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Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 17494015 United States 06/06/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. I hope the thread isn't overly intimidating in its format; certainly not it's content. Thanks fer the 5*'s, ya'll! I do very much hope there are other young physics-inclined individuals on GLP...Perhaps the female sort. Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Starsandfunk User ID: 8422525 United Kingdom 06/06/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Well every single response written by this poster is pure rubbish, and largely contains outright lies. But rather than waste my time debunking all of his nonsense, i'm going to point out one simple example in order to discredit everything else this poster has said. 2./a. 'Misunderstanding Basic Physics' In this section, the 'Alabama drop out poster' accused Bob (a real Physicist) of taking harafraud out of context and posts this message for Bob: "Listen again to what you oh-so-slyly took out of context with a not-so-subtle misquotation: Nassim is clearly heard to say, "some of the first laws of physics". Glad I could clear it up." Yet if you visit the video on youtube, you find that Bob is 100% correct because at the 03.00 mark, haramein, with a knowing smug look on his face slowly and CLEARLY SAYS: "THE FIRST LAW OF PHYSICS" (visit the link below) [link to www.youtube.com] Glad I COULD clear it up :) Suggest you go back to school Mr Dropout. |
Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 17494015 United States 06/06/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Well every single response written by this poster is pure rubbish, and largely contains outright lies. Quoting: Starsandfunk 8422525 But rather than waste my time debunking all of his nonsense, i'm going to point out one simple example in order to discredit everything else this poster has said. 2./a. 'Misunderstanding Basic Physics' In this section, the 'Alabama drop out poster' accused Bob (a real Physicist) of taking harafraud out of context and posts this message for Bob: "Listen again to what you oh-so-slyly took out of context with a not-so-subtle misquotation: Nassim is clearly heard to say, "some of the first laws of physics". Glad I could clear it up." Yet if you visit the video on youtube, you find that Bob is 100% correct because at the 03.00 mark, haramein, with a knowing smug look on his face slowly and CLEARLY SAYS: "THE FIRST LAW OF PHYSICS" (visit the link below) [link to www.youtube.com] Glad I COULD clear it up :) Suggest you go back to school Mr Dropout. I've a sneaking suspicion that you did not read, or perhaps did not assimilate, the entirety of the post. Care to address any (you could just pick a single one) of my "pure rubbish" or my "outright lies", or are we going to wallow in baseless, ad hominem assertions? There is, in fact, not a single written observation in my initial post that is not independently verifiable by reproducible experiments conducted by the referenced PhD's over the last 150 years. You need merely read the paper; most of my objectives, in fact, consist of the experiments and discoveries of previous PhD's pertaining to relativity and quantum mechanics producing supporting evidence for the Haramein Rauscher theory. When you read the paper, if you have a leg to stand on in the given subject field, get back to me. Cheers, PM Last Edited by Piscesian Misesian on 06/06/2012 01:38 PM Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Starsandfunk User ID: 8422525 United Kingdom 06/06/2012 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Well, as you failed to read it the first time (even when you quoted it??) - here it is again - let's see if you can read it this time. 2./a. 'Misunderstanding Basic Physics' In this section, the 'Alabama drop out poster' accused Bob (a real Physicist) of taking harafraud out of context and posts this message for Bob: "Listen again to what you oh-so-slyly took out of context with a not-so-subtle misquotation: Nassim is clearly heard to say, "some of the first laws of physics". Glad I could clear it up." Yet if you visit the video on youtube, you find that Bob is 100% correct because at the 03.00 mark, haramein, with a knowing smug look on his face slowly and CLEARLY SAYS: "THE FIRST LAW OF PHYSICS" (visit the link below) [link to www.youtube.com] Glad I COULD clear it up :) Suggest you go back to school Mr Dropout. |
Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 6801819 United States 06/07/2012 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1673157 Canada 06/07/2012 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. OP, since you're so well versed in physics why not aid the OP of the thread at Thread: Can anyone help me decipher what this "sign" says? I found this "Tomb" in the cemetary... It may have an important message for me! |
SevenThunders User ID: 15851599 United States 06/07/2012 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Sorry to burst your bubble but all you are working with are models, nothing more. None of you will ever even scratch the surface of the truth until the Lord returns. There are actual disciplined ways to statistically determine parameters for low order models, but I suspect it would be nearly impossible to gather sufficient data to approach your problems this way. It's especially troublesome if success means that you've proposed the best model as determined by the consensus of an un-elected group of elite physicists. ie your physics is determined by the consensus of ecclesiastical body. Might as well go back to the catholic church fathers to settle your quarrels. Now if you can come up with a useful model I can use to make stuff, then please do. Moreover I don't care if your model involves the use of chicken entrails or plastic toy figurines as long as it works for it's defined scope. Otherwise stop the ad-hominem attacks. It's very petty, and brings dishonor to an otherwise very respectable field of science. With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible |
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Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 6801819 United States 06/07/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Glad my PhD is in electrical engineering and not in physics. You guys argue physics as though it was some point in theology and as though all heretics must be burned at the stake. Quoting: SevenThunders ... Now if you can come up with a useful model I can use to make stuff, then please do. Moreover I don't care if your model involves the use of chicken entrails or plastic toy figurines as long as it works for it's defined scope. Otherwise stop the ad-hominem attacks. It's very petty, and brings dishonor to an otherwise very respectable field of science. As for my tone in addressing Bob's original gem of insight, I regret being so sharp with Bob. I saw him attacking a physicist whom I have the utmost respect for, and responded in kind. I stooped to his level. Perhaps as I get older, age will temper me. If you've read and are able to comprehend the Schwarzschild Proton, you will see some rather profound implications, specifically applicable to gravitic energy sources and propulsion. The technology that could be derived from the theory would essentially mean we would never have to combust a fossil fuel again, for any reason. Zero emission, zero sound, highly stable, orders of magnitude more efficient, fast, and maneuverable vehicles. I would argue that the model is useful. Moreover, it is the standard model, which I so vehemently argue against, which "involves the use of chicken entrails [and] plastic toy figurines". The standard model is missing over 98% of the mass required for our universe to behave as it observably does. How does the SM patch this? Mystical, magical, unobservable "dark matter" and "dark energy", which we cannot interact with in any way and which has no interaction with electricity or light. Don't get me started on their model of a comet as a "dirty snowball". Last Edited by Piscesian Misesian on 06/07/2012 04:22 PM Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 6801819 United States 06/07/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Haramein is not worth reading, he is a liar and fraud and this paper has never been looked at by anyone and will never be peer-reviewed as it is BS. Quoting: SheldonCooper ...Excellent, constructive contribution. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer Seen it before, seeing it now, will see it again. You seem to be somewhere between stage 1 and 2. Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17545742 United States 06/07/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Haramein is not worth reading, he is a liar and fraud and this paper has never been looked at by anyone and will never be peer-reviewed as it is BS. Quoting: SheldonCooper ...Excellent, constructive contribution. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer Seen it before, seeing it now, will see it again. You seem to be somewhere between stage 1 and 2. Funny you should bring up Hairyman I figured out how he "won" his "best paper in class" as a computer technology symposium. I have downloaded the review form for that organization and confirmed with the organization itself that anyone can write a review and submit it online. Would you please list the link for the organization that awarded him "best physics paper"? I will show you how to confirm that the award s worth absolutely nothing in the real world of science. Thank you in advance. |
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Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 6801819 United States 06/07/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Haramein is not worth reading, he is a liar and fraud and this paper has never been looked at by anyone and will never be peer-reviewed as it is BS. Quoting: SheldonCooper ...Excellent, constructive contribution. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer Seen it before, seeing it now, will see it again. You seem to be somewhere between stage 1 and 2. Funny you should bring up Hairyman I figured out how he "won" his "best paper in class" as a computer technology symposium. I have downloaded the review form for that organization and confirmed with the organization itself that anyone can write a review and submit it online. Would you please list the link for the organization that awarded him "best physics paper"? I will show you how to confirm that the award s worth absolutely nothing in the real world of science. Thank you in advance. Thank you for your concern, AC. I am not referring to the award he received for his initial draft of the Schwarschild Proton at CASYs 2009, an interdisciplinary conference. You're correct in saying that the award is near inconsequential. Rather, I am referring to Haramein's and Rauscher's final draft, which is currently in the process of being peer reviewed. Despite the award's irrelevance, here you are: [link to scitation.aip.org] Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Piscesian Misesian (OP) User ID: 6801819 United States 06/07/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Why so quiet all of a sudden? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17545742 You didn't think people would figure it out? My dearest hope, AC, is that everyone will figure it out. Also, there is a time-stamp in the top left of every post contributed to this forum for your convenience. Pursue Truth. This hard, tangible thing we call reality: the chair you sit upon, the computer, your beverage, cigarette, the air around you, is composed of 99.99999...% Space. Contrary to popular belief, energy-mass does not define the Space, but rather is defined -by- the Space. The all-permeating Space is a vibrating, infinitely dense medium of geometric discretion; a cube octahedral vector equillibrium. This is the One existence, and the only thing that exists, simultaneously. There is nothing else. We do not live in a "big bang" universe. We do not live in a "created" reality. Our reality is a perpetually -creating- model, and It is aware. Space is aware. I AM aware. "God", some call it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17545742 United States 06/07/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Haramein is not worth reading, he is a liar and fraud and this paper has never been looked at by anyone and will never be peer-reviewed as it is BS. Quoting: SheldonCooper ...Excellent, constructive contribution. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer Seen it before, seeing it now, will see it again. You seem to be somewhere between stage 1 and 2. Funny you should bring up Hairyman I figured out how he "won" his "best paper in class" as a computer technology symposium. I have downloaded the review form for that organization and confirmed with the organization itself that anyone can write a review and submit it online. Would you please list the link for the organization that awarded him "best physics paper"? I will show you how to confirm that the award s worth absolutely nothing in the real world of science. Thank you in advance. Thank you for your concern, AC. I am not referring to the award he received for his initial draft of the Schwarschild Proton at CASYs 2009, an interdisciplinary conference. You're correct in saying that the award is near inconsequential. Rather, I am referring to Haramein's and Rauscher's final draft, which is currently in the process of being peer reviewed. Despite the award's irrelevance, here you are: [link to scitation.aip.org] No you see it is now quite consequential as Hairyman and his goofy goons made a big deal out of the winning of the paper. You now concede that he and his group voted him the award and this is not consequential? I am sorry but that is his scientific death knell as science does NOT suffer fraud at all. How about a list of "peers" that is "currently reviewing" his "final draft" as you have stated? You supporters of half baked fraudsters are a funny lot. And I look forward to any threats of defamation for I have done all the homework. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17551507 United States 06/07/2012 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. I hope the thread isn't overly intimidating in its format; certainly not it's content. Thanks fer the 5*'s, ya'll! Quoting: Piscesian Misesian I do very much hope there are other young physics-inclined individuals on GLP...Perhaps the female sort. It's not intimidating. It's devoid of math. Show your work. |
Starsandfunk User ID: 8422525 United Kingdom 06/08/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. I see you are still failing to address the fact that I proved you lied in section 2./a of your post. You are behaving like a corrupt politician trying to avoid the question.You said: 2./a. 'Misunderstanding Basic Physics' In this section, the 'Alabama drop out poster' accused Bob (a real Physicist) of taking harafraud out of context and posts this message for Bob: "Listen again to what you oh-so-slyly took out of context with a not-so-subtle misquotation: Nassim is clearly heard to say, "some of the first laws of physics". Glad I could clear it up." My response is: Yet if you visit the video on youtube, you find that Bob is 100% correct because at the 03.00 mark, haramein, with a knowing smug look on his face slowly and CLEARLY SAYS: "THE FIRST LAW OF PHYSICS" (visit the link below) [link to www.youtube.com] And when you visit the link you will find I have pointed this out on youtube - it is the top comment. As you say, these posst are time stamped, so every time to fail to address my point, there's a record of it :) |
Starsandfunk User ID: 8422525 United Kingdom 06/08/2012 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: A Counter-refutation concerning quantum mechanics and Haramein/Rauscher's theory for Bob. We needn't have this conversation again, Bob. Haramein is not worth reading, he is a liar and fraud and this paper has never been looked at by anyone and will never be peer-reviewed as it is BS. Quoting: SheldonCooper ...Excellent, constructive contribution. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer Seen it before, seeing it now, will see it again. You seem to be somewhere between stage 1 and 2. And all lies pass through stage 1 too. And remember, haramein is proven to be a liar and fraud. I rest my case. |