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Apollo, what is the 'pit' that the dragon is cast down into? Is there an astrological reference to it?

I see a lot of astrological symbology in the Revelation, the more that I look into it.

Faces like SCORPIONS, the head of the LION, the dividing of the FISH.

I know that we're intended to take all of these things as coincidence, but it all adds up far too well, IMO.

Additionally, all the references to the "bright and morning star". With these being used for both the bad guy and the good guy, there has to be another meaning behind it. Looking at the references without the hype, there is definite astrological references there.

However, I say that they are different references. One to venus, and one to the sun.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi, heres the answer !

PRINCE of The ABYSS, 9:11 and the Bottomless Pit. (Part two in a Series) by Apollo

BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

PART ONE is here.
Thread: SUPER CONJUNCTION ...Morning of May 20th, then Evening Eclipse. Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed

This is a Interlude introduction to the Bible passage:

In Revelation we are introduced to Apollyon, who has the key to the bottomless pit. Apollymi can be found in James 4:12 which mentions the Lawgiver and the judge. ONE THERE IS A LAWGIVER AND JUDGE, he who is able to save and to destroy.

Apollyon is translated as "destroyer." Its Hebrew version being Abaddon. The Abyss to which he holds the key is given " "abussos" for the bottomless pit in Greek, it still just refers to bottomless pit, or deep pit,


We will need comparisons in Hebrew to de mystify this passage,

This one of my favorites , first things I learned about Abussos.



Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'


(The beginning of the Eighth Day)


Springs of the Great Deep - 2nd month 17th day in Noah’s 600th year.
Genesis 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep "Tehom" broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."


Bottomless pit is simply the ocean. (Exodus 20:4; Deut 5:8).
He is the beast that rises from the ocean.



REVELATION 11:7 When they [the two witnesses] have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the Abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. (NASU)


REVELATION 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is to ascend from the bottomless pit and go to perdition . . . (RSV)


REVELATION 13:1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea . . . (NKJV)


Revelation 11:7 and 17:8 are referring to Abaddon as the "beast" who will ascend from the "bottomless pit." What we Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'"
There is a movie called, THE ABYSS, by James Cameron who was noted to work on the Lost Tomb of Jesus side by side with Israeli Antiquities.

:911apollyon:


Revelations
Chapter 9



9:11 The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from the sky which had fallen to the earth. The key to the pit of the abyss was given to him.

9:2 He opened the pit of the abyss, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke from a burning furnace. The sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke from the pit.

9:3 Then out of the smoke came forth locusts on the earth, and power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

9:4 They were told that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those people who don't have God's seal on their foreheads.

9:5 They were given power not to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion, when it strikes a person.

9:6 In those days people will seek death, and will in no way find it. They will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

9:7 The shapes of the locusts were like horses prepared for war. On their heads were something like golden crowns, and their faces were like people's faces.

9:8 They had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like those of lions.

9:9 They had breastplates, like breastplates of iron. The sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, or of many horses rushing to war.

9:10 They have tails like those of scorpions, and stings. In their tails they have power to harm men for five months.

9:11 They have over them as king the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is "Abaddon," but in Greek, he has the name "Apollyon."



QOUTE:

Apollyon/Abbadon is based on Kalki (the Destroyer). He rides on a white horse and will destroy all the evil-doers and usher in the Golden Age.

This (Hinduism) preceeds the Bible by thousands of years. The Bible is just a collection of plagiarized religions.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Yes, Apollyon is the rider of the White Horse

Qoute:

Contrary to what some christians think, Abaddon/Apollyon is an Archangel of God. This is why he harms/binds Satan and all those "who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads".


:faithfultrue:


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SEA BEAST. 2012 Year of the BLACK WATER DRAGON

GRECO ROMAN BEAST


Why Neptune is the beast from the Sea. (Charts and Proof Below) Prophecy of the Merovinginians. !



On January 23, 2012, (New Moon in Aquarius: Western Zodiac) We started the year of the Black "WATER" Dragon in Chinese zodiac, This is especially interesting for readers of revelation who read that a powerful Beast King will arise from the sea.



Note from Apollo: All the signs are here, especially the prophecy of King Neptune. It being the Year of the Dragon in Chinese New Year. I'm not implying that the Anti Christ is Chinese nor is the Chinese involved in any morbid prophecy. You can take the theories at your own discretian and interpretation. The Chinese see the Dragon as a sign of luck and power.


Then on February 21, 2012 in the Western Zodiac we are in for a treat !! Neptune will conjunct the Sun after it moves back into Pisces on February 3, 2012

This will launch more than a decade of Neptune in Piscean power up until the year 2025.

Is this the Popes Hat or Mitre? The Fish hat of the Dogons who claim lineage from Sirius?



:pisceancrown2:


:popehat:




Qoute: The Meroveus or Merovingian Bloodlines of ancient france whos bloodlines extend to Royal England an Scotland are claimed to have been spawned from a Two fathers and One mother who swam out to sea whilst bearing child and came back impregnated with a reptilian sea beast child.

From [link to www.watch.pair.com]

“Meroveus” derives from the French words “mer” meaning “sea” and “vere” meaning “werewolf” or “dragon.” The book of Revelation informs us the dragon is “the Devil, and Satan”:

The term “Merovingian” is said to derive from Merovee who was King of the Franks from 447-458 A.D. Despite recent claims that the Merovingian Franks were sired by Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, and are therefore “divine,” …….



According to the legend, as explained in Bloodline of the Holy Grail, Merovee had two fathers, King Clodion and a strange “beast of the sea.”

:seabeast:



" The Bistea Neptunis was worshipped in classical antiquity as the Roman god, Neptune, and as Poseidon in Greek mythology. Neptune was the mythological god of the sea who is said to have founded Atlantis, which is the pagan version of the pre-flood civilization which God judged in Genesis 7. Revelation 13:1, which identifies the Antichrist systen as “the beast that rises out of the sea,” becomes crystal clear upon discovery that a demonic bloodline which exists today that was originally sired by a mysterious “sea beast”—the Bistea Neptunis."





In Revelation 13 We are introduced to the beast that rises from the sea.
1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (Sea Goat. Neptune, Leviathan. Typhon Cthulhu). , rise up out of the sea, having seven heads .

PIcture of TYPHON with One main head but many appendages.


:typhonis:


(Seven heads are often referred to the seven world powers. Egypt, Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, Rome , England and then America. America as the last world power ) It can also refer to religions, Seven main religions of the world are
Christianity, Catholicism. Judaism, Islam, Hindu, Buddhism and New Age (Wiccan and Luciferi and Others)
In mystic powers, this Sea Beast will derive support from the Seven Main Religions and the Seven Main Continents and the Seven Main World Powers.
Where will he arise?



Here is a commenter:
Qoute: All that is okay except one thing: its not the European Union that is divided but the whole planet in 2 hemispheres: east & west with 10 region blocs. EU is NOT the new roman empire. USA is the new Roman Empire. The Antichrist will EMERGE from USA not from Europe. He will be a Danite Prince of European Descendancy with citizenship of USA out of the Bilderberg Group.

Cont: and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Recall that ten main degrees of the Illuminati refers to the Initiations of the planets and bodies and stars

Sun, Moon,Mercury, Venus, Mars. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus , Neptune and Pluto are main spiritual intiations. In ancient history, horns stood for light streaming from the head. And the ten horns could mean ten initations upon the Earth initiate.

In latin vulgate they used the word Cornus, Which we derive cornucopia from.



2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard,(strong) and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Rex Quondam Rex Futurus, Son of a different Slave Girl) , and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Mars in leo/virgo): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.


:angelsea23:

Qoute by good news Christian Ministry: The monster these seven heads belong to is Satan, the dragon, the creature Babylon is shown to ride. (Rv.17:3). Often described in prophetic passages as the 'sea monster' (or Leviathon), this dragon is the ruler of the lower sea.


Revelation 17:9-10, a much clearer picture emerges: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings..

Daniel 7:24 “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.”.

The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. …The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire (Revelation 17:3-16).


I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. … When he opened the Abyss, … out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions … They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon (Revelation 9:1-3, 10-11).


Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men (Revelation 13:11-13).










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"The Bible is just a collection of plagiarized religions". Is it???
In refutation to this, please consider the following from Hidden Treasures in the Biblical Text by Chuck Missler: "The recurrence of seven-or an exact multiple of seven-is found throughout the Bible ... Consider the following assignment: Try designing a genealogy-even from fiction-which meets the following criteria:

1) The number of words in it must be divisible by 7 evenly...
2) The number of letters must also be divisible by 7...
3) The number of vowels and the number of consonants must also each be divisible by 7...
4) The number of words that begin with a vowel must be divisible by 7.
5) The number of words that begin with a consonant must be divisible by 7...
6) The number of words that occur more than once must be divisible by 7.
7) The number of words that occur in more than one form shall be divisible by 7.
8) The number of words that occur in only one form shall be divisible by 7...
9) The number of nouns shall be divisible by 7.
10) Only 7 words shall not be nouns
11) The number of names in the genealogy shall be divisible by 7.
12) Only 7 other kinds of nouns are permitted.
13) The number of male names shall be divisible by 7.
14) The number of generations shall be 21, also divisible by 7.

...If you encounered such genealogy, would you attribute such characteristics as these to random chance?

These have all been met (in the Greek) in the genealogy of Jesus Christ in the first 11 verses of the Gospel of Matthew. (pg 23-28)
 
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