro


You know NOTHING. Again, Jesus is not the Father Jesus was teaching about, the God of the Old Testament.
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Mandalbrot ...... I believe he discovered the matrix code, well technically Julian discovered it but Mandalbrot had the tools (computers) to prove the theory.

Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately, it is all perspective after all, this code is infinite. All of creation is infinite. Anyone who has experienced shrooms, LSD, and the like will clearly recognize this visual in a deapth that is infinitely ebbing and flowing like the energy of all creation

It can be a heaven or a hell depending on how you see it.

Check out this vid on the theory and you will see the code of the matrix clearly explained in all it's horrific and ever lasting beauty.




"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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two pills: jesus or the eternal treadmill
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If all that is perceived is the lady in the red dress, one must open their eyes further





"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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Key to Plato's cave.

Plato's cave is the mind.

The mind produces a virtual reality. Sensory organs encode electro-chemical which are decrypted by the brain. The mind then translates the expected reality.

You are not seeing these words directly. You are seeing what the mind filters from the decoded impulses sent through the nervous system. It is a very realistic virtual reality.

If the senses are cut off and the mind was fed data emulating what comes from the senses you would experience another virtual reality that could seem just as real.

In fact, this happens every night when you dream.

You can be anywhere doing anything an you accept it (most often) as reality even though it is 'just a dream'.

This being the case quite literally we live in Plato's cave.

Next key

The players.

Since it all takes place in the mind, who are the players of Plato's cave?
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Get out of GLP ... you can't, can you? You keep coming back - don't you get it ... GLP doesn't stand for godlikeproductions - it stands for GOTCHA LOSER PEOPLE - you're DOOOOOOMED - THIS IS THE CAVE laugh
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If all that is perceived is the lady in the red dress, one must open their eyes further





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Must watch.

Do it.
"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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How do you escape Plato's cave?
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By being open minded. That's all.

Plato's allegory of the cave explains that you need to be open minded to the possibility that Your reality does not necessarily align with reality, and that you must retain the capability to change your believe structure accordingly when presented with new information.

To give an example:
When you are a child you develop a worldview. You build a believe structure, Your version of reality. It starts with a foundation and you build off of that. At a certain point in your life it becomes very hard for most people to change anything fundamental.

You can picture it as a building. If you take away the foundation the building collapses. The mind is similar. When you take away the foundation of your believe structure, your believe structure collapses. If you change something fundamental, you need to review everything which is related to that foundation.

Take religious people for example. If you become religious at a young age due to geography, your upbringing and surrounding, the chances are very slim that you will change your mind at a later age, regardless of new information being presented.

Also another very obvious example is old people. The world constantly changes, but most old people are still stuck in their old and invalid believe structure, and unable to adjust accordingly.

In conclusion:
Stay flexible. Have an open mind. Retain the capability to change your believe structure accordingly when necessary.
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Ancient Sites Aligning with Orion:
- the ancient city and pyramid complex of Teo-tihua-can in central Mexico (100 BC)
- the layout of the ancient Hopi villages in the American southwest
- the Thornborough Henges. England that date from between 3500 and 2500 BC.
- Mayan hearth stones
- Great Pyramid, aligned to spiritual realm - the belt stars of Orion Nebula


Suns Of God:
- There is a formula of reincarnation within the star clusters of the Orion Nebula.
- In the Temple of Luxor De Lubicz found what appeared to be the only hieratical monument which effectively represents an architectural configuration of man, and which includes such esoteric knowledge as the location of the ductless glands, of the Hindu energy chakras, and of the Chinese acupuncture points. - According to all indigenous cultures, the common denominator that triggers
- A pole shift is the Sun and its resonant relationship with the Suns behind Our Sun. Our sun modulates the flux of high-energy
- Galactic cosmic rays entering our solar system from the Orion Nebula.


Gospel of Thomas
[link to 2011religion.alternate-healing-science-christian.ca]
3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.
5. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.


Bible:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
1 Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
2 Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
3 Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.


Book of Wisdom
[link to ebible.org]
2:18 For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him, and deliver him from the hand of his enemies.


Son Of God (Definition)
[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]
"...Yet the term by no means carries the idea of physical descent from, and essential unity with, God the Father. The Hebrew idiom conveys nothing further than a simple expression of godlikeness (see Godliness)..."
Spirituality is the opposite of religion, religion is a substitute for spirituality. Spirituality is a direct connection to Creator The Most high.

Anyone who inflicts pain on others will suffer themself from that pain.

Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil.
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There is alot of theories of life.......



As to your question,
I don't condone death or suicide but it seems it is the only way out


Also,
you can leave through a "Doorway"..........

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There is alot of theories of life.......



As to your question,
I don't condone death or suicide but it seems it is the only way out


Also,
you can leave through a "Doorway"..........

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Ultimately yes death. Paradoxically there is a problem with simply dying.

If you've lived chained in a cave all of your life, there is no possible way to escape. Even if you got out of the chains somehow, your muscles would be so atrophied you could not walk. You would not even know how to walk even if you had the muscles.

Therefore, death is not simply the answer. Learning how to walk. Flexing those muscles before being loosed from the chains.

This means leaving the matrix mentally before leaving physically. ya?
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

by finding God, the creator, Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4619492


Jesus is NOT His Father, the Creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3635211


Yes, he is. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one.
 Quoting: Maèstro


You know NOTHING. Again, Jesus is not the Father Jesus was teaching about, the God of the Old Testament.
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Not what the word of God says. Brush on the truth about the Godhead.

Jesus is God & Creator. The I AM of the OT.
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OP, freedom is to retire as soon as possible debt free. This is what the NWO is destroying. They want us working for low wages as long as possible with no middle-class only to die young and before any retirement.

retirement or owning your own business are both freedom from the system.
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There is alot of theories of life.......



As to your question,
I don't condone death or suicide but it seems it is the only way out


Also,
you can leave through a "Doorway"..........

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Ultimately yes death. Paradoxically there is a problem with simply dying.

If you've lived chained in a cave all of your life, there is no possible way to escape. Even if you got out of the chains somehow, your muscles would be so atrophied you could not walk. You would not even know how to walk even if you had the muscles.

Therefore, death is not simply the answer. Learning how to walk. Flexing those muscles before being loosed from the chains.

This means leaving the matrix mentally before leaving physically. ya?
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Peace & Love to you my brother
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Jesus is NOT His Father, the Creator.
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Yes, he is. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are one.
 Quoting: Maèstro


You know NOTHING. Again, Jesus is not the Father Jesus was teaching about, the God of the Old Testament.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3635211


Not what the word of God says. Brush on the truth about the Godhead.

Jesus is God & Creator. The I AM of the OT.
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iamwith

"Iam who I AM" is not the same as "I AM".
Nevermind. Blaspheme further.
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Key to Plato's cave.

Plato's cave is the mind.

The mind produces a virtual reality. Sensory organs encode electro-chemical which are decrypted by the brain. The mind then translates the expected reality.

You are not seeing these words directly. You are seeing what the mind filters from the decoded impulses sent through the nervous system. It is a very realistic virtual reality.

If the senses are cut off and the mind was fed data emulating what comes from the senses you would experience another virtual reality that could seem just as real.

In fact, this happens every night when you dream.

You can be anywhere doing anything an you accept it (most often) as reality even though it is 'just a dream'.

This being the case quite literally we live in Plato's cave.

Next key

The players.

Since it all takes place in the mind, who are the players of Plato's cave?
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This. Awesome!
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always just sitting in a room.

alone.

things come and thing go

people come and people go

but its always just been you

sitting in a room

alone.
The Spiral is the Answer.

secretsoftheuniverse314.blogspot.com
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That Plato dude was sure on to something because he realised we humans were actually living in a "matrix" of illusion..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

How do you escape Plato's cave i.e. The Matrix we live in?

By Opening the 3rd eye?
By waiting for Jebus?

1dunno1
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YOU NEED TO SEARCH INSIDE !!
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always just sitting in a room.

alone.

things come and thing go

people come and people go

but its always just been you

sitting in a room

alone.
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you don't have to sit
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To end the simulation you must capture the Merovingian and drag him kicking and screaming to the architechs lair where you must behead the Merovingian and kill the architech by programming a stream of 1s and 0s into his head till his eyes bulge and explode all over the floor. Than, before you can exit out the door to reality, you must bust your fist thru all 700 tv screens so no trace of the matrix exist.

Otherwise in platos play house..

You have to break your chains, jump up on stage and slash the players repeatidly till dead. Then jump off a cliff to wake up.
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Interesting......me too!

I'm serious......


Hey,read this ASAP

This was written explaining this and that
and I doubt a human wrote it

Most likely It was written by a goodhearted "foreigner" (alien)



"Do you believe that this STAGE, this 'MATRIX', this 'TONAL', this ZOO, this CIRCUS, this MAZE, this LAB, is real ? Ask yourself.
Do you believe that THEIR characters are worried about being "satisfied" ? THEY are not. THEY are pretending and waiting for the 'GLOBAL D-DAY'. THEY have access to the BACKSTAGE and to their 'Holodecks'. THEY make trips in their HELICOPTERS. THEY have their crystals activated. THEY have access to tons of BACKSTAGE information available in THEIR satellite. THEY have access to the BACKSTAGE technology and to the BACKSTAGE development of the so-called "paranormal powers". THEY don't care about themselves. Most of THEM don't believe in THEIR characters in the STAGE WORLD. So why should you ?
There is no 'ego'. The so-called 'ego' is just an illusion that comes from THEIR speculation. The so-called 'ego' exists only in THEIR mouth. THEY try to create and inculcate these 'ego'-based illusions within your brain all the time. YOU KNOW.
I suggest, in case THEY try this approach over you, that you just mentalize : "THERE IS NO SATISFACTION" and go ahead. You may add : "THERE IS NO EGO", etc.


Make a new window/tab

Type in artificial synchronicity on google and find the
first link......

Read what it says,

and

after you read the "John Lennon Quote" on that page

Then you go to youtube and type

"Deconstructing Matrix 1-5"

hopefully you have a youtube account so you can comment


Your spirit is immortal
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hmmm
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May I also add a wonderful read is both books by
Eckhart Tolle: The Power of Now and A NEW EARTH:
Awakening to Your Life's Purpose.
Ophra Winfry was a great champion for Tolle while she
was trying to free herself from the Matrix also. The
tabloids said Ophra had been captured by the ideas
Tolle presented (many are Zen, various meditation
traditions--but put into everyday language now!)
They accused Tolle of trying to be a "cult phenomenon"
but seriously this guy was homeless and just had an
epiphany that brought him clarity. These books have
been a real joy for me and I have studied Zen and done
TM meditation for years--his books are like Gensing
for the soul!


it's all about completely undoing your identification with the body and the individual reality (ego) which you call yourself as you look in a miror and you say:I am that person that I see in the mirror.
You are not a body and absolutely not the person with all his or her personality traits that you call you.
Pure zen or a course in miracles or advaita could bring you to truth and liberation so that you can leave the cave.
The books by Jed McKenna about spiritual enlightenment are a good starting point.
The disappearance of the universe by Gary Renard is also a good book.
The books by Wei Wu Wei are gold.
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TO ALL,
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6. Terrestrial Escape

(568.4) 49:6.1 All of the differing physical types and planetary series of mortals alike enjoy the ministry of Thought Adjusters, guardian angels, and the various orders of the messenger hosts of the Infinite Spirit. All alike are liberated from the bonds of flesh by the emancipation of natural death, and all alike go thence to the morontia worlds of spiritual evolution and mind progress.

(568.5) 49:6.2 From time to time, on motion of the planetary authorities or the system rulers, special resurrections of the sleeping survivors are conducted. Such resurrections occur at least every millennium of planetary time, when not all but “many of those who sleep in the dust awake.” These special resurrections are the occasion for mobilizing special groups of ascenders for specific service in the local universe plan of mortal ascension. There are both practical reasons and sentimental associations connected with these special resurrections.

(568.6) 49:6.3 Throughout the earlier ages of an inhabited world, many are called to the mansion spheres at the special and the millennial resurrections, but most survivors are repersonalized at the inauguration of a new dispensation associated with the advent of a divine Son of planetary service.

(568.7) 49:6.4 1. Mortals of the dispensational or group order of survival. With the arrival of the first Adjuster on an inhabited world the guardian seraphim also make their appearance; they are indispensable to terrestrial escape. Throughout the life-lapse period of the sleeping survivors the spiritual values and eternal realities of their newly evolved and immortal souls are held as a sacred trust by the personal or by the group guardian seraphim.

(568.8) 49:6.5 The group guardians of assignment to the sleeping survivors always function with the judgment Sons on their world advents. “He shall send his angels, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds.” With each seraphim of assignment to the repersonalization of a sleeping mortal there functions the returned Adjuster, the same immortal Father fragment that lived in him during the days in the flesh, and thus is identity restored and personality resurrected. During the sleep of their subjects these waiting Adjusters serve on Divinington; they never indwell another mortal mind in this interim.

(569.1) 49:6.6 While the older worlds of mortal existence harbor those highly developed and exquisitely spiritual types of human beings who are virtually exempt from the morontia life, the earlier ages of the animal-origin races are characterized by primitive mortals who are so immature that fusion with their Adjusters is impossible. The reawakening of these mortals is accomplished by the guardian seraphim in conjunction with an individualized portion of the immortal spirit of the Third Source and Center.

(569.2) 49:6.7 Thus are the sleeping survivors of a planetary age repersonalized in the dispensational roll calls. But with regard to the nonsalvable personalities of a realm, no immortal spirit is present to function with the group guardians of destiny, and this constitutes cessation of creature existence. While some of your records have pictured these events as taking place on the planets of mortal death, they all really occur on the mansion worlds.

(569.3) 49:6.8 2. Mortals of the individual orders of ascension. The individual progress of human beings is measured by their successive attainment and traversal (mastery) of the seven cosmic circles. These circles of mortal progression are levels of associated intellectual, social, spiritual, and cosmic-insight values. Starting out in the seventh circle, mortals strive for the first, and all who have attained the third immediately have personal guardians of destiny assigned to them. These mortals may be repersonalized in the morontia life independent of dispensational or other adjudications.

(569.4) 49:6.9 Throughout the earlier ages of an evolutionary world, few mortals go to judgment on the third day. But as the ages pass, more and more the personal guardians of destiny are assigned to the advancing mortals, and thus increasing numbers of these evolving creatures are repersonalized on the first mansion world on the third day after natural death. On such occasions the return of the Adjuster signalizes the awakening of the human soul, and this is the repersonalization of the dead just as literally as when the en masse roll is called at the end of a dispensation on the evolutionary worlds.

(569.5) 49:6.10 There are three groups of individual ascenders: The less advanced land on the initial or first mansion world. The more advanced group may take up the morontia career on any of the intermediate mansion worlds in accordance with previous planetary progression. The most advanced of these orders really begin their morontia experience on the seventh mansion world.

(569.6) 49:6.11 3. Mortals of the probationary-dependent orders of ascension. The arrival of an Adjuster constitutes identity in the eyes of the universe, and all indwelt beings are on the roll calls of justice. But temporal life on the evolutionary worlds is uncertain, and many die in youth before choosing the Paradise career. Such Adjuster-indwelt children and youths follow the parent of most advanced spiritual status, thus going to the system finaliter world (the probationary nursery) on the third day, at a special resurrection, or at the regular millennial and dispensational roll calls.

(570.1) 49:6.12 Children who die when too young to have Thought Adjusters are repersonalized on the finaliter world of the local systems concomitant with the arrival of either parent on the mansion worlds. A child acquires physical entity at mortal birth, but in the matter of survival all Adjusterless children are reckoned as still attached to their parents.

(570.2) 49:6.13 In due course Thought Adjusters come to indwell these little ones, while the seraphic ministry to both groups of the probationary-dependent orders of survival is in general similar to that of the more advanced parent or is equivalent to that of the parent in case only one survives. Those attaining the third circle, regardless of the status of their parents, are accorded personal guardians.

(570.3) 49:6.14 Similar probation nurseries are maintained on the finaliter spheres of the constellation and the universe headquarters for the Adjusterless children of the primary and secondary modified orders of ascenders.

(570.4) 49:6.15 4. Mortals of the secondary modified orders of ascension. These are the progressive human beings of the intermediate evolutionary worlds. As a rule they are not immune to natural death, but they are exempt from passing through the seven mansion worlds.

(570.5) 49:6.16 The less perfected group reawaken on the headquarters of their local system, passing by only the mansion worlds. The intermediate group go to the constellation training worlds; they pass by the entire morontia regime of the local system. Still farther on in the planetary ages of spiritual striving, many survivors awaken on the constellation headquarters and there begin the Paradise ascent.

(570.6) 49:6.17 But before any of these groups may go forward, they must journey back as instructors to the worlds they missed, gaining many experiences as teachers in those realms which they passed by as students. They all subsequently proceed to Paradise by the ordained routes of mortal progression.

(570.7) 49:6.18 5. Mortals of the primary modified order of ascension. These mortals belong to the Adjuster-fused type of evolutionary life, but they are most often representative of the final phases of human development on an evolving world. These glorified beings are exempt from passing through the portals of death; they are submitted to Son seizure; they are translated from among the living and appear immediately in the presence of the Sovereign Son on the headquarters of the local universe.

(570.8) 49:6.19 These are the mortals who fuse with their Adjusters during mortal life, and such Adjuster-fused personalities traverse space freely before being clothed with morontia forms. These fused souls go by direct Adjuster transit to the resurrection halls of the higher morontia spheres, where they receive their initial morontia investiture just as do all other mortals arriving from the evolutionary worlds.

(570.9) 49:6.20 This primary modified order of mortal ascension may apply to individuals in any of the planetary series from the lowest to the highest stages of the Adjuster-fusion worlds, but it more frequently functions on the older of these spheres after they have received the benefits of numerous sojourns of the divine Sons.

(570.10) 49:6.21 With the establishment of the planetary era of light and life, many go to the universe morontia worlds by the primary modified order of translation. Further along in the advanced stages of settled existence, when the majority of the mortals leaving a realm are embraced in this class, the planet is regarded as belonging to this series. Natural death becomes decreasingly frequent on these spheres long settled in light and life.


(571.1) 49:6.22 [Presented by a Melchizedek of the Jerusem School of Planetary Administration.]
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