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Suicide & Addiction - Man Saved From Hell By Jesus Christ!

 
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Dear Lisa,

Thank you for sharing these videos of this mans incredible testimony about how he become saved from hell. It meant a lot to me personally as I could relate to his story in many ways.

I quit drinking 3 weeks, 1 day ago. What helped me was prayer to come to that decision and it's helping me every day since I believe.

It really hurts to hear people run down and call people names who have addictions. I am going to put myself out there and share my story that led me on the path to my alcohol addiction for the first time because it will help me and maybe others.

Here it goes.....

I came from a broken home, my parents split up and divorced when I was 12 years old. I was the eldest of 4 children. When they split up, my mother took my 2 sisters and brother to another province and I stayed with my father. Given my age of 12, I was the only one that had a choice and made my decision because of not wanting to leave friends and my school at the time.

My father had a girlfriend who was only 10 years older then I was, this is what destroyed my parents marriage. She moved in with the 2 of us and I hated her. I blamed her for the break up of out family. What I did to cope was never be at home. I stayed at friends homes all the time, the ones that had good families with no drama. This worked for a while to get me by for a year or 2.

Then around 15 or 16 I started drinking, this was like a cure for me to block the pain, bitterness and resentment I had bottled up in for so long. I always felt like I was running away from things until the alcohol.

I should mention that when our family was together, we were church going Catholics every Sunday. My father was a policeman as well. Our family until the break up looked like a model to follow from the outside but from the inside both my parents were heavy drinkers. They fought since as far back as I can remember almost every time they drank.

Back to my story...

I drank and partied all my teen years and eventually began to get in trouble because of it from my father. I eventually moved to where my mother lived and my siblings.
Ran away from the pressure really. I started my life over and ended up working a full time job with an airline as a flight attendant. I thought I had finally figured things out for myself. I ended up living on my own and carrying on an okay life. I still drank but convinced myself it was the same as everyone else I knew.

Life brought me moving in a direction that I ended up marrying and having 2 beautiful daughters and a home. Things eventually became to crumble in my marriage over mistrust. I was convinced my husband was cheating and accused him of it all the time. I'm sure now it had to do deep down over what happened between my parents and what I witnessed. Eventually he did cheat and he confessed it during an argument. I still remember the look on his face when he said, I was always being accused of it, I might as well go through with it. I ended up taking our girls (2 and 5 yrs) and left him over it.

I moved to another city and met another man eventually who I am married to today, 24 years this April 16, Monday. I swore when I married this time it was for the long haul no matter what. We had a son together as well who will be 19 this August.

My drinking over the years just kept on going through all of this and escalating to the point where I was hiding it from people. I knew deep down it was wrong and stopped for a bit at times, this made it worse because I convinced myself I had control. After all my kids left home it was a relief sadly because I could drink anytime I wanted.

I was the type of drinker that would drink 2-3 glasses of wine daily for a while, then binge, just wasted to a black out stage where I'd get a 2-3 day hungover. These were my last days of drinking lately in the last couple of years.

3 weeks ago, on a Friday I was drinking vodka straight in a shooter glass along with wine. Partying with my son and his friends that came home. I was sooo sick Saturday morning that I prayed/cryed to God make me die or help me. I felt that bad. After I did that, I felt something stir in me, like a hatred for alcohol, just the thought if it disgusted me and here I am today, still feeling the same.

I hope this is it for me, please pray for me that it is because I'm terrified to go back. I hated living the lies and feel I can have a way better life.

Thanks for listening.

Kate hf

PS: I'm sorry if there was any grammar and spelling mistakes in this, I am pretty emotional at the moment. :(
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Sounds more like he had a bad trip. chuckle
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The bible is such a warped story, full of DRAMA!!! It doesn't help it's credibility that it's tied to the Old Testament.
Your story is that we are already condemned to hell from birth, but that Jesus saves us from that.

WTF?? Why would God create you and condemn you to hell before you are born? Really???? That's crazy.
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It's only scary to you because you probably still believe the world and life is governed by random chance.
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That makes no sense at all. It's like your brain farted.
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The bible is such a warped story, full of DRAMA!!! It doesn't help it's credibility that it's tied to the Old Testament.
Your story is that we are already condemned to hell from birth, but that Jesus saves us from that.

WTF?? Why would God create you and condemn you to hell before you are born? Really???? That's crazy.
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If God were held to the same standards humans were held to, he/she/it would be considered a true mental case. Likely even criminally insane. Fortunately, there is no god and thus no eternal nut job with whom to contend.
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I just went on a short walk outside, and I could feel god everywhere. Every day the veil lifts for me a bit more, and every day it becomes easier to tell that I'll love the afterlife more than this dead existence.


I've been awakened to christ, but I don't know if I can say I'm born again yet. I'm working as fast as I can to get rid of my gadgets and material things, then I'm off to find Jesus and God for myself. I know he was EXACTLY who he said he was and I know God is real. I don't need any church, or any pastor, or any congregation at my side, I've realized it myself. I've lived a life that SHOULD lead me straight to hell, but every single time I start to take another step towards it, god throws me a sing saying "hey, go ahead, you can go that way, you'll get all those things that path promises, surely, and you'll have all that money, and multiple women, but you'll lose me.". And EVERY SINGLE TIME it's enough.

I know that every day I wake up more to the illusions/delusions I've been fed by the system, school, my parents etc. Even them I'm going to have to leave behind because they're so intent on "making money" and "living in reality" as they put it. I just can't do it. I can't waste MY time "working" for "money" to pay for material things, especially with the words "you can't take it with you" ringing in my head every day (a friend of mine performed in a play by that name and it has always stuck with me when I think about doing something that would aid me materially). I know that I can walk away from everything, with nothing but the shirt on my back, and as long as I stay on the righteous path, the lord will provide for my every need until I walk through those gates.


Anyone reading this, take the time to say a short prayer for me. I'd really appreciate it. I've just started on the most serious part of my walk (that I can tell so far anyway) and I have almost no one at my side at this moment. Everyone wants to tease me about leaving school, refusing to take a soul killing job, and not trying to "make as much money as I can". But as Jesus said "you cannot worship two masters". I know it's money or God, and I'm fine with never making a dime in my life if it means I stay in god's grace. I'm straddling the line right now, being teased with "magick" and "witchcraft" by friends who have discovered "powers that have been hidden from us". But I know that losing the lord isn't worth whatever I might gain through that. Please pray for me in God's name, anyone reading this, I might not need anyone of THIS world on my walk, but I DO need people of THAT world that I can follow, and in turn, act like so that I may too lead by example.
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I'm praying for you right now......listening to .38 Special...Second Chance.....God will take you back time and time again and that's not say you won't have the dry spells in your spiritual life...BUT one thing I would ask is that you find a church and find brothers and sisters that can lift you up and support you.

An old friend of mine who was lost to depression and drugs recently left for down south with his pastor to help people rebuild homes for those who lost everything....sometimes when we're in the midst of our own struggle it's good to work for the good of others....I am with you, the Body of Christ is pulling for you and the Body is made stronger by His victory of your re-birthed soul...JOY to you.

An uplifting read for you, if you get the chance is Heaven is for Real...highly recommend this.
Definitely not made for this world--at least not this century.

...you are dangerous to everyone---not because you are ungifted, but because you embrace evil with your teachings. In so doing, in trying to be kind, to be unselfish, in trying to be nonjudgmental, you allow evil to become far more powerful than it otherwise would. You refuse to see evil, and so you welcome it among you. You allow it to exist. You give it power over you. You are a people who have welcomed death and refuse to denounce it. You are an empire naked to the shadow of evil. Terry Goodkind, NAKED EMPIRE
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The bible is such a warped story, full of DRAMA!!! It doesn't help it's credibility that it's tied to the Old Testament.
Your story is that we are already condemned to hell from birth, but that Jesus saves us from that.

WTF?? Why would God create you and condemn you to hell before you are born? Really???? That's crazy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14451944


It's only scary to you because you probably still believe the world and life is governed by random chance.
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That makes no sense at all. It's like your brain farted.
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[glpvideo]
Stop w the bible and religion that we know is corrupted and contrived by evil people.

( I do think the bible has a lot of truh but that's besides he point)

There is more to this life and there is a creator, can we agree on that?
So don't be distracted by the bullshit. There is a GOD. Focus on that and forget the rest.


Got it?
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It's not "conceptualizing", it's logical thinking and just as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.
1 + 1 = 2 remains true always, even if your Christian "God" disagrees.
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And where did the human concept of a 1 and of a 2 come from?

Stop worshiping your own thinking.
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It is not a human concept, it is an universal concept that just "is": One object plus another object make two objects. If you argue that "two" is a human concept, let's just say that a manifoldness of objects has a different quality than a singularity of objects (one orange is different from 2,3,4,...,x oranges).

And even birds do understand that a manifoldness of twigs have a different quality than just one twig: Try building a nest with just one twig.

Human concept, eh?
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 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


if you read NDEs around the world you see that muslims see allah, christians jesus, hindus see shiva etc...
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Actually, this is not always true. You have only been reading one or two sources on NDEs which claim this is true, but its not. I don't have time now to explain but I'll come back later and maybe even start a new thread on this.
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What are we to think of an all-knowing god who knows that the mere act of placing the tree in the garden is going to damn countless millions who do not yet even exist, to hell for all eternity and thus does it anyway?

To top that off, we're also told this god is all-powerful. He didn't have to place the tree there and we all could have lived in bliss forever and ever.

But instead he created this existence of evil and suffering and also created the place where those who are incapable of making the right decision, are not astute enough to choose correctly and lack the influence in their life that leads them the correct way, where they will burn in a conscience torment forever and ever.
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Heaven , hell , whatever . These are make believe places , which only braindead , mindless sheep , called christians believe EXIST !
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Once again, this is not true....many people believe in heaven and hell....not just Christians. And many athiests have had near death experiences and come back and change their mind and become convinced there is a heaven and hell and life after death.
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So you believe in a God because Christianity scared you into believing in him?
And if you do as you are told, all you'll ever get for it is playing harp in heaven with nerve-racking Christian sectarians for all eternity?

Is that the way things should be?

Have you no appetite for a healthy revolt? All dictators have to go one day, it just takes balls and a critical mass.
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I believe in GOD because of my heart and soul. Not because of fear. In fact ., fear has zero to do with it. I feel him. I don't do religion . I pray alone at night. Do you have a child? Because of my son, I know there is a GOD. Don't bring religion into it. Quit with all this bullshit. We are here for a reason and we can't possibly comprehend who or what created us. But I will tell you someone or something did. And he is good . And we need him. Fear is worthless. You are wasting your energy on this religion and fear crap. Be smarter .
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I only speak against the Christian, "Bible" version of God, because it just doesn't make sense and is not compatible with reality as it is.

But I completely respect your feeling that there's more to life than meets the eye. I have that feeling too. But that feeling doesn't automatically imply there must be a God (as a separate being). So far there is no objective answer what's on the other side. Maybe there will never be such an answer. Which is fine with me.
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Who brought up Christianity? Not me! You did. You guys get so caught up in this nonsense religion that you let it rule you. You're so gullible. Letting anger cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife. Most people who love GOD now a days don't claim a religion. They are simply spiritual and want to be better people.
Why do you care about Christianity anyway. ? I don't ever worry about it. Who cares! You need to have your own relationship w God. Quit worrying about a revolt! So silly! Its like people who worry about race. What a waste of time. So irrelevant.
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Ever read the title of this thread? Please do... This whole discussion is about Christianity.

And if you believe that anger could "cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife" (like you say), you yourself are clearly identifying your version of God with the Christian one! Because it is only the Christian God that says "be angry against me - then go to hell!".
Get your thinking clear.... it's nice you don't subscribe to Christianity, but then why does your version of God look just like the monstrous, vengeful Christian version of God? Does not make sense.
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 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Heaven , hell , whatever . These are make believe places , which only braindead , mindless sheep , called christians believe EXIST !
 Quoting: Foresight



Once again, this is not true....many people believe in heaven and hell....not just Christians. And many athiests have had near death experiences and come back and change their mind and become convinced there is a heaven and hell and life after death.
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I am far from Christian and I believe in heaven and hell or something like it.
Get of the cristians shit! It's so funny how much hate people have towards them. Who cares? Worry about yourself my friend. Quit wasting your energy on others. And let's stop bringing religion into this. It's about god and right and wrong .
Be better, do better, feel better. There is a GOD or a creater. And if you truly believe you just die, then fine.
I hope that's not true. I can't imagine that. How horrible. I have a son and I live him so much that the thought of that makes me cry.
Let people believe what they want. Quit w the anger agaisnt religions . It's so aggressive and ugly. Why don't you move to the middle east w that attitude?
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I said it a thousand time already but, anyway. Hell and Heaven are mind constructions, or subconscious, whatever. So, if you fear death so much you can hallucinate about it, and think the experience was real, when in truth it was just a trick played by you own conscience.
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This is an interesting theory that is thrown around on GLP alot. But I've never seen anyone back it up with proof any proof, nor counter the evidence that suggests otherwise. For example, if we only create what we already believe to be true, then why are there so many accounts of athiests who visit hell and come back with a changed mind?
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Christards....*sigh* ... makes me want to *** baby Jesus.
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So many of those responding to this and other posts by believers say you don't believe in God and Jesus as Christ. Fine. That's your God-given -- yes, God-given -- choice. So why go out of your way to read and spew your vile bitterness on this and other posts? If God isn't real, why waste your precious time here?

You're like someone who says you don't believe the Grand Canyon exists because you've never seen it. So you make a trip to the Grand Canyon and, along with a stream of useless obscenities scream out over its vastness, "You do not exiiiiiist!" You might feel all proud of yourself for doing so, but to everyone else whose looking at the same view as you, you are seen as you truly are: INSANE!
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no more hell, it's party time with Jesus, Buddha, Krishna Babaji5a

All religious belief is over, it is the religion of love now!!!!!!

2012, Hello Golden Age of unconditional love, abundance, joy, bliss, peace.

Helllo sunshine from our two suns!!!!!!!


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there are many ways to the heart, one of them could be through Christianity or the love for Jesus
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I believe in GOD because of my heart and soul. Not because of fear. In fact ., fear has zero to do with it. I feel him. I don't do religion . I pray alone at night. Do you have a child? Because of my son, I know there is a GOD. Don't bring religion into it. Quit with all this bullshit. We are here for a reason and we can't possibly comprehend who or what created us. But I will tell you someone or something did. And he is good . And we need him. Fear is worthless. You are wasting your energy on this religion and fear crap. Be smarter .
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I only speak against the Christian, "Bible" version of God, because it just doesn't make sense and is not compatible with reality as it is.

But I completely respect your feeling that there's more to life than meets the eye. I have that feeling too. But that feeling doesn't automatically imply there must be a God (as a separate being). So far there is no objective answer what's on the other side. Maybe there will never be such an answer. Which is fine with me.
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Who brought up Christianity? Not me! You did. You guys get so caught up in this nonsense religion that you let it rule you. You're so gullible. Letting anger cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife. Most people who love GOD now a days don't claim a religion. They are simply spiritual and want to be better people.
Why do you care about Christianity anyway. ? I don't ever worry about it. Who cares! You need to have your own relationship w God. Quit worrying about a revolt! So silly! Its like people who worry about race. What a waste of time. So irrelevant.
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Ever read the title of this thread? Please do... This whole discussion is about Christianity.

And if you believe that anger could "cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife" (like you say), you yourself are clearly identifying your version of God with the Christian one! Because it is only the Christian God that says "be angry against me - then go to hell!".
Get your thinking clear.... it's nice you don't subscribe to Christianity, but then why does your version of God look just like


the monstrous, vengeful Christian version of God? Does not make sense.
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Where is Christian in the title?
I'm saying we may just be held accountable. We have a responsibility to do good not be careless and wreck less. What's wron with that? My thinking is clear ya idiot! I am not any religion. But I do know there's a God and I do know we need to follow certain rules and a respect for others. And there are consequenses -- doesn't science teach us that? Cause and effect??? You just wanna to bed feeling like there is no wrong in sinning. Shit, so do I! But guess what? There just might be. All I'm saying is we may have to answer for our actions and decisions. We may be being careless if we don't think it matters . You get what I'm saying now????

Is this too Christian for you???
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I only speak against the Christian, "Bible" version of God, because it just doesn't make sense and is not compatible with reality as it is.

But I completely respect your feeling that there's more to life than meets the eye. I have that feeling too. But that feeling doesn't automatically imply there must be a God (as a separate being). So far there is no objective answer what's on the other side. Maybe there will never be such an answer. Which is fine with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436091


Who brought up Christianity? Not me! You did. You guys get so caught up in this nonsense religion that you let it rule you. You're so gullible. Letting anger cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife. Most people who love GOD now a days don't claim a religion. They are simply spiritual and want to be better people.
Why do you care about Christianity anyway. ? I don't ever worry about it. Who cares! You need to have your own relationship w God. Quit worrying about a revolt! So silly! Its like people who worry about race. What a waste of time. So irrelevant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493014


Ever read the title of this thread? Please do... This whole discussion is about Christianity.

And if you believe that anger could "cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife" (like you say), you yourself are clearly identifying your version of God with the Christian one! Because it is only the Christian God that says "be angry against me - then go to hell!".
Get your thinking clear.... it's nice you don't subscribe to Christianity, but then why does your version of God look just like


the monstrous, vengeful Christian version of God? Does not make sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436091


Where is Christian in the title?
I'm saying we may just be held accountable. We have a responsibility to do good not be careless and wreck less. What's wron with that? My thinking is clear ya idiot! I am not any religion. But I do know there's a God and I do know we need to follow certain rules and a respect for others. And there are consequenses -- doesn't science teach us that? Cause and effect??? You just wanna to bed feeling like there is no wrong in sinning. Shit, so do I! But guess what? There just might be. All I'm saying is we may have to answer for our actions and decisions. We may be being careless if we don't think it matters . You get what I'm saying now????

Is this too Christian for you???
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...

I only speak against the Christian, "Bible" version of God, because it just doesn't make sense and is not compatible with reality as it is.

But I completely respect your feeling that there's more to life than meets the eye. I have that feeling too. But that feeling doesn't automatically imply there must be a God (as a separate being). So far there is no objective answer what's on the other side. Maybe there will never be such an answer. Which is fine with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436091


Who brought up Christianity? Not me! You did. You guys get so caught up in this nonsense religion that you let it rule you. You're so gullible. Letting anger cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife. Most people who love GOD now a days don't claim a religion. They are simply spiritual and want to be better people.
Why do you care about Christianity anyway. ? I don't ever worry about it. Who cares! You need to have your own relationship w God. Quit worrying about a revolt! So silly! Its like people who worry about race. What a waste of time. So irrelevant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493014


Ever read the title of this thread? Please do... This whole discussion is about Christianity.

And if you believe that anger could "cheat you out of love and a possible afterlife" (like you say), you yourself are clearly identifying your version of God with the Christian one! Because it is only the Christian God that says "be angry against me - then go to hell!".
Get your thinking clear.... it's nice you don't subscribe to Christianity, but then why does your version of God look just like


the monstrous, vengeful Christian version of God? Does not make sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14436091


Where is Christian in the title?
I'm saying we may just be held accountable. We have a responsibility to do good not be careless and wreck less. What's wron with that? My thinking is clear ya idiot! I am not any religion. But I do know there's a God and I do know we need to follow certain rules and a respect for others. And there are consequenses -- doesn't science teach us that? Cause and effect??? You just wanna to bed feeling like there is no wrong in sinning. Shit, so do I! But guess what? There just might be. All I'm saying is we may have to answer for our actions and decisions. We may be being careless if we don't think it matters . You get what I'm saying now????

Is this too Christian for you???
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And for the record, when you are angry it does cheat you out of love !! And that is a fact Christian or not!!!!
Like I said, quit with your obsession of bringing up fucking religion. Then maybe we can have an interesting conversation.
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It's not "conceptualizing", it's logical thinking and just as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.
1 + 1 = 2 remains true always, even if your Christian "God" disagrees.
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Indeed, 1 + 1 = 2. But before there were 2 there was 1 -- the One from which all others come from and return to. If it were not true, He who speaks only truth would have told you so.
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Complete and utter bullshit. Jesus wouldn't send someone to hell because of an addiction. One reason is because hell is a myth. This guy was either tripping out or is flat out lying.

Christians that believe an all loving god would torment someone for all of eternity are pretty disgusting people.
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God is NOT an ALL-loving God. He loves what is good and he has wrath for what is evil.

He IS ABLE and WILLING to FORGIVE all, however - if you admit you are a sinner, and if you believe Christ came to die as judgement for your sins. Then you are forgiven.

It's really simple, actually.

There are those that believe in God and Christ, and they still have addictions. They die and their sins are forgiven. They are still able to enter the kingdom of God, even if they die in the midst of a sinful addiction. Jesus already paid the penalty price for them.

But if you die without belief in Jesus, you are taking a big risk!
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Complete and utter bullshit. Jesus wouldn't send someone to hell because of an addiction. One reason is because hell is a myth. This guy was either tripping out or is flat out lying.

Christians that believe an all loving god would torment someone for all of eternity are pretty disgusting people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081356


God is NOT an ALL-loving God. He loves what is good and he has wrath for what is evil.

He IS ABLE and WILLING to FORGIVE all, however - if you admit you are a sinner, and if you believe Christ came to die as judgement for your sins. Then you are forgiven.

It's really simple, actually.

There are those that believe in God and Christ, and they still have addictions. They die and their sins are forgiven. They are still able to enter the kingdom of God, even if they die in the midst of a sinful addiction. Jesus already paid the penalty price for them.

But if you die without belief in Jesus, you are taking a big risk!
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Unfortunately, your theology is wrong.
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Complete and utter bullshit. Jesus wouldn't send someone to hell because of an addiction. One reason is because hell is a myth. This guy was either tripping out or is flat out lying.

Christians that believe an all loving god would torment someone for all of eternity are pretty disgusting people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081356


God is NOT an ALL-loving God. He loves what is good and he has wrath for what is evil.

He IS ABLE and WILLING to FORGIVE all, however - if you admit you are a sinner, and if you believe Christ came to die as judgement for your sins. Then you are forgiven.

It's really simple, actually.

There are those that believe in God and Christ, and they still have addictions. They die and their sins are forgiven. They are still able to enter the kingdom of God, even if they die in the midst of a sinful addiction. Jesus already paid the penalty price for them.

But if you die without belief in Jesus, you are taking a big risk!
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conditional love, fear and control, that doesn't resonate to me with true love
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Re: Suicide & Addiction - Man Saved From Hell By Jesus Christ!
What if everything we have been told about religion is false?


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What if everything we have learned about Christianity is false?

Then I, as a Christian have lost nothing. If it is a lie, then Christians will die and go into nothing-ness, just like everyone else.

But what if Christianity is true?

If it is true, then those who believe in Christ gain everything - while the unbelievers lose big time.

Why would you gamble with a potential set up like that?

This is why everyone must at least learn more about Jesus, learn more about the grace and salvation that he offers, and THEN make their OWN decision.

"For what good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?" - Jesus Christ
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I just went on a short walk outside, and I could feel god everywhere. Every day the veil lifts for me a bit more, and every day it becomes easier to tell that I'll love the afterlife more than this dead existence.


I've been awakened to christ, but I don't know if I can say I'm born again yet. I'm working as fast as I can to get rid of my gadgets and material things, then I'm off to find Jesus and God for myself. I know he was EXACTLY who he said he was and I know God is real. I don't need any church, or any pastor, or any congregation at my side, I've realized it myself. I've lived a life that SHOULD lead me straight to hell, but every single time I start to take another step towards it, god throws me a sing saying "hey, go ahead, you can go that way, you'll get all those things that path promises, surely, and you'll have all that money, and multiple women, but you'll lose me.". And EVERY SINGLE TIME it's enough.

I know that every day I wake up more to the illusions/delusions I've been fed by the system, school, my parents etc. Even them I'm going to have to leave behind because they're so intent on "making money" and "living in reality" as they put it. I just can't do it. I can't waste MY time "working" for "money" to pay for material things, especially with the words "you can't take it with you" ringing in my head every day (a friend of mine performed in a play by that name and it has always stuck with me when I think about doing something that would aid me materially). I know that I can walk away from everything, with nothing but the shirt on my back, and as long as I stay on the righteous path, the lord will provide for my every need until I walk through those gates.


Anyone reading this, take the time to say a short prayer for me. I'd really appreciate it. I've just started on the most serious part of my walk (that I can tell so far anyway) and I have almost no one at my side at this moment. Everyone wants to tease me about leaving school, refusing to take a soul killing job, and not trying to "make as much money as I can". But as Jesus said "you cannot worship two masters". I know it's money or God, and I'm fine with never making a dime in my life if it means I stay in god's grace. I'm straddling the line right now, being teased with "magick" and "witchcraft" by friends who have discovered "powers that have been hidden from us". But I know that losing the lord isn't worth whatever I might gain through that. Please pray for me in God's name, anyone reading this, I might not need anyone of THIS world on my walk, but I DO need people of THAT world that I can follow, and in turn, act like so that I may too lead by example.
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Heavenly Father,

We ask you today to lift up your son here, this child of yours. Help him in his walk with You Lord. Give him the strength and determination he needs to run this race successfully with your help. Send him people that will encourage him, build him up, lift him up so that he can have fellowship with others who are also yours. We ask you today Lord to fill this young person with your Holy Spirit, lead him not into temptation but deliver him from evil. Let your will be done Lord, on earth as it is in heaven.

In Jesus Holy Name!

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there is no hell...........although life on this planet might be.
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for those who walk in the physical world and not the spiritual....

you have no clue and only exist in what you see....

the physical is a small part of reality....

only the surface....

think of an iceburg....

what you SEE is just the TIP OF THE ICEBURG....

the substantial part is hidden under water.

So it is with life....

the spiritual is hidden and one must out intentially seek it out to find it.

I pray that your eyes might be opened to the spiritual world that lays hidden to most.
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i create my reality, I am one with divine truth, love and peace
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To this human who wrote I create my own reality, that is so untrue. And selfish. You don't have that much power. Unless you wanna live alone and in denial. The world and others need you. You can't live in la la land. You are supposed to help and do good. Not live in your own false peace . Don't e so ignorant and self centered .. And don't flatter ourself buddy.
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Dear Lisa,

Thank you for sharing these videos of this mans incredible testimony about how he become saved from hell. It meant a lot to me personally as I could relate to his story in many ways.

I quit drinking 3 weeks, 1 day ago. What helped me was prayer to come to that decision and it's helping me every day since I believe.

It really hurts to hear people run down and call people names who have addictions. I am going to put myself out there and share my story that led me on the path to my alcohol addiction for the first time because it will help me and maybe others.

Here it goes.....

I came from a broken home, my parents split up and divorced when I was 12 years old. I was the eldest of 4 children. When they split up, my mother took my 2 sisters and brother to another province and I stayed with my father. Given my age of 12, I was the only one that had a choice and made my decision because of not wanting to leave friends and my school at the time.

My father had a girlfriend who was only 10 years older then I was, this is what destroyed my parents marriage. She moved in with the 2 of us and I hated her. I blamed her for the break up of out family. What I did to cope was never be at home. I stayed at friends homes all the time, the ones that had good families with no drama. This worked for a while to get me by for a year or 2.

Then around 15 or 16 I started drinking, this was like a cure for me to block the pain, bitterness and resentment I had bottled up in for so long. I always felt like I was running away from things until the alcohol.

I should mention that when our family was together, we were church going Catholics every Sunday. My father was a policeman as well. Our family until the break up looked like a model to follow from the outside but from the inside both my parents were heavy drinkers. They fought since as far back as I can remember almost every time they drank.

Back to my story...

I drank and partied all my teen years and eventually began to get in trouble because of it from my father. I eventually moved to where my mother lived and my siblings.
Ran away from the pressure really. I started my life over and ended up working a full time job with an airline as a flight attendant. I thought I had finally figured things out for myself. I ended up living on my own and carrying on an okay life. I still drank but convinced myself it was the same as everyone else I knew.

Life brought me moving in a direction that I ended up marrying and having 2 beautiful daughters and a home. Things eventually became to crumble in my marriage over mistrust. I was convinced my husband was cheating and accused him of it all the time. I'm sure now it had to do deep down over what happened between my parents and what I witnessed. Eventually he did cheat and he confessed it during an argument. I still remember the look on his face when he said, I was always being accused of it, I might as well go through with it. I ended up taking our girls (2 and 5 yrs) and left him over it.

I moved to another city and met another man eventually who I am married to today, 24 years this April 16, Monday. I swore when I married this time it was for the long haul no matter what. We had a son together as well who will be 19 this August.

My drinking over the years just kept on going through all of this and escalating to the point where I was hiding it from people. I knew deep down it was wrong and stopped for a bit at times, this made it worse because I convinced myself I had control. After all my kids left home it was a relief sadly because I could drink anytime I wanted.

I was the type of drinker that would drink 2-3 glasses of wine daily for a while, then binge, just wasted to a black out stage where I'd get a 2-3 day hungover. These were my last days of drinking lately in the last couple of years.

3 weeks ago, on a Friday I was drinking vodka straight in a shooter glass along with wine. Partying with my son and his friends that came home. I was sooo sick Saturday morning that I prayed/cryed to God make me die or help me. I felt that bad. After I did that, I felt something stir in me, like a hatred for alcohol, just the thought if it disgusted me and here I am today, still feeling the same.

I hope this is it for me, please pray for me that it is because I'm terrified to go back. I hated living the lies and feel I can have a way better life.

Thanks for listening.

Kate hf

PS: I'm sorry if there was any grammar and spelling mistakes in this, I am pretty emotional at the moment. :(
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We need to talk, you're so precious and wonderful. I'd like to get to know you better. I have to run out right now, but I"ll be back a little later.

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Complete and utter bullshit. Jesus wouldn't send someone to hell because of an addiction. One reason is because hell is a myth. This guy was either tripping out or is flat out lying.

Christians that believe an all loving god would torment someone for all of eternity are pretty disgusting people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081356


God is NOT an ALL-loving God. He loves what is good and he has wrath for what is evil.

He IS ABLE and WILLING to FORGIVE all, however - if you admit you are a sinner, and if you believe Christ came to die as judgement for your sins. Then you are forgiven.

It's really simple, actually.

There are those that believe in God and Christ, and they still have addictions. They die and their sins are forgiven. They are still able to enter the kingdom of God, even if they die in the midst of a sinful addiction. Jesus already paid the penalty price for them.

But if you die without belief in Jesus, you are taking a big risk!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6814516


Unfortunately, your theology is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081356



So do tell...what is your theology?

I am of the belief that it is grace, and not works, that save us. This is evidenced by the thief who died next to Christ on the cross. He believed in his final moments of life; and Christ assured him that "today you will be with me in paradise."

After 30+ years of studing the Bible, the life of Christ, and theology - this is what I believe the word of God says to be true. Paul went to great lengths to explain to the early church, that salvation is by faith and not through fulfilling any of the laws.

If you take the entire New Testaments in context, you will see that salvation is through faith alone. There is only one verse that suggests to the contrary - the verse that states "Faith without works is dead."

I understand that there are some Christian denominations that believe you also have to have good works and be fully repentant to be saved. But that is not biblical. Furthermore, it is a lie that keeps people away from Christ.

This is the gospel message. That is why it is such "good news." No matter how "bad" you have sinned - a change in your belief and attitude to accepting Christ is what saves you.
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Dear Lisa,

Thank you for sharing these videos of this mans incredible testimony about how he become saved from hell. It meant a lot to me personally as I could relate to his story in many ways.

I quit drinking 3 weeks, 1 day ago. What helped me was prayer to come to that decision and it's helping me every day since I believe.

It really hurts to hear people run down and call people names who have addictions. I am going to put myself out there and share my story that led me on the path to my alcohol addiction for the first time because it will help me and maybe others.

Here it goes.....

I came from a broken home, my parents split up and divorced when I was 12 years old. I was the eldest of 4 children. When they split up, my mother took my 2 sisters and brother to another province and I stayed with my father. Given my age of 12, I was the only one that had a choice and made my decision because of not wanting to leave friends and my school at the time.

My father had a girlfriend who was only 10 years older then I was, this is what destroyed my parents marriage. She moved in with the 2 of us and I hated her. I blamed her for the break up of out family. What I did to cope was never be at home. I stayed at friends homes all the time, the ones that had good families with no drama. This worked for a while to get me by for a year or 2.

Then around 15 or 16 I started drinking, this was like a cure for me to block the pain, bitterness and resentment I had bottled up in for so long. I always felt like I was running away from things until the alcohol.

I should mention that when our family was together, we were church going Catholics every Sunday. My father was a policeman as well. Our family until the break up looked like a model to follow from the outside but from the inside both my parents were heavy drinkers. They fought since as far back as I can remember almost every time they drank.

Back to my story...

I drank and partied all my teen years and eventually began to get in trouble because of it from my father. I eventually moved to where my mother lived and my siblings.
Ran away from the pressure really. I started my life over and ended up working a full time job with an airline as a flight attendant. I thought I had finally figured things out for myself. I ended up living on my own and carrying on an okay life. I still drank but convinced myself it was the same as everyone else I knew.

Life brought me moving in a direction that I ended up marrying and having 2 beautiful daughters and a home. Things eventually became to crumble in my marriage over mistrust. I was convinced my husband was cheating and accused him of it all the time. I'm sure now it had to do deep down over what happened between my parents and what I witnessed. Eventually he did cheat and he confessed it during an argument. I still remember the look on his face when he said, I was always being accused of it, I might as well go through with it. I ended up taking our girls (2 and 5 yrs) and left him over it.

I moved to another city and met another man eventually who I am married to today, 24 years this April 16, Monday. I swore when I married this time it was for the long haul no matter what. We had a son together as well who will be 19 this August.

My drinking over the years just kept on going through all of this and escalating to the point where I was hiding it from people. I knew deep down it was wrong and stopped for a bit at times, this made it worse because I convinced myself I had control. After all my kids left home it was a relief sadly because I could drink anytime I wanted.

I was the type of drinker that would drink 2-3 glasses of wine daily for a while, then binge, just wasted to a black out stage where I'd get a 2-3 day hungover. These were my last days of drinking lately in the last couple of years.

3 weeks ago, on a Friday I was drinking vodka straight in a shooter glass along with wine. Partying with my son and his friends that came home. I was sooo sick Saturday morning that I prayed/cryed to God make me die or help me. I felt that bad. After I did that, I felt something stir in me, like a hatred for alcohol, just the thought if it disgusted me and here I am today, still feeling the same.

I hope this is it for me, please pray for me that it is because I'm terrified to go back. I hated living the lies and feel I can have a way better life.

Thanks for listening.

Kate hf

PS: I'm sorry if there was any grammar and spelling mistakes in this, I am pretty emotional at the moment. :(
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Kate, I will be keeping you in my prayers. Stay close to Jesus and He will help you through this. I know how addiction can be too. I believe it's a tool of the enemy to drive us from God and for us to destroy ourselves physically and spiritually which only brings death. I had an addiction to pain meds my doctor gave me for health reasons. I would lie sometimes to get my prescription refilled every month. Jesus was watching me the entire time. Anyway, I ran out a few days before my prescription was ready to refilled and I felt sad/lonely , etc..Nobody was home at the time. For some reason I was crying at the drop of a hat...

I was watching a video that Lisa had posted about 'what heaven looks like', I got to a part that said babies, children etc that died early we will see in Heaven and I just started sobbing, as I lost a baby years ago and that's bothered me for years. I started to realise or feel that Jesus was right next to me and I mean for real ( not an imagination)I went into my room got on my knees and cried out to him to remove my addictions. I knew he was there in my room with me. I couldn't even lift my head, I started crying like I've never cried before but it was all joy, not out of sadness..I've never in my life ever cried from pure Joy. I felt Love from him that was indescrible. He took my addictions completely away..zero, zip..total freedom, I didn't want or desire any pills and I never felt calmer in my life, plus filled with joy that I can't begin to describe. I no longer desire those meds for pain. I am still working on quitting ciggys but I went completely for 24 hours after that experience off of them, not even 1 urge to smoke. So I know he is able to do anything. Thankyou Jesus. ( Sorry for the long testimony)

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