What do Atheists and non-believers want GOD to do, so they will believe?

It doesn't matter what god you are crying out to, the whole thing is a fabricated myth!!!! Besides, the only dieties who have been so kind as to reveal themselves to me were Manannan Mac Lir, Anubis and Hokomok. The first 2 are underworld dieties, both carrying the dead to the otherworld, according to myths...the 3rd is a native american diety known as the god of death, rot and decay. He revealed himself to me to teach me a lesson. I was living in an apartment complex, that had been built on what was formerly a native american burial ground, and to speak his name is a curse, according to natives. As for worshipping any of them, forget it. That was never a requirement, nor was it ever even requested. I respect all 3 of them for whatever they may be, particularly Manannan, as he has helped me in my quest for understanding my past, where I came from and why I'm here. He is a spirit guide to me. Believe what you want, but those of us who seek truth, will find it, while you will remain trapped within a fairytale, unless you ever make the choice to wake up.

It doesn't matter what anyone believes. It is what you did with your life that matters.

SO WHY DID GOD LET EVIL PREVAIL TO BEGIN WITH?

You won't know this answer, unless you study his word, understand the Nature of who he is, and ask him to reveal himself to you in your heart....

GOD...WAY WAY BACK... When the Divine Realm the Supernatural World with all of it's Created Divine Angels were in the *Presence* of GOD... They had everything they could of wanted being in *Perfect Essence* with their Creator....

GOD being Spirit of *Free Will* gave that first FREE WILL to the Angelic Beings....You know the story...Lucifer the most beloved Angel took his free will and used it for the nature of:
Envy, Jealousy and Rebellion..

Now as Lucifer is possessing all these *Natures* he is bringing his cause by the way he feels to influence other's....HOW?
By telling them the FIRST LIES about GOD... The Angels have never heard a *Lie* before, so they started to believe what he said.....Now when 1/3 of these creatures had started to act and do what Lucifer wanted them to..WHAT HAPPENED? they are causing the DIVINE REALM to become in it's *Essence CHAOTIC*

Now GOD warned them, they did not listen...So GOD in front of the entire Divine Kingdom could of *OBLITERATED* Satan right on sight..

But what would that really of accomplished????

Well for one thing, It would of put FEAR in everyone of the Angels in the Divine Realm, they would no longer want to serve GOD with a Free Will nature, they would serve him out of FEAR and many would of thought *Lucifer was right about GOD*

Instead GOD showed them what Lies, Rebellion, Jealousy, Hate Envy, vanity brings to a Free Will Nature Creation..

Our lessons are no different here on earth....

so basically we all must continue to pay the price, even innocent babies, for what some eveil people did thousands of years ago? yeah, that sounds fair and just, and merciful and loving.......

OP, why are you trying so hard? You obviously will never understand those of us who have no faith, and we will likely never understand people who do, so why bother fighting about it? Let your all powerful, wonderful creator deal with it.

First I would want him to apologize at least a thousand times for all the misery and murder 'he' created.

Then I would like to see him turn himself around completely and stop ordering human beings to murder each other, explain why he didn't have the decency to tell us about all of his creation such as germs which we did not know even existed through most of our history, yet they have the power to sicken and kill us.

Change his 'design' so that innocent babies are not created by two people who just want to have sex and stop telling them to procreate.

Change his system whereby every living creature must live in constant fear for its life because some other creature must kill and devour it in order to survive.

This could go on and on and I know you will only accuse me of wanting this god to rule by my human standards and you are correct because they are so vastly superior morally to his standards.

He should change himself to a god who is worthy of human worship.

Because when something brings you joy, and peace, you want others to feel the same joy and peace.

How ex-muslim Nabeel found Jesus is Lord,Trinity is True - (Part 1/2)

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Or maybe you need to stop casting judgment where you have no knowledge or understanding. I grew up with christianity. I grew up reading the bible, singing the gay songs, going to church and even attended a christian school. Guess what...at every opportunity, my brain said THINK, so I did, and again and again made the argument against god, because it was the sensible thing to do. My teachers couldn't answer my questions, bc mine were the sort that can only be answered by those who seek truth over dogma and fairy tales. I am angry at a religion which has persecuted countless people, including my own anscestors from both sides of the atlantic. I am angry at a religion that forced me, as a small impressionable child, to believe utter lies. I am angry at bible thumping christians still to this day trying to ram these same lies down my throat, talking of their loving and all-powerful god, who just so happens to demand worship or pay the ultimate price of eternal damnation. Non-religious people have much better arguments against god, than dellusional religious fanatics have in favour of their god of choice. Christians happen to be at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to intellectual capacity.

In truth, the anger I speak of is an anger that resides in the past where it belongs. It's not worth my effort or energy to feel anger for what I have already conquered. I am full-filled, happy and content, as well as secure, in my spirituality. I have no need for religion. If you really knew me, my true self, you would understand, and you would cease trying to ram this crap down my throat. Unfortunately, you are an ignorant fool who is afraid of death. I am not afraid of death. I am only afraid of what pain may exist in leaving this body. I only fear the physical suffering that eventually leads to death, such as cancer. That is because I had to watch a person very dear to me suffer cancer before dying. Death is not so bad, and what comes after is not so bad, especially if you have done your best in life to be a decent being and have a strong enough character to face any future challenges. Religion does not give a person such courage and understanding. It is a trap, and will prevent a person from achieving their full potential in this or future lives.

What can you do, if a person opens the door to let the essence of evil and sickness into their *Being*

Kill them?

or let them find a way out of that sick essence?

Your assessment is totally invalid. If it brought you joy and peace, you wouldn't need to share it with others unless it came up naturally in an open discussion. I have found joy and peace, but I'm not oppressing others with what I have found. I may from time to time explain tiny bits of what I have found, but it is mine, and no one elses. Everyone has to find their own peace, their own reality, their own truth. Spirituality is a lonely journey. There are no congregations who can go it with you. It is a personal, individual path, based on one's life experiences and choices. A person who has found peace, such as my grandfather and I, will often have little to nothing to say, because that is the nature of peace. You walk in the bright sun on a beautiful day, and there are no words which could convey the peace one feels in that moment. That is peace. That is joy. Being one with nature, being in tune and connected with all life, plants animals, etc. It is beyond tangible.

Well just because you disagree doesn't mean the assesment is invalid.

When I see a good movie I recommend it to others...doesn't mean they will like it, but I liked it enough to recommend it.

Same concept.

If God and Jesus make me happy then why would I not recommend it to others...

Why did your all powerful god let that happen in the first place?

He can do the same thing he did for Moses...
Moses shielded himself between the rocks so the Lord's "Glory" wouldn't kill him, and then the "Lord" flew his "Glory" out into the sky,to prove to the millions following Moses, that he was the REAL and TRUE "God." It seems the other "Gods" there at the time, didn't have their spacecraft with them.

Yeah, that would work.

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Pure, unadulterated ignorance is the path you speak of. Ignorance is bliss. Fucking good times, man. I'm happy for you.

Calling something god is equivallent to calling it religion. Before I was indoctrinated, as a small child, I already understood all that I needed to understand about the spiritual world. I never needed religion. I never needed a god. Just me being one with nature, as I was then and have always been. As a teenager, I didn't even realize that I had already found what I was looking for, because of the onslaught of information which leaves one confused and thinking that what they know is not what they need to know. I never had to learn how to meditate, bc I have been doing it for as long as I have conscious memory (at least 2 or 3 yrs old), but I didn't know that what I had been doing was what others call meditation. Yoga sorted that one out for me. I've been astrally projecting for just as long as I have been meditating, also. As a child, I thought it was normal, and for me it was normal. Again, I don't need god bc I am spiritually awake. Words cannot convey what that means. God is a word. Words confuse and mislead, which can lead to our downfall.

He didn't...

Our Free Will Nature allowed it..


Just like Satan deceived 1/3 of the Angels, so did he do to Eve, when she believed him, she let the essence of who he was into her being and into the earth which created the chaos that Satan tried to bring into the Supernatural Kingdom....


Should GOD of said at that point...Well they messed up...To hell with them...

Just like the Angels were banished from GOD's Throne, we were banished from the Garden...

Peace is comprehending eternity, I think. Fuck knows.

A child dies every 3 seconds.

I would say, by all standards.

So you have no legitmate response to what I had to say here, correct?
Why am I not surprised?

Ignorance is far from bliss, for me, at least. The truth will set you free, quite literally, in my experience, but the abilty to seek it seems to come from within, and not all have the courage to pursue it.

Your god is one incredibly incapable being.
All powerful means all powerful.
Your god is a dick for letting all the negative shit happen. If he is all powerful and loving he wouldn't have.
He is a dick.

Still not sure what you are saying..

How did you find a Spiritual World? is that just for you? or anyone can find the Spiritual World you un-covered?

Who created Nature?

How do you know you are *Spiritually Awake* if you deny GOD who is the Creator and Essence of what is *Spirit*

Sounds about right to me. Life goes on, whether we do or not, and seeds will sprout, the sun and stars will shine, new stars will be born, and the whole thing is a beautiful process which goes on and on for eternity, as far as we know. Who cares why or how? Just enjoy the ride.

The Antichrist will offer you just that and more. That's why your kind will fall in his trap : you are looking for a miracle worker.

He responds to people all the time, though those people are usually just called whack jobs. Do you have children? Do you give your children the answers to their questions about their homework, or do you help them along with guidance so that they can learn?