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I have always attempted to NOT side for or against vaccinations.

Being medically trained makes it very difficult for me to be totally objective to the many aspects that both support and criticise this type of intervention.

I do have my own views, but try to keep them to myself.

It is far too important a topic of make the mistake of offering opinion that might influence readers one way or another.

I believe that it has to be up to the individual to undertake their own due dilligence on this topic and form their individual opinions on what they believe is the best for their circumstances.

I have however felt that there has been a need to present information on the topic as it has come to hand.

This is a direct reflection of the highly controversial nature of the topic.

This next piece which does appear to be reasonably rigerously observed, is one that earns its place here.

Unfortunately, it does signal, less that good news for a H1N1 pdm9, Swine Flu vaccine that appears to presenting statistical evidence the it has significant deviations from the generally accepted standards that might be considered aceptable safe as an interventionary and protective flu vaccine.

Unfortunately it is a vaccine that has been developed to target the pdm9 strain of the Swine flu that is well established as being far more contagous to humans with that specific genetic adaption.

Increased risk of anaphylaxis following administration of 2009 AS03-adjuvanted monovalent pandemic A/H1N1 (H1N1pdm09) vaccine

Isabelle Rouleaua, Gaston De Serresa, b, , , Jean Philippe Droleta, Danuta Skowronskic, Manale Ouakkib, Eveline Tothd, Monique Landryd, Suzanne Ménarde, Rémi Gagnonaa Centre hospitalier universitaire de Québec, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
b Institut national de santé publique du Québec, Quebec, Canada
c British Columbia Centre for Disease Control, Vancouver, Canada
d Ministère de la santé et des services sociaux du Québec, Montréal, Québec, Canada
e Agence de santé et de services sociaux de l’Estrie, Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada

Anaphylaxis after trivalent influenza vaccination is typically reported at a rate of <1 per million doses. In Quebec, Canada, anaphylaxis following administration of the monovalent AS03-adjuvanted H1N1pdm09 vaccine was reported through passive surveillance at a rate of 8 per million doses administered. This was 20 times higher than the reporting rate for non-adjuvanted trivalent vaccines administered during the six previous seasons. However, adequate estimation of the incidence of anaphylaxis is hindered by wide variations in definitions and diagnosis.

Methods
Using the Brighton collaboration case definition of anaphylaxis, all cases with allergic symptoms (AS) reported to public health were reviewed to estimate the incidence of anaphylaxis following AS03-adjuvanted H1N1pdm09 vaccine.

Results
Among 752 reports of allergic symptoms, 33 were initially reported as anaphylaxis of which 20/33 (60%) met the Brighton definition (19/20 with certainty levels 1 or 2). A total of 38 additional cases with onset within 1 h of vaccination also met the Brighton definition of anaphylaxis (27 (71%) with certainty levels 1 or 2). The 58 cases meeting Brighton Level 1 or 2 criteria for anaphylaxis represent a 75% increase over the 33 passively reported and an incidence of 13 per million doses administered.

Conclusion
A substantial number of patients with early-onset allergic symptoms met the most specific levels of the Brighton case definition but were not reported as anaphylaxis. Based on this specific case definition, the incidence of anaphylaxis after AS03-adjuvanted H1N1pdm09 vaccine substantially exceeded that reported with seasonal influenza vaccines, a signal that warrants better understanding.

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[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

Regular readers here will be quite familiar with my sustained, persistant and justifiable verbal bashing of the Saudi Authorities, which to date have specifically been targeted at their dealings with their international responsibilities in matters of health.

I spotted this next article.

While this isnt directly related to health matters, it is however relevant as it is directly related to other issues concerning their international responsibilities.

Here they at least appear to be consistently maintaining their same contempt, that has been so blatantly obvious with their approach to their international health responsibilities.

These people need a damn good lesson in humility and what it means to be part of an international community.

Perhaps this is a case of...

Power corrupts...absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It might be appropriate to remind these barbarians that their oil is a finite resource, and one day it will run out.

At which time they will need to survive without the wealth, power and riches that they currently have.

One must ponder how the rest of us will view them, when at some time in the future they will inevidably find themselves needing and relying on the consideration and generosity of the rest of the same humanity that they have made such a current success of holding in such contempt.

Tomorrow is soon.

Memories are long!

Saudi Arabia: Abuses in International Spotlight
Election to Human Rights Council Should Bring Concrete Improvements
October 20, 2013


EmailMany countries have problematic records, but Saudi Arabia stands out for its extraordinarily high levels of repression and its failure to carry out its promises to the Human Rights Council. Countries should use this opportunity to send a strong, unified message that Saudi Arabia needs to make critical human rights reforms.
Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director

(Geneva) – Other countries should use the rare opportunity for scrutiny of Saudi Arabia’s human rights record on October 21, 2013, to press for concrete steps to end abuses. Country representatives gathering in Geneva for the United Nations Human Rights Council’s periodic review of Saudi Arabia should press for actions that include the immediate release of Saudi activists jailed over the past year solely for peacefully advocating reform.

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[link to www.hrw.org]

While in the topic of the Saudi Health Authorities.

Here is a complete load of BS spin for one of the biggest offenders in their MOH.

All I can say is that we need to wait and see just what damage they manage to export out of their country.

That will become evident when and if that happens, ending up in places where their spin and influence cant be exerted.

How this idiot can be making the claims he is currently making is ludicrus, and the proven history of the veracity and transperancy of their reporting of cases of Saudi SARS would never hope to offer anyone any reassurance, given their track record to date.

I wonder how many people over time will simply not return home or ever be heard of after visiting this country.

In a press conference held Mona hospital emergency
" Al - Rabiah , " declares the safety of Hajj and free from epidemic diseases and quarantine
A + A A- SPA - Mona
The Minister of Health, Dr. Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al - Rabiah safety pilgrimage this year 1434 AH and free from epidemic diseases and quarantine , and that pilgrims have thankfully health and wellness .
The health minister said : It is a result of the misgivings and actions taken by the Ministry of Health , based on the results of field investigations , and after seeing the reports of committees of the ministry of health , and illustrated by statistics and reports and indicators of safety pilgrimage this year; and non-registration of any outbreak of epidemic diseases or quarantine among the pilgrims and thankfully and gratitude be to Allah .

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[link to www.almowaten.net]

Google Translated.

Ok, so after a little reflection on what I have posted both previously and especially tonight in relation to my attitude towards the Saudi Authorities.

Some clarification on my position and why I see things the way I do might be appropriate, especially when I reflect on the varing values that some cultures will have to my expressions.

Let me say that I absolutely and unreservedly respect the sovereignty of all nations, including Saudi Arabia.

I respect that the ruling hirachy of each and every nation has the (externally) unchallenged right to rule and act as they choose to. (Within acceptable boundaries).

It is up to the people of each and every nation to either accept or reject the lifestyle that they are offered and must live with according to their authorities wishes, and I would never presume any right to comment on those principles.

I will however, make value judgements when the standards that might prevail and be considered acceptable and normal to a single nation begin to be asserted and applied to the wider community, epecially where those standards are so blatantly out of step with what would be considered as reasonable or acceptable.

When any nation signals their desire to partcipate in and with the international community, I believe that they have an outright duty and unequivical responsibility to show absolute respect and observance to what is considered acceptably normal for the wider international community.

In the case at hand, all of my criticism has had its foundations in the very real, total and complete dissregard for those finer considerations that all of us should be able to reasonably expect and have been so blatantly and totally absent from the Saudi Authorities.

And that, very specifically, I do have a major issue with.

It is directly and potentially dangerous in its impact on all of the rest of the world, and is in direct contradiction of the intent and concept of international co-operation.

Not to mention that the Saudis do not have the right to assert their standards on the international community.

Hence the unreserved and highly critical position that I choose to hold and have openly displayed here on this thread.

As I strongly believe in the logic and correctness of my stance here, I wont be feeling much like changing my tune much before the Saudi Authorities realize that how they deal with their internal issues is simply not acceptable for other cultures or their International participation in all matters outside their own sovereign borders.

Probably I will attract some criticism for my position here.

I accept that and its probably a healthy thing.

I simply remind everyone that each and everyone who might wish to express an opinion is free to contribute their thoughts and comments.

All that is expected is that they are without personal or inappropriate abuse, are expressed clearly and are relevant, I have no issue with constructive commentary.

Thanks for your patience with my (rant) indulgence, I do hope that it helps.

Cheers

arkay

There is a report of a second dire care of H7N9 being detected in China.

This bodes badly for the approaching season and in all probability signals a far more dangerous presence than last year from this mystery flu virus as the season heads towards establishing itself in the near future.

Patients Moumou, male, aged 67, farmer, now living in Xiuzhou. Incidence on October 16, Jiaxing now a hospital for treatment.

the patient was seriously ill, hospitals are in active treatment

The above translation describes the second confirmed H7N9 bird flu case (67M) in Zhejiang Province in a week. Like the earlier case (35M), the patient is in critical condition. These two cases cluster in time and space (see map) and raise concerns that the 2013/2014 flu season in northern China will lead to a dramatic increase in cases.

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The temporal and geographic clustering of the two recent H7N9 cases raises concerns that many additional H7N9 cases will be reported in the near term.

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[link to www.recombinomics.com]

We have always been quick to recognise the heric and outstanding work that medical researchers carry out around the world.

This next piece is nothing less than amazing research and hopefully one day will see the light of day for all of our benefit.

At least for now, the lab work is pointing to a significant discovery that is relatively uncomplicated and very promising, providing it translates from the lab to human application in the future.

US researchers reported yesterday [20 Oct 2013] that giving mice a flu vaccine and simultaneously treating them with rapamycin, an immune-suppressing drug, caused them to generate antibodies that were protective against other flu strains, including H5N1 and H7N9. The authors, from St Jude Children's Research Center in Memphis and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle, reported their findings in Nature Immunology [Nature Immunology (2013) Published online 20 Oct 2013, [link to www.nature.com]

The researchers infected groups of mice with an H3N2 flu strain by way of vaccination and treated them with rapamycin or a placebo for 28 days, starting the day before vaccination. When the mice were later exposed to an H5N1 virus, the rapamycin group had a much higher survival rate than the placebo group. In addition, rapamycin-treated mice had significantly higher survival when later exposed to H7N9 and H1N1 viruses, according to the report.

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[link to www.promedmail.org]

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22 Oct 2013 Influenza (59): cross-protective response

Well nothing of great consquence to report tonight.

The very noticably outstanding absence of news is notably coming from Saudi Arabia, where they seen to have stiffled all news on their Saudi SARS matters.

Their silence is highly likely to be a clamp down on information disemination rather than any genuine absence of newer detections of their disease.

About the only other matter I would like to again raise is the absence of Treyfish from any of the places where he has had presence.

This includes his much loved personal web site.

I am very worried for his welfare and again would request any information that would indicate that he has had any presence anywhere in recent times.

We share a crusader nature making us both less than welcome bloggers to many authorities around the world, and his absence and lack of presence is seen as less than normal.

Please help here.

His welfare might well be at serious risk.

Thank you all.

arkay

Weve heard much on the debate of research on H5N1 and the development of what many would classify this type of research as "weaponising" these dangerious flu viruses for research.

In the main, recent argument has been pretty much equally split with excellent arguments both for and against this type of research.

I for one am very concerned that this type of work must be restricted to a very small number of well known and credible researchers, however I do believe that this type of research is of paramount importance if we might ever hope to gain a leading position in the fight to protect ourselves from the inevidible and certain knowledge that these bugs are simply better at what they do than we are at defending ourselves against them.

Its a fight we can never win without serious dedication and expert intervention and learning.

The simple truth is they reproduce at an extremely rapid rate and as a consequence of this function, they inevidibly vary themselves rapidly, and in that process some mutate just slightly, but enough to adapt to being more threatening to us, and benificially for them to find a source of better hosts (humans) for them to survive and multiply.

This is simply the most basic of survival mechanisms which every living organism carries as a member of its species, and common to all.

This next peice talks about a select handful of researchers whom I would be first in line to raise my hand for, to work on this absolutely essential research.

They can never have sufficient recognition, resources or funding for their leading edge and constantly groundbreaking endevours.

If anyone ever deserved a Nobel Prize for their works in the specialities these two named and highlighted below, researchers should have been recognised years ago for their contributions to humanity.

Dutch scientists hidden away in a top-security laboratory are seeking to create mutant flu viruses, dangerous work designed to prepare the world for a lethal pandemic by beating nature to it. The idea of engineering viral pathogens to be more deadly than they are already has generated huge controversy, amid fears that such viruses could leak out or fall into the wrong hands. But with China braced for scores more cases of a deadly new strain of H7N9 bird flu, Ron Fouchier and Ab Osterhaus say the benefits of this gene mutation research far outweigh the risks. The experiments, designed to explore H7N9's potential to develop drug resistance and find which genetic modifications might enhance its ability to spread, could offer the know-how to halt a lethal flu pandemic, they say. That could be with well-timed new vaccines or other therapies tuned to the pandemic strain's genes.

"We're bracing for what's going to happen next. If H7N9 becomes easily transmissible between humans, yes, the case fatality ratio may go down a little from where it is now, but we'd still be talking about millions of people dying," says Osterhaus, the head of a highly bio-secure laboratory in the Netherlands which will lead some of the H7N9 mutation work. "This is a critical question -- what does this virus really need to become transmissible? It is of extreme importance to being able to understand what's going on." As things stand, 45 of the 136 people known to have contracted H7N9 bird flu in China and Taiwan have died -- giving a case fatality rate of around 30 per cent.

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[link to www.promedmail.org]

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24 Oct 2013 Avian influenza, human (127): Netherlands, H7N9 research intention

This is very bad news.

It is probably the first case of Saudi SARS to be suspected and having developed after the return of a religous pilgrim visiting Saudi Arabia this year to observe the annual Hajj.

Should this case prove to be positive then we will know for certain that all the Saudi spin was nothing more than convenient lies and deception which would be consistant with their very well established modus operandi.

Its no wonder that the entire world places absolutely no trust in anything that the Saudis might actually release in terms of any type of information regarding matters of international health concerns.

We should also expect more, if this case was indeed contracted Saudi SARS while a visitor in Mecca.

Our worst fears might have just been announced.

A new probable cases of coronavirus infection has been reported. S'il est confirmé, ce sera le 3ème patient français contaminé. If confirmed, this will be the third French patient infected.
ANAT GIVON/AP/SIPA ANAT Givon / AP / SIPA Sur le même thème On the same theme « Coronavirus : les Français bravent les risques pour aller à la Mecque » "Coronavirus: the French brave risks to go to Mecca"
« Coronavirus: un traitement efficace testé chez le singe » "Coronavirus: effective treatment tested in monkeys'
« Coronavirus : 10 nouveaux cas en une semaine » "Coronavirus: 10 new cases in a week" Est-on face au premier cas de pèlerin français contaminé par le coronavirus lors du pèlerinage à la Mecque (Arabie saoudite) ? Are we facing the first case of French pilgrim infected with coronavirus during the pilgrimage in Mecca (Saudi Arabia)? Difficile pour le moment de répondre à cette question, mais le ministère de la Santé annonce ce mardi dans un communiqué qu'un nouveau cas probable d'infection au coronavirus (MERS-CoV) a été signalé le 28 octobre à l'Institut de Veille Sanitaire (InVS). Difficult at the moment to answer this question, but the Ministry of Health announced Tuesday in a statement that a new probable cases of infection with coronavirus (MERS-CoV) was reported on October 28 at the Institut de Veille health (VS).

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[link to pourquoi-docteur.nouvelobs.com]

Next is a recent report from the World Health Organization advising of the latest accounts from Saudi Arabia that have been officially reported on new cases of Saudi SARS.

It is not clear whether these cases have been held in secret prior to this release or if indeed we have already heard of them previously.

Its very interrsting to note that further into this report the World Health Organization chooses to make note of the necessity of "member states" to observe their responsibilities in reporting these matters.

Strange, might be a good word to describe his quotation when the Wordld Health Organization was initially so complicit with the Saudi Health Authorities when Saudi SARS was first identified.

So much so that even today other researchers are constntly noting the lack of completeness of relevant information that would and will asist so meaningfully in the search for both the reservour and vector for Saudi SARA and which after more than a year remain a mystery.

In my opinion the World Health Organization has also lost a significant level of credibility tith their complicity with the Saudi Health Authorities.

Anything that they might choose to release for public consumption should be very carefully cross-checked before accepting what they offer us.

Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) - update
Disease outbreak news

24 October 2013 - WHO has been informed of two laboratory-confirmed cases of Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) infection in Saudi Arabia on 18 and 19 October 2013, and three laboratory-confirmed cases on 18 September 2013.

Of the five laboratory-confirmed cases, two died. The ages of the five patients range from 35 to 83 years old; four men and one woman; two from Medinah and three Riyadh.

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[link to www.who.int]

In even more confusing news regarding Saudi SARS we have this next account of more cases being identified and according to this report, yet to be reported to the World Health Organization, as usual!

MERS update: 3 more Saudi cases, 1 in Qatar
Filed Under: MERS-CoVRobert Roos | News Editor | CIDRAP News | Oct 28, 2013

The case in Qatar involves a 23-year-old male "expatriate" who is asymptomatic.

The case in Qatar involves a 23-year-old male "expatriate" who is asymptomatic. Photo is of Doha, Qatar.Three more Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) cases, apparently including a fatal one, were reported in Saudi Arabia over the weekend, while Qatar reported an asymptomatic case in a foreigner in the country, according to government statements and news reports.

A machine-translated statement from the Saudi Ministry of Health (MOH), apparently issued on Oct 26, said the new cases all occurred in the Eastern province. The cases involve:

•An 83-year-old citizen who had contact with a confirmed case-patient, had chronic illnesses, and was in an intensive care unit (ICU)
•A 54-year-old resident healthcare worker with chronic illnesses who was in stable condition in an ICU
•A 49-year-old citizen, also in stable condition in an ICU

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The new cases have not yet been confirmed by the World Health Organization (WHO). The WHO's MERS-CoV tally remains at 144 cases with 62 deaths.

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[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]

A neighbouring country to Saudi Arabia, is now reporting its first confirmed case of Saud SARS.

Unfortunately this report does not give any indication of any recent travel, and fortunately this first case appears not to be life threatening.

Given the timing of this case and the recent Hajj in nearby Saudi Arabia, the possibility of a link between the two does seem to be a natural suspicion.

Hopefully some more relevant and helpful information will become available soon.

The discovery of the first case b ' Corona ' in Oman
Wrote - Khaled infection : the Ministry of Health announced yesterday the discovery of the first case of infected Coruna province 's internal review of the injured to a health center , Nizwa .
Following the laboratory diagnosis of his injury was confirmed with the virus. Was transferred directly to the Nizwa Hospital Reference .
Infected and return the situation to one of the sons of Nizwa injured after what felt short of breath as pulmonary informed sources from the Ministry of Health.

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[link to main.omandaily.om]

Google Translated.

Time for an update and the news is not good.

The above reported first case in Oman has been positively confirmed to be Saudi SARS.

While travel outside Oman is a cloudy matter, that topic is worrysome.

If indeed this case did not travel ouside his country then given the time which coincided with religous festivals in Saudi Arabia and the fact that the vector for this disease remains unknown them one very worrysome possibility comes to the fore.

It could be that this victim was exposed to someone else who may have travelled to Saudi Arabia on their pilgrimage.

We do know that to at least to some extent Saudi SARS is H2H transmissible, and with minor reassortment, it could rapidly change to a highly virulent and contagous disease.

Though we will probably never know for certain, especially in light of the scant information that the Saudis condescend to release on this matter, the possibility again raises the deadly threat for this disease to be exported over wider areas to virtually anywhere on the globe.

In the next posts there is clear evidence of international spread of Saudi SARS that has been directly linked to the Hajj pilgrims.

This was always expected, and now for the first time in the history of Saudi SARS, direct international spread across vast distances has been reported.

Oman Confirms First MERS Case
Recombinomics Commentary 23:55
November 1, 2013

The patient in Oman is a 68-year-old man from Al Dahkliya region who became ill on 26 October 2013 and was hospitalized on 28 October 2013. Preliminary epidemiological investigations revealed that he did not recently travel outside the country.

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[link to www.recombinomics.com]

Here is the report of a Spanish woman who travelled to Saudi Arabia to attend the Hajj and who is confirmed as having contracted Saudi SARS while in Saudi Arabia before returning back home to Spain.

This is the very first case of internation spread of the disease.

The fact that this poor soul attended hospital while still in Saudi Arabia, her diagnosis only went as far as to admit to pneumonia, a symptom of Saudi SARS, but when she was sufficiently well enough for travel she was permitted to do so, thus also endangering all her travelling companions on that flight, along with all the ongoing implications that flow on from that event.

The travellers who no doubt dispersed through their onwards travel to far wider areas of the globe and potentially carrying this disease to places where it has never been previously seen.

This is absolutely abominal, totally inexcuable and reckless for the Saudi Health Authorities to have allowed to happen much less play down the situation to the extent that they have.

About all that can be said on that matter is at least they are being consistant with their derriliction and contempt towards all matters that surround Saudi SARS.

The world moves closer now to facing a worldwide deadly menace, that has no medical intervention to fight against it.

Saudi Arabian authorities cannot be sufficiently condemed enough for their abominal handling of this matter.

Spain Confirms MERS In Hajj Pilgrim
Recombinomics Commentary 22:45
November 6, 2013

Health officials in Spain have detected a case of MERS in a woman who recently returned to the country after attending last month’s Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia.

The above comments confirm that the MERS case in Spain (see map) was infected while on a Hajj pilgrimage, as suggested by statements in the Spain Ministry of Health press release, which noted that she (61F) flew to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) on October 1 and returned on November 1. Shortly thereafter MERS was confirmed.

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However, media reports noted that she had been hospitalized in KSA on October 15 and diagnosed as having pneumonia. However, the etiological agent was not identified. Disease onset on or about October 15 raises the strong possibility that she contracted MERS somewhere along the Hajj route but KSA failed to identify MERS in the above case or the source of her infection.

Moreover, travel after the KSA hospitalization increased the potential for transmission to other travelers and significant spread.

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The confirmation of a Hajj pilgrim in Spain raises serious surveillance and transparency concerns.

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[link to www.recombinomics.com]

Here is more commentary on the export of Saudi SARS linked to the Hajj, and the serious problems that the world is being presented with soley because of Saudi Arabia's lack of transarency.

MERS In Hajj Pilgrim Raises Transparency Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 23:30
November 6, 2013

According to the director explained how the Coordinating Center and Emergency Health Alerts, Fernando Simón, it is "a woman of 61 years who was in Saudi Arabia between October 2 and November 1" and "initiated a respiratory symptoms with fever and cough on 15 October. "

After that, "the 28 and October 20 began a process in which he was diagnosed with pneumonia in a hospital in Saudi Arabia." Later, Simon explained that she "traveled back to Spain on November 1 and was diagnosed back in Puerta de Hierro".

The above translation provides additional information on the Hajj pilgrim (61F) who was MERS confirmed in Spain (see map). She developed symptoms on October 15, during the Hajj. Although the hospital in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) diagnosed pneumonia, they failed to identify the etiological agent, which was done is Spain.

Consequently, the pilgrim returned to Spain, leading to significant exposure of other passengers as well as contacts in Spain, including health care workers.

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The current confirmed case in Spain raises concerns that MERS was widely dispersed from KSA and largely missed by receiving countries.

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[link to www.recombinomics.com]

This next commentary indicates that the Spanish Saudi SARS case was indeed quite obviously ill when she was permitted to return home after her pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.

She required and was administered oxygen while in transit by air, so it follows that all of the other passengers were indeed heavily exposed to Saudi SARS while all sharing the same confined space in their plane.

It needs to be said that this is the stuff that real life horror stories grow from.

If the world begins to find cases and experience any deaths from Saudi SARS anywhere outside the Arabian Peninsular, then each and every one of those deaths is directly attributable to the Saudi Arabian Authorities.

That blood will forever be on their hands.

There never has and never was any excuse for them either not knowing or having all the expert assistance and resources available to then to manage this disease to better outcomes.

MERS Hajj Medina Mecca Jeddah Madrid Journey
Recombinomics Commentary 19:30
November 7, 2013

Her symptoms began Oct 15 with cough and fever, and she was seen at a hospital emergency department of a Mecca hospital on Oct 28 and 29, where health workers diagnosed her as having pneumonia, based on chest x-ray findings.

According to the ECDC, the patient was sick during the flight and needed oxygen treatment while she was aboard.

The health ministry said she was in Medina from Oct 2 through Oct 10 and in Mecca from Oct 11 through Nov 1.

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The recent MERS case was traveling and attending the Hajj in KSA while symptomatic and flew from Jeddah (see map) to Madrid after she was diagnosed with pneumonia in Mecca.

This extensive travel strongly suggest the number of MERS infections in Hajj pilgrims is high, KSA detection / reporting failures notwithstanding.

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[link to www.recombinomics.com]

After uploading todays posts I was given to do a little reflection on what has become quite evident to me as Ive traveled this road via this thread.

I struck me that a lot of far less than pleasent things that surround the subject of threat to humanity by microbes are only a small part of a much wider issue that humanity has made of itself in more modern times.

All this agenda that has surfaced from the Saudis with Saudi SARS, the lack of co-operation with the WHO and equally their complicity with that topic are just the tip of the problematic social behavours that we have evolved.

Where we are today, at least from my personal viewpoint, is in a place that has become over-ridden with selfish and very shortsighted concern for only the things that are of direct impact on us.

There seems to be an ever deminishing appreciation of the impact that our actions have on others, and that then seems to lead a type of dissociation from responsibility for many things that we do individually affect or influence.

That might serve as being ok for insignificant matters, but to see that trait carried over to greater and far wider concerns is where I see the very dangerous breakdowns occuring.

There is far too much emphasis placed on the here and now, the immediate personally affected outcomes, and far too little consideration to the concept that we, even as individuals do have an affect on others, especially when we have administrative responsibilities that directly affect other lives.

The things we do for the just now, do carry over into the longer term picture and in one way or another we all rely on others for our well being.

That doesent seem to be much of a consideration to people today.

To take an example of what Im attempting to explain, let me use the very appropriate case of the Saudi Authorities in this ongoing and still evolving situation with Saudi SARS that they have found themselves in.

Going back to the days before when Henry Ford came along, the Saudis really didnt have much, either for themselves or the greater world in general.

Then along comes a demand for oil, which they discover they have an abundance of.

They become both important to the world and in the process they earn riches beyond their wildest dreams.

New money!

There are those who will understand the difference between "new money and "old money".

Those with new money really dont posses a mature and sophisticated appreciation for their wealth and the many things that flow from having wealth.

That only comes after several generations, and over those time expances the ones who have been born into "old money" are bought up to appreciate the effort that it has taken to both gain that wealth and also to keep and nurture it, and to protect it.

They will always understand just how temporary their situation might be and the influences that affect their wealth and themselves.

In the case of the Saudi "new money", it is my belief that they are simply still in that immature stage of wealth growth.

They appear to fail to realize that their wealth is derived from a finite source, either from exhaustion or from new technology.

Either of these probabilities will see an end to their heady but very short lived period of unimaginable cash flows.

And to a very high degree I see that the way they elevate themselves in so many ways is based on a poorly founded belief that their brief luck will have an infinite life, which is patently off the mark over a longer time frame.

However for the present they do enjoy the massive financial benefits their good fortune has permitted them.

Where they are making a very serious missjudgement is with their missunderstanding that with all that wealth comes unimaginable power, and for the present that connection can be made to some extent...BUT

What happens to them when their cash flow dries up?

Their power and perceived international influence blows away with the last dust storm too.

That is the time when they will realize, too late, that their arrogant and missplaced sense of independance and power will dissintergrate into very little and they will again find themselves with little to offer the rest of the world and having indulged themselves in elitist isolation, the rest of the world may well turn its collective backs to them and leave them wanting when the inevitible time arrives where they become desperate for outside intervention and assistance.

I believe that these overal influences are what has been underlying in general terms with the Saudis, specificially with Saudi SARS, but can also be clearly related and compared with what they would claim is their way of doing things.

Their "new money" attitudes are nowhere nearly sufficiently developed for them to yet appreciate the shaky ground they place themselves in nor the very tentative lifespan that their only "egg in the basket", offers them.

I know that my critical commentary on the Saudi situation on this thread has had a severe enough edge on it.

It is partly anger, because no-one can be THAT stupid, either individually nor from within their culture, no matter what level of insulation and isolation you place yourself in.

But my emotions are strongly also of frustration, with a very significant motivation to protect, educate and promote and fight for and demand a better way of life for all people on this planet, equally and beneficially.

No agendas, no egos, no politics, no excuses.

Just a total commitment to the higher ethics that we all should have as our primary goals for both our individual selves but closely followed by the the same values and aspirations for the rest of humanity.

Those are the things that motivate me, I cannot nor will I ever apolagise for that.

I hope that this diatribe has helped readers to better understand me and why they read what they do and that I am better understood, for the position that I come from.

Im happy to hear any constructive commentary from as many who might wish to offer same comment on what Ive written here.

arkay

Very well stated Arkay!


Sometimes a little of this is needed

Thank you MzTreeChick.

Its a bit of a rant but I thought appropriate given the complex issues at hand and that less frequent readers might mistake about my opinions and commentary.

As usual you continue to be the rock.

The solid contributor and supporer that I wish more would adopt as your committed example has shown by your sincere dedication to the same ideals and passions that we obviously share.

Cheers...

arkay.

These just for you.

Well it wont come as any surprise for us to learn that the surveylance program that the Saudis apparently had in place to monitor Hajj pilgrims, completely failed to detect even one case of Saud SARS.

No surprises there as they have proven to a significant extent that they cannot be trusted in their international duties with regard health matters.

One must ponder into what other areas of concern this trend of extreme lying goes where they are expected to be transparent.

This next article now reveals where we have not just one or two cases of Saudi SARS but so far, eight cases that the saudis have so willingly exported to several different regions where Saudi SARS was never seen previously and would have never reached without the willing and willful assistance from the incompetent Saudi Health Officials.

Naturally, we all now understand that their actual comprehension of the simple rules associated with these international health matters and the concept of infection control have always been beyond the comprehension of such simpletons, whose reading and comprehension skills are limited to the rear contents of a corn flakes packet.


MERS In Two Kuwait Travelers Raises Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 23:30
November 13, 2013

Ministry of Health announced the Kuwaiti state registration of infecting a second "Corona" to a Kuwaiti citizen reach the 52-year-old newly feet of travel abroad and said his health is now reassuring.

The above translation describes the second confirmed MERS case (52 years old), which follows the announcement this morning of the first case (47M) who is in critical condition in Adan (see map). Media reports noted that the first case had traveled in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA), while the above case recently returned from “travel abroad”. These are the first two reported confirmed cases in Kuwait, but they are not related. The reporting of two cases who were independently infected and reported after return from travel abroad indicates each are linked directly or indirectly to the end of the Hajj.

These two cases follow reports of the first case (68M) reported in Oman (see map). Media reports indicate that case had not traveled, but two relatives had just returned from a Hajj pilgrimage. Moreover, United Arab Emirates (UAE) reported a confirmed case (75M) in another Omani who had recently traveled to Abu Dabi. His prior travel history was unclear, but the reporting of MERS in unrelated Omani’s shortly after the end of Hajj, raises concerns that these cases were linked directly or indirectly to the Hajj, through contact with Hajj attendees, travelers infected by Hajj attendees, or cases identified due to enhanced surveillance due to movement of Hajj pilgrims.

Break...

Thus, the above 8 confirmed cases in Spain, Qatar, KSA, UAE, Oman, and Kuwait, which developed symptoms during or shortly after the end of the Hajj raises serious questions about the KSA Hajj surveillance which failed to confirm MERS in any pilgrim performing Umrah during Ramadan or traveling to Mecca and Medina for the Hajj.

Link here...

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

There has been another case of H5N1 avian influenza that has been proven to be fatal in West Java.

Sadly too many delays and a miss-diagnosis undoubtedly contributed to this unfortunate fatality.

Date: Fri 15 Nov 2013
Source: Avian Flu Diary (translation from Gert van der Hoek, Flutrackers; original report [in Indonesian] from Indonesian Ministry of Health) [edited]
[link to afludiary.blogspot.ca]


Indonesia: Ministry of Health reports H5N1 fatality
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The Ministry of Health (via the Directorate General of Disease Control and Environmental Health) announced a new case of bird flu [avian influenza H5N1 virus infection] has been confirmed by the Center for Biomedical and Healthcare Technology Association, Balitbangkes. The case is a 31-year-old female resident of East Bekasi, West Java Province with symptoms of fever and nausea commencing on 1 Nov 2013. On 3 Nov 2013 the patient attended a private outpatient clinic and was advised to check into a laboratory within 3 days if there was no change in her condition. When there was no improvement by 5 Nov 2013, the patient then went to a private hospital outpatient clinic with laboratory facilities and was diagnosed with typhoid fever. On 6 Nov 2013 the patient went to a different private hospital emergency department complaining of fever, nausea, and vomiting and was treated at that hospital. On 8 Nov 2013 the patient's condition worsened with development of coughing and shortness of breath. On 11 Nov 2013 at around 2:00 in the morning, [the patient died following transfer] to avian influenza referral hospital.

Link here...

[link to www.promedmail.org]

Under the heading in the left menu...

16 Nov 2013 Avian influenza, human (140): Indonesia (WJ) H5N1, fatal

Just wanted to share my experiences with all of you, as it might well save your life and the lives of loved ones.

We know that the flu is due to a virus, antibiotics do not work on viruses. Dengue Fever is a virus with flu like symptoms on steroids.

A friend of my wife and myself recently got dengue. We are familiar with the symptoms as dengue is common here in Thailand, with my wife and her niece just recently having had it .spending over a week in the hospital.

I had read about a cure for dengue and after doing 4 days of intense research on it decided to get some to have on hand.

Upon getting dengue my wife friend and I both took the remedy and within two and one half hours eighty percent of the symptoms were gone and were totally gone by the next morning, about 12 hours later.

The cure I'm referring to is MMS. Sodium chlorite which when mixed with and acid such as citric acid creates chlorine dioxide, a powerful disinfectant used in water treatment and sterilizing hospital environments. With the present situation we find ourselves in, all of the potential outbreaks of various flu's and Sars, I think everyone should have access and know about this wonderful remedy. Back to regularly scheduled programming now.

Thank you so much Talkstory for your invaluable and caring post.

I respect what you have done here immensly, and the fact that you have acknowledged our primary subject also goes to you credit.

I have complete respect for the Thai people, so genteel and aware of all things decent, so sensitive to other people and their perspectives that you have so clearly demonstrated with you post.

I take my hat off to you.

If I might be so bold as to make a suggestion.

Clearly you have a very important message here for people that relates to Dengue Fever, which you acknowledge isnt our primary focus on this thread.

It is however an immensly important topic and one that does affect so many and unfortunately in a very bad way.

The welfare of human life is common to our passions and you already demonstrate your commitment in this.

I am concerned that your message might, be to a point be lost here, simply because of our focus here and the demographic that reads this thread.

It might be missed by a wider audience that would genuinely benefit and appreciate far more information that you have access to and will be of immense help to other people.

So, if I can encourage you to start your own thread specificially dedicated to presenting specific information on what you are already able to speak with authoity on, I am sure you will have readers who will be immensly greatful for your efforts.

If you like, I am also prepared to support such an effort with a PIN, I have sufficient karmas to do this, and will be only too pleased to offer you all the help and support so that you have a decent chance to have your message seen and hopefully gain sufficient credibility to be of geniune help to others who will appreciate it and benefit from it.

Please feel free to PM me anytime, and I will offer all the help that I can for you.

I have already added you as a "friend", if that is helpful for you as well.

cheers

arkay

Good News.

Well maybe...

Regular readers will be abundantly aware of my concerns for a fellow blogger and contributor here known as Treyfish.

He has been silent for quite an extended time, both here but far more importantly on his own very much loved web blog site.

Tonight I notice that apparently (he) has updated his web site.

That on the surface could indicate that he is in fact OK.

However, my concerns for his welfare have not been disspelled.

So far, he has not answered my email to his private email address, nor can, as yet I see that he has posted to other web sites that he has also had a presence in.

That to me still leaves a very considerable level of concern for his welfare.

We both share a position where we expose ourselves to the potential risks that come with our approach to challenging some very powerful forces and neither of us apolagise for the positions that we take.

Someone has to be prepared to call a spade a spade and with that type of open and sometimes hostile criticism, we both expose ourselves to the risks that are inherent with that.

Clearly we are prepared to fly the flag against some authorities who would love to have our silence and who might actually act to gain silence from us.

This has been my great concern for Treyfish in recen times, and continues to be.

Knowing Treyfish, and having observed the silence from his passion has deeply worried and concerned me.

To see his web site finally become active again does give me some hope that he has simply suffered a type of blogger burnout, but just seeing some thin posts doesent yet give me much consolation.

I will continue to be cautious for his welfare until I do recieve a personal response from him and I also see him again haunting his favorite places, in the mean time, I am encouraged that there has been some activity but I am also aware that hacking his site is a simple enough thing to do especially when there is a need to show he is ok.

Hopefully things will soon pan out and my missgivings will be for little.

In the mean time I am duty bound to be wary for his welfare and part of that process is to publicly shed light on to the possibilities.

I know that all this sounds somewhat paranoid, but please understand that in the bigger picture, life can be and is often full of these types of intrigues.

We more or less temp it on behalf of those (our readers)who deserve the truth, and we are aware of the consequences of what we do can bring to us, while we do our best to offer the truth.

From my own perspective I have NO illusions that I am not already well known to people who consider me an undesirable with all the implications that means to my welfare.

There are countries that I cannot travel to, and will never be able to.

I am very careful not to step too far over the line or go too far as to evoke a physical response.

I also have several "friends" who watch my back and if I ever go quiet, news of those reasons will surface.

If readers consider that Im just a paranoid fool, I am jealous of the insulated and sheltered life they are so privaledged to be able to live.

I honestly dont see myself as having that luxury.

arkay

Thanks for the update Arkay .... Good to see Treyfish is still around.

Stay safe mate

Hong Kong confirms first human case of bird flu since 2003


Hong Kong is on public-health alert after the city confirmed its first human case of the deadly H7N9 bird flu, with an Indonesian domestic worker hospitalized in critical condition.

The government said late Monday the 36-year-old woman had visited the Chinese city of Shenzhen last month, and had contact with poultry there. She fell ill on Nov. 21 and was hospitalized six days later.

[link to online.wsj.com]

good to see you keeping the thread going arakay wishing you all the best

Thank you.

Its good that youve safely returned back to the UK after your travels.

Hope the cold isnt too harsh on you.

it was pretty cold were i was so no problems in the uk
hope you have a good christmas Arkay