Abortion Survivor Meets Nurse Who Saved Her Life

Best decision you ever made? May it soon become a distant second.

Who the hell are you to judge?

It's none of your frigging business.

so the fact that we are biologically creating this being.
during which we smoke. drink and eat terrible during its conception and creation.
i dont want a child that has inate disadvantages,

if i did so i have done a negative move for humantiy.

people think its inpressive to reproduce,
the truth is no parents are going about it right. we got healthy , we got financially secured. we got educated.

now i feel i am a man ,fit to reproduce and in a postion to give every effort that is required for my child to be the best i could ever do.

if i "toughed it" with ill health , no money. no house, no plan. i dont see how that is morally any better.

faith is no argument here.
the mechanics of life are just that.

thank you

Well, your post was a bit hard to decipher, but I think you are referring to men who "say" they are ok with having kids, or will say anything the female wants to hear, and then when the responsibility is there, they don't stick around.

There is no doubt that such things happen.

Which is just another of the countless dysfunctional layers to human relationships.

Correct on all counts except one. You forgot about the fact the child had no say in the matter. If we define the moment of death as being the instant a heart beat stops, why can't we acknowledge the moment of life being the instant a heart beat starts?

No other female species on this planet kill their own offspring without a very valid reason. Women kill their children for matters of economic greed, self before others,and the lame excuse of "I am not ready to be a mother" Sorry sister, nature said you were ready!

This country is under a very high order curse that will not go away until the blood of the innocent has been vindicated. In all probability, the one child who was to arrive in this world to lead us to our next evolutionary level, was killed by an abortion procedure. Maybe you should view a video of a partial birth abortion and see what it's all about. A good one to see is the one where the child is pulled through the birth canal. In this scene, as the murder instrument is being inserted into the child's head, the child instinctively tries to crawl back up into the birth canal to escape the danger.

Not saying It's right, if a woman is raped, I can understand her not wanting that child, and any choice she makes is indeed her choice. Any other situation would be an act of murder. How the hell can anyone not understand that?

Few of us arrived here by the plans of our parents, it just kinda happened. For those of us that are here, we are lucky our mother followed her carnal instincts and allowed us the right to live. That right to live was a gift to us given from a force far greater than any philosophical ideal or law of mankind. Those that are spiritually dead will not resonate with this thought. Sorry, "it's a life thang, you would not understand".

Pro life or pro death? Yes, it is a choice!

when people think they're being smart by getting creative with words they're actually making themselves look stupid and hurting their cause because they are not ACTUALLY ARGUING THEIR POINT. just attacking yours. If you really believe it because you have thought about the topic and came to a conclusion you would be able to calmly articulate your point.

You people who think you have ANY say-so about abortion/non-abortion are fools.

It is a female's body, her right, her choice.

Not yours, not mine, not a husband's, not a boyfriend's, not a preacher's, not a relative's, not a stranger's.

Period.

what a fvcked up world if that's how it goes down....

NO ONE should use abortion for birth control.

But you label with such vile hatred, those who are pro-choice.

Does YOUR god approve of that kind of pointless and misguided hate?

Religionists believe they have it all figured out, when in reality, they merely cower in fear from logic, rational thought, and the concept of being fair, kind, and thoughtful human beings.

Unless that female is an unborn baby, then she has no right and no choice. Because the three inches between the uterus and the pubic hair impede makes all the difference in the world, right?

religion has no place in morality.

And atheism has no basis for morality. Sam Harris tried that one time and failed.

what if we KNOW the child will be unheathly.
what if we KNOW the child will be disadvantaged

is the morning after pill abortion?

and yet if i take an egg and inseminate it.
its not a person.

Morality is relative.
there is no logical absolute morality.

athiesm has more basis for morallity then ominiptence.

its not inherently biased , its just reletive
. just becasue its not ""nice"" doesnt mean its immoral.

the universe was never nice.

Sam harris isnt the king of athiest.
stop grouping them asif they are a sect.

If morality is relative, then your moral statement there is also relative. But it sounds like you are saying absolutely that "morality is relative", which fails the logic test. There has to be an absolute morality. If one man says eating another person is good and the another says it is bad, surely they can't both be right. One may be right, but they both can't be right. The color black can't both be black and white at the same time. Relativism was shown false along time ago.

Because the three inches between the uterus and the pubic hair impede makes all the difference in the world, right?

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yes. its makes a world of diffrence.


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I mentioned Harris because he was lauded as having the best argument for the basis for atheist morality. Okay, I'll bite... since you said atheism has a basis for morality, please explain this basis.

If morality is relative, then your moral statement there is also relative. But it sounds like you are saying absolutely that "morality is relative", which fails the logic test. There has to be an absolute morality. If one man says eating another person is good and the another says it is bad, surely they can't both be right. One may be right, but they both can't be right. The color black can't both be black and white at the same time. Relativism was shown false along time ago.

When innocent children are slaughtered, I make it my business, and so should every other human being on this planet. What the heck is wrong with society, that one class of people has been legislated to have no right to live? We are no better than the nazi's who slaughtered the jewish people, the settlers who slaughtered the Indians, the Soviets who slaughtered everyone who didn't agree or go along with them, etc.

haha

where is this absolute morallity??
what is it

what a joke
clearly you havent thought this over.


how can morallity ever NOT be relative.


,,,,,,,,,GOD?