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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States 05/13/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wrote him a very long post and I think he understands humanity on a deep level. Im hoping he responds to it. I definitely dont think he is a demon or in league with demons. I think he is a revolutionary mind and he also seems very christ like. and what do you have to say to san regarding Jesus Christ? nothing. I dont preach christ to non believers. I preach christ to so called christians who dont have a clue what they are talking about. call it a mission to improve christianity. Most of those that claim to be Christians push people away from God and some forever. Christians are a dime a dozen and have been church-ed way too much to be effective for the kingdom of God. What we need are disciples of Jesus Christ that live by example instead of holding others to standards they themselves do not follow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus to me was the finger pointing to the moon an extrodinary spirit of guidance . if we just stare at the finger we miss the moon(creation/god) but i honor the finger for doing the pointing Spectacular answer. Spectacular?! The correct answer, desperately and deliberately avoided and denied is God |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of those that claim to be Christians push people away from God and some forever. Christians are a dime a dozen and have been church-ed way too much to be effective for the kingdom of God. What we need are disciples of Jesus Christ that live by example instead of holding others to standards they themselves do not follow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14422899 Because you would approve of them and believe them... If you refuse Grace you will have Law. |
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SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus to me was the finger pointing to the moon an extrodinary spirit of guidance . if we just stare at the finger we miss the moon(creation/god) but i honor the finger for doing the pointing Spectacular answer. Spectacular?! The correct answer, desperately and deliberately avoided and denied is God how can you ask "who do YOU say that jesus christ is?" and then tell someone their answer is wrong? you asked for their opinion...not yours. DCLXVI |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When theJWES stoned Stephen to death, was it because his preaching was not up to your standards? when the Romans threw the Christians to the lions and burned them alive, was it because they preached as you would know better than they did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16003162 yes And why did they, Romans and JWZ, humanity, kill Christ? Because Christ didn't preach Christ to your satisfaction and arrogant approval either? |
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SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When theJWES stoned Stephen to death, was it because his preaching was not up to your standards? when the Romans threw the Christians to the lions and burned them alive, was it because they preached as you would know better than they did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16003162 yes And why did they, Romans and JWZ, humanity, kill Christ? Because Christ didn't preach Christ to your satisfaction and arrogant approval either? they didnt kill him. he allowed himself to die...according to the scripture. DCLXVI |
SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When theJWES stoned Stephen to death, was it because his preaching was not up to your standards? when the Romans threw the Christians to the lions and burned them alive, was it because they preached as you would know better than they did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16003162 yes And why did they, Romans and JWZ, humanity, kill Christ? Because Christ didn't preach Christ to your satisfaction and arrogant approval either? they didnt kill him. he allowed himself to die...according to the scripture. He allowed what THEY DID and declared it would be done hundreds of years beforehand. They still did. God came to humanity in human flesh. Humanity rejected and killed Him. Scripture does not say they didn't kill him. Quite the contrary. Shall we pursue the Scriptural evidences now to see who knows Scripture better, Mr.666? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you die, be sure to tell Christ to leave now that you've arrived... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16003162 haha. are you serious? you are the one with the anger in your heart. you are the one with the holy convictions. not me, i dont even believe the man existed. You're the one who keeps saying anger and hate, as if you can force it upon me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States 05/13/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of those that claim to be Christians push people away from God and some forever. Christians are a dime a dozen and have been church-ed way too much to be effective for the kingdom of God. What we need are disciples of Jesus Christ that live by example instead of holding others to standards they themselves do not follow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14422899 Because you would approve of them and believe them... If you refuse Grace you will have Law. You are not quit getting what I am saying. -I am referring to those that punch the clock on Sunday mornings and even worse the Christmas/Easter crowd. -Those that hug each other in the church and then have a demolition derby in the parking lot to see who can get out of there the fastest. -Those that tell their co-workers that they are Christians and tell them filthy jokes and show them tricks on how to cheat on their taxes. -Those that place heavy burdens on them and do not lift a finger to do the same. -Those that preach and teach a feel good message that God in an ATM machine. -Those that have a Jesus bumper sticker on their car and almost put you in the ditch when they just cut you off. When people look at those as these are they think that it is OK to live like hell because ' other christians do.' |
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SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why did they, Romans and JWZ, humanity, kill Christ? Because Christ didn't preach Christ to your satisfaction and arrogant approval either? they didnt kill him. he allowed himself to die...according to the scripture. He allowed what THEY DID and declared it would be done hundreds of years beforehand. They still did. God came to humanity in human flesh. Humanity rejected and killed Him. Scripture does not say they didn't kill him. Quite the contrary. Shall we pursue the Scriptural evidences now to see who knows Scripture better, Mr.666? believe me, i know the bible better than you know the pledge of allegiance. DCLXVI |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | believe me, i know the bible better than you know the pledge of allegiance. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix No you don't. I've got almost every version right in front of me, and numerous helps and aids along with them, all very well used, not to mention the on-line resources at my finger tips, along with 30 years of study, and a trip to Israel so that I have visuals to attach to the words. Believe me, you do not. |
SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you ask "who do YOU say that jesus christ is?" and then tell someone their answer is wrong? you asked for their opinion...not yours. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix If I say what do you say 2 + 2 is and you say 5 can I say that you arewrong? Yes or no? this is an illogical argument. you asked for someones opinion on who jesus is not a math question. not everyone believes jesus was god. you do, and thats fine but to expect everyone you believe the same as you is absurd. DCLXVI |
SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | believe me, i know the bible better than you know the pledge of allegiance. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix No you don't. I've got almost every version right in front of me, and numerous helps and aids along with them, all very well used, not to mention the on-line resources at my finger tips, along with 30 years of study, and a trip to Israel so that I have visuals to attach to the words. Believe me, you do not. yes i do DCLXVI |
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san (OP) User ID: 1862457 United States 05/13/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | San, I would like to share a vision I had with you. I know a bunch a bible thumpers and trolls will be all over me for this but I feel like taking about it anyways. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix A few years back I was experimenting with a range of entheogens. I pretty much wanted to try each one that was available in my area so I started with mushrooms, as they were the easiest to get a hold of. I took them with a group of friends and we tripped for a few hours. Nothing too significant. Mostly just color and sound enhancement mixed with a touch of introspective self confrontation. You know, pretty run of the mill. I ended up getting my hands on some LSD and I gave that a go. Same basic trip as the mushrooms but much more intense. Me and a buddy of mine liked it but we wanted to go deeper. We never "broke through," so to speak. So we headed over to our local head shop and picked up some 100X salvia. We didnt have high expectations seeing as how it was legal to buy and the videos on youtube make it look like a kiddy fad. Well, we got back to my place and loaded up a couple bowls and jumped in feet first. I used a torch lighter to really make sure I got a solid burn on it. I drew in a majestic toke and held it until my vision began to vibrate. I let the smoke out slowly and I felt a rush of what felt like liquid energy move from my abdomen up through my chest and neck and into my head. I was immediately pulled from my living room by and invisible force and thrust into the heavens. I was high above a great expanse of flat land filled with people. The people were falling to there knees and bowing in unison and as I turned to try and see what they were bowing to I could make out the silhouette of an enormous humanoid figure above all of us. Just as this silhouette came into view I thrust even higher into a black star filled sky where I could see the curvature of the earth. I could still see the enormous figure but he was surrounded by several other enormous earth sized figures and they were also bowing in unison. Again, I turned to see what it was that they were bowing to and I saw yet another ever more preposterously large figure. The size of this figure was utterly shocking. And once more I was thrust into deeper space where I saw that this gigantic entity was also surrounded by others of equal size. And they too were bowing in honor of something greater than themselves. I was then returned to my reality but the shock stayed with me for months and I still am not exactly sure what I was shown. I know this doesnt really have a lot to do with your original post but you seem like a person who might have some insight into the information I was given that day. if I may .... it seems that you were shown that you (your soul) are but a spark belonging to a over soul which in turn belongs to yet another over soul. yeah, from my summation, I gathered that it was showing me that there are greater beings than humans and even greater beings beyond them and even greater beyond them and so on and so on off into infinite. thats hard for me to say without experienceing it, what were the feelings you were experiencing when this happened, , this universe is vast and life abound outside of our perception, give me the emotional side to it and maybe i can throw in my 2 sensce |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16003162 United States 05/13/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you ask "who do YOU say that jesus christ is?" and then tell someone their answer is wrong? you asked for their opinion...not yours. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix If I say what do you say 2 + 2 is and you say 5 can I say that you arewrong? Yes or no? this is an illogical argument. you asked for someones opinion on who jesus is not a math question. not everyone believes jesus was god. you do, and thats fine but to expect everyone you believe the same as you is absurd. If He is God, your belief that He is not does not make Him not God. |
SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | San, I would like to share a vision I had with you. I know a bunch a bible thumpers and trolls will be all over me for this but I feel like taking about it anyways. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix A few years back I was experimenting with a range of entheogens. I pretty much wanted to try each one that was available in my area so I started with mushrooms, as they were the easiest to get a hold of. I took them with a group of friends and we tripped for a few hours. Nothing too significant. Mostly just color and sound enhancement mixed with a touch of introspective self confrontation. You know, pretty run of the mill. I ended up getting my hands on some LSD and I gave that a go. Same basic trip as the mushrooms but much more intense. Me and a buddy of mine liked it but we wanted to go deeper. We never "broke through," so to speak. So we headed over to our local head shop and picked up some 100X salvia. We didnt have high expectations seeing as how it was legal to buy and the videos on youtube make it look like a kiddy fad. Well, we got back to my place and loaded up a couple bowls and jumped in feet first. I used a torch lighter to really make sure I got a solid burn on it. I drew in a majestic toke and held it until my vision began to vibrate. I let the smoke out slowly and I felt a rush of what felt like liquid energy move from my abdomen up through my chest and neck and into my head. I was immediately pulled from my living room by and invisible force and thrust into the heavens. I was high above a great expanse of flat land filled with people. The people were falling to there knees and bowing in unison and as I turned to try and see what they were bowing to I could make out the silhouette of an enormous humanoid figure above all of us. Just as this silhouette came into view I thrust even higher into a black star filled sky where I could see the curvature of the earth. I could still see the enormous figure but he was surrounded by several other enormous earth sized figures and they were also bowing in unison. Again, I turned to see what it was that they were bowing to and I saw yet another ever more preposterously large figure. The size of this figure was utterly shocking. And once more I was thrust into deeper space where I saw that this gigantic entity was also surrounded by others of equal size. And they too were bowing in honor of something greater than themselves. I was then returned to my reality but the shock stayed with me for months and I still am not exactly sure what I was shown. I know this doesnt really have a lot to do with your original post but you seem like a person who might have some insight into the information I was given that day. if I may .... it seems that you were shown that you (your soul) are but a spark belonging to a over soul which in turn belongs to yet another over soul. yeah, from my summation, I gathered that it was showing me that there are greater beings than humans and even greater beings beyond them and even greater beyond them and so on and so on off into infinite. thats hard for me to say without experienceing it, what were the feelings you were experiencing when this happened, , this universe is vast and life abound outside of our perception, give me the emotional side to it and maybe i can throw in my 2 sensce I guess the only thing that comes to mind is that i was overwhelmed. Half because i wasnt expecting salvia to be anything more than a five minute giggle fest and half because of the things i was seeing. I had the real sensation of being hundreds of miles above the surface of the earth and i suppose that bred a little fear in me. but seeing the entities i saw looming over everyone and the ones looming over them... i would half to say that inspired feelings of insignificance and wonder. DCLXVI |
SixHundredSixtySix User ID: 10365441 United States 05/13/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you ask "who do YOU say that jesus christ is?" and then tell someone their answer is wrong? you asked for their opinion...not yours. Quoting: SixHundredSixtySix If I say what do you say 2 + 2 is and you say 5 can I say that you arewrong? Yes or no? this is an illogical argument. you asked for someones opinion on who jesus is not a math question. not everyone believes jesus was god. you do, and thats fine but to expect everyone you believe the same as you is absurd. If He is God, your belief that He is not does not make Him not God. 'IF' DCLXVI |
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san (OP) User ID: 1862457 United States 05/13/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15763837 if I may .... it seems that you were shown that you (your soul) are but a spark belonging to a over soul which in turn belongs to yet another over soul. yeah, from my summation, I gathered that it was showing me that there are greater beings than humans and even greater beings beyond them and even greater beyond them and so on and so on off into infinite. thats hard for me to say without experienceing it, what were the feelings you were experiencing when this happened, , this universe is vast and life abound outside of our perception, give me the emotional side to it and maybe i can throw in my 2 sensce I guess the only thing that comes to mind is that i was overwhelmed. Half because i wasnt expecting salvia to be anything more than a five minute giggle fest and half because of the things i was seeing. I had the real sensation of being hundreds of miles above the surface of the earth and i suppose that bred a little fear in me. but seeing the entities i saw looming over everyone and the ones looming over them... i would half to say that inspired feelings of insignificance and wonder. sounds amazing beautiful, i dont know what this experience was but its certainly a blessing to be able see beyond his when it happens. i really recommend doing these things in ceramony traditionally as the guardians /shamens have ways of guiding you through deeper aspects of yourself and the cosmos. but at the same time,your spirit is strong and take care of itself id like to try it, but for the moment im stopping as i keep having the identical experience |
Charlie Frost User ID: 1332758 New Zealand 05/13/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your testimony is congruent with many others e.g George Kavasillas, and also with me. I've been going a little crazy lately because a part of me feels these earth changes are about to go into overdrive and that this time is the beginning of the 'end'. I had a powerful vision many years ago that involved a pole shift flood type scenario and I have been trying to explain it in light of what is happening now. Thanks for sharing! Take your dogma and shove it! Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it. |
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san (OP) User ID: 1862457 United States 05/13/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16003162 Most important question of your life. As You Will. Your Will be done. enough with the bible thumping, jesus would burn every bible if he returns also the churches then throw every priest in prison, then forgive them when they understood the errors of thier ways, his way is the light not him to be worshipped, he was the finger pointing to the moon, honor the finger for its guidance but focus on the moon! |