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19th Century Bible has Rothschild parody poem pasted in back

 
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I got this German Bible (made in America) at an estate sale. I found a clipping from a newspaper posted in the back. The owner must have felt strongly to paste it in his/her Bible!

Bible is from about 1888. The parody prayer I've only found once in a newspaper archive from Iowa dated 1886.

Here is the text and the pics of my book are linked below.

JAY GOULD'S PRAYER

Our father, who art in England;
Rothschilds be thy name, thy financial
kingdom come in tho United States
as it is in England. Give us this
day our bonds in gold, but not silver;
give us plenty of laboring men's
votes to keep monopoly in power
and their friends in office. We
know, father, that we have done
many things that were wrong; we
have robbed tho honest poor, and
brought distress to many a door; we
know it was wrong to refund the
bonds and make them payable in
coin; We know it was wrong to
demonetize silver; We know it was
wrong to water all our railroad
stocks; but thou knowest we made
money by that. Now, our father
thou knowest we are above politics.
It is the same to us, whether the
Republicans or Democrats rule, for
thou knowest we are able to sway
all political jobs in our favor. Lend
us not into the way of strikers, but
deliver us from insane Knights of
Labor. Thus shall we have the
kingdom, bonds, interest, power and
gold till the republic shall end-
Amen.—Ex.
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any suggestions for where I can link my pics to?
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Here are the pics...


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thought somebody here may be faintly interested.
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hmm interesting

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I shouldn't have put the word "poem" in the title, I think I lost views right there! LOL
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I shouldn't have put the word "poem" in the title, I think I lost views right there! LOL
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"Rothschild Manifesto" would be a better draw.
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing! hf
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I shouldn't have put the word "poem" in the title, I think I lost views right there! LOL
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Hahaha, it is an American audience you are trying to reach? Poetry is a lost art.

The pic of the text is blurry and small, try a few more shots at a closer range. Multiple shots of the text if you have to. The text is unreadable for my old fart eyes.
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I shouldn't have put the word "poem" in the title, I think I lost views right there! LOL
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"Rothschild Manifesto" would be a better draw.
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I'm not that sharp. lol
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I shouldn't have put the word "poem" in the title, I think I lost views right there! LOL
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Hahaha, it is an American audience you are trying to reach? Poetry is a lost art.

The pic of the text is blurry and small, try a few more shots at a closer range. Multiple shots of the text if you have to. The text is unreadable for my old fart eyes.
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well that's why I typed it. I will try it at work with a better camera.
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How much is this thing worth?
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I don't know. I never checked. They just gave it to me, getting rid of estate stuff, you know how people are.
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I got this German Bible (made in America) at an estate sale. I found a clipping from a newspaper posted in the back. The owner must have felt strongly to paste it in his/her Bible!

Bible is from about 1888. The parody prayer I've only found once in a newspaper archive from Iowa dated 1886.

Here is the text and the pics of my book are linked below.

JAY GOULD'S PRAYER

Our father, who art in England;
Rothschilds be thy name, thy financial
kingdom come in tho United States
as it is in England. Give us this
day our bonds in gold, but not silver;
give us plenty of laboring men's
votes to keep monopoly in power
and their friends in office. We
know, father, that we have done
many things that were wrong; we
have robbed tho honest poor, and
brought distress to many a door; we
know it was wrong to refund the
bonds and make them payable in
coin; We know it was wrong to
demonetize silver; We know it was
wrong to water all our railroad
stocks; but thou knowest we made
money by that. Now, our father
thou knowest we are above politics.
It is the same to us, whether the
Republicans or Democrats rule, for
thou knowest we are able to sway
all political jobs in our favor. Lend
us not into the way of strikers, but
deliver us from insane Knights of
Labor. Thus shall we have the
kingdom, bonds, interest, power and
gold till the republic shall end-
Amen.—Ex.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17092420


What a find! Thank you for sharing and i hope to learn from these words fingering these clowns.
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Pity the internet wasn't around when this guy was. He could've made some valuable contributions.
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I got this German Bible (made in America) at an estate sale. I found a clipping from a newspaper posted in the back. The owner must have felt strongly to paste it in his/her Bible!

Bible is from about 1888. The parody prayer I've only found once in a newspaper archive from Iowa dated 1886.

Here is the text and the pics of my book are linked below.

JAY GOULD'S PRAYER

Our father, who art in England;
Rothschilds be thy name, thy financial
kingdom come in tho United States
as it is in England. Give us this
day our bonds in gold, but not silver;
give us plenty of laboring men's
votes to keep monopoly in power
and their friends in office. We
know, father, that we have done
many things that were wrong; we
have robbed tho honest poor, and
brought distress to many a door; we
know it was wrong to refund the
bonds and make them payable in
coin; We know it was wrong to
demonetize silver; We know it was
wrong to water all our railroad
stocks; but thou knowest we made
money by that. Now, our father
thou knowest we are above politics.
It is the same to us, whether the
Republicans or Democrats rule, for
thou knowest we are able to sway
all political jobs in our favor. Lend
us not into the way of strikers, but
deliver us from insane Knights of
Labor. Thus shall we have the
kingdom, bonds, interest, power and
gold till the republic shall end-
Amen.—Ex.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17092420


He was Born about 15 miles from me up here. I am very appreciative of this "poem"


Jay Gould
Born: 27-May-1836 [1]
Birthplace: Roxbury, NY
Died: 2-Dec-1892
Location of death: New York City
Cause of death: Tuberculosis
Remains: Buried, Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx, NY

Gender: Male
Religion: Presbyterian
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Business
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Railroad baron owned Union Pacific

The American financier Jay Gould was born in Roxbury, Delaware county, New York, on the 27th of May 1836. He was brought up on his father's farm, studied at Hobart Academy, and though he left school in his sixteenth year, devoted himself assiduously thereafter to private study, chiefly of mathematics and surveying, at the same time keeping books for a blacksmith for his board. For a short time he worked for his father in the hardware business; in 1852-6 he worked as a surveyor in preparing maps of Ulster, Albany and Delaware counties in New York, of Lake and Geauga counties in Ohio, and of Oakland county in Michigan, and of a projected railway line between Newburgh and Syracuse, New York. An ardent anti-renter in his boyhood and youth, he wrote A History of Delaware County and the Border Wars of New York, containing a Sketch of the Early Settlements in the County, and A History of the Late Anti-Rent Difficulties in Delaware (Roxbury, 1856). He then engaged in the lumber and tanning business in western New York, and in banking at Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. In 1863 he married Miss Helen Day Miller, and through her father, Daniel S. Miller, he was appointed manager of the Rensselaer & Saratoga railway, which he bought up when it was in a very bad condition, and skilfully reorganized; in the same way he bought and reorganized the Rutland & Washington railway, from which he ultimately realized a large profit. In 1859 he removed to New York City, where he became a broker in railway stocks, and in 1868 he was elected president of the Erie railway, of which by shrewd strategy he and Jim Fisk had gained control in July of that year. The management of the road under his control, and especially the sale of $5M of fraudulent stock in 1868-70, led to litigation begun by English bondholders, and Gould was forced out of the company in March 1872 and compelled to restore securities valued at about $7.5 million. It was during his control of the Erie that he and Fisk entered into a league with the Tweed Ring, they admitted Tweed to the directorate of the Erie, and Tweed in turn arranged favorable legislation for them at Albany. With Tweed, Gould was cartooned by Thomas Nast in 1869. In October 1871 Gould was the chief bondsman of Tweed when the latter was held in $1 million bail. With Fisk in August 1869 he began to buy gold in a daring attempt to "corner" the market, his hope being that, with the advance in price of gold, wheat would advance to such a price that western farmers would sell, and there would be a consequent great movement of breadstuffs from West to East, which would result in increased freight business for the Erie road. His speculations in gold, during which he attempted through President Ulysses S. Grant's brother-in-law, A. H. Corbin, to influence the President and his secretary General Horace Porter, culminated in the panic of "Black Friday", on the 24th of September 1869, when the price of gold fell from 162 to 135 dollars.

Gould gained control of the Union Pacific, from which in 1883 he withdrew after realizing a large profit. Buying up the stock of the Missouri Pacific he built up, by means of consolidations, reorganizations, and the construction of branch lines, the "Gould System" of railways in the Southwestern states. In 1880 he was in virtual control of 10,000 miles of railway, about one-ninth of the railway mileage of the United States at that time. Besides, he obtained a controlling interest in the Western Union Telegraph Company, and after 1881 in the elevated railways in New York City, and was intimately connected with many of the largest railway financial operations in the United States for the twenty years following 1868. Hedied of consumption and of mental strain on the 2nd of December 1892, his fortune at that time being estimated at $72 million; all of this he left to his own family.

His eldest son, George Jay Gould (b. 1864), was prominent also as an owner and manager of railways, and became president of the Little Rock & Fort Smith railway (1888), the St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern railway (1893), the International & Great Northern railway (1893), the Missouri Pacific railway (1893), the Texas & Pacific railway (1893), and the Manhattan Railway Company (1892); he was also vice-president and director of the Western Union Telegraph Company. It was under his control that the Wabash system became transcontinental and secured an Atlantic port at Baltimore; and it was he who brought about a friendly alliance between the Gould and the Rockefeller interests.

The eldest daughter, Hellen Miller Gould (b. 1868), became widely known as a philanthropist, and particularly for her generous gifts to American army hospitals in the war with Spain in 1898 and for her many contributions to New York University, to which she gave $250,000 for a library in 1895 and $100,000 for a Hall of Fame in 1900.
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How much is this thing worth?
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***Priceless
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You have a gold mine in your hands OP. This could sell for millions if you auction it properly and it gets enough publicity. Just basic newspaper clippings from that era sell in the thousand and this is a bible with a clipping of a poem about the Rothschild. Dont lose it and get it properly auctioned or sell it to a private collector. If you dont wana sell it then keep it locked in a bank vault. In a few more decades this would become even more valuable. Good luck and great find!

ohyeah
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I'd put it on Ebay and every other internet auction site immediatley then HIDE IT VERY WELL. Cover your ass with this one OP. Seriously.
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I got this German Bible (made in America) at an estate sale. I found a clipping from a newspaper posted in the back. The owner must have felt strongly to paste it in his/her Bible!

Bible is from about 1888. The parody prayer I've only found once in a newspaper archive from Iowa dated 1886.

Here is the text and the pics of my book are linked below.

JAY GOULD'S PRAYER

Our father, who art in England;
Rothschilds be thy name, thy financial
kingdom come in tho United States
as it is in England. Give us this
day our bonds in gold, but not silver;
give us plenty of laboring men's
votes to keep monopoly in power
and their friends in office. We
know, father, that we have done
many things that were wrong; we
have robbed tho honest poor, and
brought distress to many a door; we
know it was wrong to refund the
bonds and make them payable in
coin; We know it was wrong to
demonetize silver; We know it was
wrong to water all our railroad
stocks; but thou knowest we made
money by that. Now, our father
thou knowest we are above politics.
It is the same to us, whether the
Republicans or Democrats rule, for
thou knowest we are able to sway
all political jobs in our favor. Lend
us not into the way of strikers, but
deliver us from insane Knights of
Labor. Thus shall we have the
kingdom, bonds, interest, power and
gold till the republic shall end-
Amen.—Ex.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17092420


[link to texashistory.unt.edu]

hey lookie there! The Southern Mercury, Texas Farmers' Alliance Advocate. (Dallas, Tex.), Vol. 9, No. 20, Ed. 1 Thursday, May 15, 1890

republicans had only been around the whitehouse for 20 years at that point. amazing how accurate it still is today, 130 years later.
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ooh and a zoom link, good work website guy.

[link to texashistory.unt.edu]

bottom right

hiding
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silver in the eyes


moon shine
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I read the first 2 lines and decided not to go any further... Those who took part in this..
DESTROY THEM ALL
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also in los angeles herald monday morning july 7 1890
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Thanks for sharing this OP.

This poem is a tangible reminder that the Rothschilds and their ilk have been taking this nation down, one brick at a time, for quite a while now.

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Daniel S

It seems you have something you'd like to say.

Your post here and in the horse at sea thread has drawn my attention.

What do you have to say, unveiled
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Daniel S

It seems you have something you'd like to say.

Your post here and in the horse at sea thread has drawn my attention.

What do you have to say, unveiled
 Quoting: rae 1013438


colloidal silver put in the eyes of newborn babies to prevent sexually transmited diseases from being transfered from the mother to her newborn


late 19th early 20th century practice
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Its not a Rothschild poem, but rather a Rotschild prayer.
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Its not a Rothschild poem, but rather a Rotschild prayer.
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And it is total bullshit. Come on people find some o worth.
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Very interesting, OP.

IF this parody prayer is really so old, it is discouraging how long these problems have been known and how little progress has been made to correct them.

I agree with the other poster that you may have a goldmine on your hands with that book. It will all depend on the age of that cut-out article, most likely. Even though it is an old parody prayer, it could have been reprinted recently. Typesetting details and analysis of the paper and glue will confirm its age.

Maybe a year from now you will be retired in comfort :)
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As an American, I object to the crack about poetry.
I learned many limericks as a child,
and can still quote them.





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