RUN FROM THEM WHO TEACH YOU TO GO AGAINST THE FATHER LAWS AND COMMANDS

You all are so funny!Thats a good joke right there

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/10/2012 10:02 AM

It´s your word against mine.

No, it's about truth absolute, on contrary to opinions about it.

I know more than you.

One of the false prophetess on GLP is lisa lisa, she blows with every doctrine there is. You can't tell really what she beleives, and if you call her out on it she bans you from her thread.

Nice - you will align to, whatever mirrors your essence.

Your Source is not a mirror.

They hate truth and those who present the bible facts.This is what we need to teach each other hard truths that we all be changed in heart.Where there is love there is discipline, but they call this hatered and not having grace and being unpolished.

Apart from the semantics, it would be helpful to consider, where the energy to drive it all comes from.

Do philosophy on your own further. This thread is about the Bible.

My pleasure

"The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure."
"They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness." Psalm 111:7-8

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."Ecclesiastes 12:13

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law,
till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18

"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments." 1 John 5:2

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Revelation 22:14

great thank you for the reassuring of the word

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/10/2012 10:41 AM

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rUN FROM THEM.. i WOULD RATHER RUN TO THEM THEN TO THE BRAIN WASHED ZOMBIES THAT ARE GONA TRY AND FORCE ME TO JOIN YOUR CULT

Please help me to understand. Which of the 613 laws are we to keep? Please don't generalize, for I am trying to gain a clear perspective on what everyone is saying. Please provide a list.

Thanks

this is why there is messiah yeshah..You cannot sit and count the laws like that because eg. He said to love!

Love covers a multitude of commands and statutes within itself.If love you will obey..you will not gossip,slander,lie,do harm to another,love is gentle ,kind speaks well and thinks the best of others and so on

Thou shall not steal eg not cheating on time at work, not taking things from your job,not steal money,not steal someones indentity, cheating and so on


SO ALL THE 613 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE ALLATTRIBUTES OF THE TEN AND FURTHRE SUBATTRIBUTES OF THE TWO THE MESSIAH GAVE.

That is why he said all the laws and the prophets are hung on them

Makes you excited to think about it, doesn't it?

You are saying that all of the laws must be kept, yet you claim to be a Christian. How can a Christian believe that the laws governing sacrifice should be kept? See where I am getting confused with your assertion?

You, and others on this site, have made great pains to talk about keeping the commandments, but you fall short in providing specifics. You stir up fear, but don't provide any guidance. You can't make a blanket statement saying that all of the commands must be kept without going into specifics as they relate to Christian living and not expect another Christian to ask for clarification.

bloody sacrifices = the Levitical law
unbloody sacrifices = the order of Melchizedek

... not the same. Educate yourself first on the issue.

when you go to work your boss tells you you have to be at your desk 8am..you have to sit at a particular desk..you have 1 hour for lunch. you finish work at 4pm.you are not to surf the internet. nO personal phone calls.etc

Is he raising fear? or controlling quality product that is in harmony with his goals.

Are you not rewarded for being a great worker one who follows protocol and loves his job.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/12/2012 04:51 PM

if you love and honor the father you do everything he says.
the commandments,statutes,ordinances. by this you show that
you love him. the sacrifices are no longer required. the commandments are the lamp. which means that they are for every person alive. the statutes and ordinances are for specific groups of people. the parable of the 5 wise and 5
foolish virgins. they both follow the commandments but only
the wise virgins follow the statues and ordinances. the 613
statues of phariseesism are nonsence.read the bible and follow what is there, and not there interpritaion. the torah
was ment to be simple and straight forward. if you look up
the laws quoted in the 613 you will find that it does not exist in scriptures. follow what was given in scriptures.
the seperation of meat and dairy does not exit. dont boil a kid in its mothers milk means exactly that. it is now known
to be a cannanite furtility ruitual. besides if you read
genesis you will find that abraham gave butter,meat and milk
to the prince when he was going to sodom and gomorrah. the
sabbath follows a lunar calander. all nations followed the
lunar calander up to the time of the messiah. the julian
calander was invented in 46 bce. if you pay attention to
scriptures you can figure out when the real sabbath is. we are given specific day and month in scripture for a reason.
look up new moon in scripture. look up the lunar sabbath
in google. it is gods clock. the first cresent of the new
moon is the 1st of the month. the rest are sabbaths on the 8th,15,22,29 days of the lunar month.it has nothing to do with the gregorian solar calander the was invented int the 1400's. on exodus they left the following evening after passover. the day after sabboth. the next time mentioned
is the 15 day of the second month. a sabboth. at evening
which starts the 16 day yahuah provided meat, then bread in
the morning. he did no work on the sabbath. he provided bread on the 16 . 1st work day. then read scriptures on how he provided bread for 5 more days then rested on the sabbath. it is a simple day count forward and backward to figure out the sabbath days. this is only 1 of 72 points in scripture.1 first day of the new moon is a holy convocation,or festivle. it falls in the 7th day sabbath count althouth it is not called a sabbath. it is called the new moon. go to scriptures and do your research and it will be self evident, or if you wish do a google search and many gracious people have done the work for you. sorry to ramble.
this is barely the tip of the truth. Ezekiel 46 give it a read. read the last part of Daniel 11 pluse the begining of 12 , the deciever has had a long time to confuse the truth.
but it can still be found in scriptures. start reading scriptures from the begining. the end was told from the begining. the new testement was not new it just consolidated what was in the old testement. remember..the early church did not have the new testiment.

You are telling people to obey some of the Torah, but to ignore other laws. For example you wrote: "There is no Temple, so all temple rituals no longer apply to YOU." Jesus said not to do what you are doing:


Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19)


In fact the Torah includes commandments to build a tent temple, but you don't think those laws apply to you. You can just obey some of the other laws in the Torah, and that's good enough right? Obeying all the laws in the Torah, that's too hard for OP!!!

the temple rituals of old blood sacrifices. oh! and to build your temple is to build your spritual temple by sanctification and inward cleansing of the old man putting on charity and walking holy.
The father abide not in temples made with hands or of stone but you are the temple of his spirit

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/12/2012 07:23 PM

except you, of course.

Your thread subject says to "RUN FROM THEM WHO TEACH YOU TO GO AGAINST THE FATHER LAWS AND COMMANDS". Surely you know that God commanded the Israelites to perform blood sacrifices and other temple rituals. It's part of the Torah.

You are telling people to "go against the Father's laws and commands". You are telling people to just obey part of the Torah, that's good enough. Logically, you should be running away from yourself.

You are breaking the Torah, and trying to encourage other people to join you in your law-breaking.

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(James 2:10)