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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21416459 United States 12/05/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check your local laws. But this is how it works in Texas and South Carolina. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17202531 I got a payday loan to help pay for medication for my son. I kept paying the maintenance fee weekly until I could pay it. When I moved back to Texas I pulled my money out if the checking account. I kept the account open so I could eventually pay off the loan. Late fees kept piling up but since I had no overdraft protection they couldn't charge it. I was talking to a buddy who had the same issue and as it turns out, a payday loan is not considered a hot check. The law treats this differently than credit cards. It is simply a loan that is defaulted on. As long as the account tied to your payday loan remains open, even if you have no balance, they cannot claim fraud since you didn't close the account on the loan. In other words, they can literally not recover the money. When they threatened to put it on my credit report I told them I would tell everyone I know who has payday loans with them how to get out of paying it. That was a year ago and it's still not on my credit reports. good luck ever getting a loan again |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29161766 United States 12/05/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are part of the problem. To throw your son in as an excuse is horrifying. This is what America has come to, people doing what they feel is justified instead of doing what is right. you need to change your direction and stop playing the i'm a victim card. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27310937 United States 12/05/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Translation: I have fucked over my family and friends so many times by never repaying them for money I have borrowed that the only money I can get is to go to a high risk lender (i.e. someone who still will offer you a loan despite the fact that you are a known dead beat at a rate worth the risk of yet another default on your part so you can buy some kind of ADHD mind altering drug for your bastard child to zombify him/her/it so you can watch dancing with the stars/bang a loser/snort meth, so fuck them for being stupid enough to bail my loser ass out yet again, I ain't paying. Does that about sum it up? |
Meggarea User ID: 1585244 United States 12/05/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's theft the crazy percentage rates they charge on that "LOAN". legalized loan sharking... You make the choice to accept those terms when you get the loan. Nobody forced you to go there. Nobody made those bad choices for you, you did it to yourself. I got caught up so badly with those payday loans I had to file bankruptcy. Also, the bank closed my account for me once the overdraft fees from the repeatedly returned payday checks got too high. So don't count on those accounts staying open, either. Anyone who does not pay money back they borrowed is a thief. Pure and simple. Thievery gets you the worst karma, too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28970751 Australia 12/05/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check your local laws. But this is how it works in Texas and South Carolina. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17202531 I got a payday loan to help pay for medication for my son. I kept paying the maintenance fee weekly until I could pay it. When I moved back to Texas I pulled my money out if the checking account. I kept the account open so I could eventually pay off the loan. Late fees kept piling up but since I had no overdraft protection they couldn't charge it. I was talking to a buddy who had the same issue and as it turns out, a payday loan is not considered a hot check. The law treats this differently than credit cards. It is simply a loan that is defaulted on. As long as the account tied to your payday loan remains open, even if you have no balance, they cannot claim fraud since you didn't close the account on the loan. In other words, they can literally not recover the money. When they threatened to put it on my credit report I told them I would tell everyone I know who has payday loans with them how to get out of paying it. That was a year ago and it's still not on my credit reports. I just don't think that is ethical. It's not about cheating the system, its about making a fair system for everyone. If you made an agreement, and signed it with YOUR name, you have to pay that sucker off. That debt WILL follow you, and will eventually fuck you up. Thats the deal in Australia anyway. Your laws are different state to state. |
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Meggarea User ID: 1585244 United States 12/05/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It isn't legal. The payday loan place as well as the bank will not only ruin your credit, but they will have a legal right to any property you own (car or house), as well as any monies you ever receive. They will garnish your wages, and charge you for fines, fees, and penalties. It's the stupidest thing you could do. |
DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith User ID: 1503533 United States 12/05/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember, the government considers stealing competition, so I'd settle down and stop bragging. (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29092468 United States 12/05/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who are citing future Karma...it's real! don't believe it?...just ask a co-worker of mine...seems he thought he would get over on the state taxes he owed, and he did...for a while.... his current landlord is raising his rent to far more than he can afford, so he decides to buy a house....BAM!!! he has a $25,000 lien on his credit that will have to be paid before *anyone will even consider him for a home loan...when he told me, I said "Karma's a BITCH ain't it" *this is what the loan officer told him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28970751 Australia 12/05/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who are citing future Karma...it's real! don't believe it?...just ask a co-worker of mine...seems he thought he would get over on the state taxes he owed, and he did...for a while.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29092468 his current landlord is raising his rent to far more than he can afford, so he decides to buy a house....BAM!!! he has a $25,000 lien on his credit that will have to be paid before *anyone will even consider him for a home loan...when he told me, I said "Karma's a BITCH ain't it" *this is what the loan officer told him. Do you honestly think not paying taxes will garner universal Karma? What are you, the Government? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29092468 United States 12/05/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who are citing future Karma...it's real! don't believe it?...just ask a co-worker of mine...seems he thought he would get over on the state taxes he owed, and he did...for a while.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29092468 his current landlord is raising his rent to far more than he can afford, so he decides to buy a house....BAM!!! he has a $25,000 lien on his credit that will have to be paid before *anyone will even consider him for a home loan...when he told me, I said "Karma's a BITCH ain't it" *this is what the loan officer told him. Do you honestly think not paying taxes will garner universal Karma? What are you, the Government? You know "Flo" I could spend time typing out a long reply but, life's too short for that Sooooo JUST FUCK OFF! |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 12/05/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check your local laws. But this is how it works in Texas and South Carolina. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17202531 I got a payday loan to help pay for medication for my son. I kept paying the maintenance fee weekly until I could pay it. When I moved back to Texas I pulled my money out if the checking account. I kept the account open so I could eventually pay off the loan. Late fees kept piling up but since I had no overdraft protection they couldn't charge it. I was talking to a buddy who had the same issue and as it turns out, a payday loan is not considered a hot check. The law treats this differently than credit cards. It is simply a loan that is defaulted on. As long as the account tied to your payday loan remains open, even if you have no balance, they cannot claim fraud since you didn't close the account on the loan. In other words, they can literally not recover the money. When they threatened to put it on my credit report I told them I would tell everyone I know who has payday loans with them how to get out of paying it. That was a year ago and it's still not on my credit reports. Thief. Value, moral and ethics system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28970751 Australia 12/05/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who are citing future Karma...it's real! don't believe it?...just ask a co-worker of mine...seems he thought he would get over on the state taxes he owed, and he did...for a while.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29092468 his current landlord is raising his rent to far more than he can afford, so he decides to buy a house....BAM!!! he has a $25,000 lien on his credit that will have to be paid before *anyone will even consider him for a home loan...when he told me, I said "Karma's a BITCH ain't it" *this is what the loan officer told him. Do you honestly think not paying taxes will garner universal Karma? What are you, the Government? You know "Flo" I could spend time typing out a long reply but, life's too short for that Sooooo JUST FUCK OFF! But really? |
letsgetnihilistic User ID: 26617053 United States 12/05/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turnabout is fair play. Kudos to the OP. "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin "Freedom, baby...is never having to say you're sorry."-The Devil's Advocate "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell "If I shall exist eternally, how shall I exist tomorrow?"-Franz Kafka |
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letsgetnihilistic User ID: 26617053 United States 12/05/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a nihilist. "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin "Freedom, baby...is never having to say you're sorry."-The Devil's Advocate "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell "If I shall exist eternally, how shall I exist tomorrow?"-Franz Kafka |
Chris12138 User ID: 28445975 United States 12/05/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Translation: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27310937 I have fucked over my family and friends so many times by never repaying them for money I have borrowed that the only money I can get is to go to a high risk lender (i.e. someone who still will offer you a loan despite the fact that you are a known dead beat at a rate worth the risk of yet another default on your part so you can buy some kind of ADHD mind altering drug for your bastard child to zombify him/her/it so you can watch dancing with the stars/bang a loser/snort meth, so fuck them for being stupid enough to bail my loser ass out yet again, I ain't paying. Does that about sum it up? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28008747 United States 12/05/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's theft the crazy percentage rates they charge on that "LOAN". legalized loan sharking... You make the choice to accept those terms when you get the loan. Nobody forced you to go there. Nobody made those bad choices for you, you did it to yourself. I got caught up so badly with those payday loans I had to file bankruptcy. Also, the bank closed my account for me once the overdraft fees from the repeatedly returned payday checks got too high. So don't count on those accounts staying open, either. Anyone who does not pay money back they borrowed is a thief. Pure and simple. Thievery gets you the worst karma, too. You didn't pay back the money you borrowed. You went BK and didn't pay back. Hypocrite, you don't even realize this. I can't believe the self righteous assholes on this thread, defending the payday lender as a moral imperative. The payday loan comes with whatever its specified and legal repayment and default provisions are. According to AC this is the legal default provision. The law is being followed. Save your morality for something else. On second thought you're morons who lack morality and perspective. And BTW I am a Romney voter, highly against those who take advantage of entitlements, etc. Check my posts, it's a while since I've been banned so there should be some history ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499591 Netherlands 12/05/2012 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "yeah it is still theft" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28947938 Come on, your average CITY-LEVEL politician is stealing TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, even in small towns! These pay day advance places are known fronts for criminal organizations or at least very shady and unscrupulous characters "yeah it is still theft" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28947938 Come on, your average CITY-LEVEL politician is stealing TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, even in small towns! These pay day advance places are known fronts for criminal organizations or at least very shady and unscrupulous characters That thinking is the source of all mess, u dont realize that they just think as you only other figures, u could be one of them,nice |
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letsgetnihilistic User ID: 26617053 United States 12/05/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: letsgetnihilistic One of the faggy europeans from Big Lebowski? Nah, just one of those people smart enough to realize that morality has no basis in nature or reality and is a human construct. "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin "Freedom, baby...is never having to say you're sorry."-The Devil's Advocate "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."-George Orwell "If I shall exist eternally, how shall I exist tomorrow?"-Franz Kafka |