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You are making the same assumption by assuming the starting date is correct as you would be in assuming the resulting end date is. This is logic in it's simplest form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140



I am sorry I thought you were smart enought to understand that when I said you can work BACKWARDS or FORWARD, using the date -3113 that if your numbers going backwards didnt end up with the astronomical year -3113 then the NASA "schills" were lying. Simple math for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29341887


The date -3113 is meaningless to this discussion unless you can offer definitive proof it is the start date of the Mayan long count, and YOU CANNOT.

Gee whiz boys. And BTW, I don't call these people shills, a shill is someone who tried to sell an idea or product while pretending not to have any interest one way or another. The proper nomenclature is "disinformation operative"
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140


Jesus man you are dumb as a box of rocks. Take the date 12-21-2012 and using astronomical years go backwards 13 b'ak'tuns. If it doesnt end up with 3113 then everyone is wrong and you are right. If it does end up with 3113 you are wrong. The mayan calendar is simple to use. 13 b'ak'tuns is 13 times 144,000 earth days. You cant change that number. To figure out when it starts go backwards. If for some reason when you go backwards you dont get the astronomical year 3113 then the start date everyone is giving you is off, and the date 12-21-2012 is wrong for the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29341887

Could be,
or maybe this theory that the Mayans did not forget to calculate the time occupied between zero and one like the Romans did, thus a unit of time is missing from the popular recent North American (Gringo) calculations, which might yield a 12.16.13 Gregorian date. Thread: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

But then as far as I can decipher from input and deduction, is that the idea that the end of the Mayan calendar meant something sudden or anything at all, appears to be an invention of people looking for dramatic things to write to promote careers. Even if 12.16.13 were the correct end date, the idea that there remain Mayan astrological interpretations is rather unfounded.

But of course individual shamans and native elders see things and share their visions with no supporting evidence what-so-ever, and that kind of information might often taken seriously. ...so the mushroom trips and the interpretations of some visiting academics decades ago an the books that they would go on to write and inspire, might be taken seriously by some too.
 
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