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Major_Payne User ID: 7425974 United States 06/29/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder was all but proven innocent by a recent article in Fortune Magazine. A real investigative journalist went to the source and got the real story you wont see on Fox. Read the article and decide for yourself. Quoting: Major_Payne [link to features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com] So you would think Holder would be more than happy to provide all the facts to Congress then, wouldn't you. So what are Holder and his boss trying to hide then? Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. I notice on every thread that you fight hard for the current administration..... I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2926765 United States 06/29/2012 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18794919 So you would think Holder would be more than happy to provide all the facts to Congress then, wouldn't you. So what are Holder and his boss trying to hide then? Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. I notice on every thread that you fight hard for the current administration..... I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. Good response. you guys are good..... |
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SEM User ID: 9596450 United States 06/29/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm totally shocked......NOT. One thing after another, reach for our anckles and say "Thank you gov. may we have another & many more" Doesn't matter we're all up in arms but no one in the streets so let the people continue to get FUCKED Ben Franklin " What you have is a republic...IF you can keep it" Well........We all know the answer to that statement do we not? LMAO Not "We The People" but "We the Slaves" |
CtYankee User ID: 11653208 United States 06/29/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Affirmative acion got my father laid off from Yale Press because the only black man didn't want to be alone....so 15years out the window and my father is without a job.....fuck Affirmative acion and those it protects Last Edited by CtYankee on 06/29/2012 06:21 PM CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
SEM User ID: 9596450 United States 06/29/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now he can focus on making sure Republicans can't suppress the vote. They are the vote stealer's, just ask Ron Paul supporters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18665780 Keep drinking the koolaid, returd. I'm a conservative and sad to say they are just as bad as the Dems are. There are only a few standouts within them. C'mon all this shit going on and Boenner ( Bonna ) sits on his ass doing NOTHING. They just pushed the student loan bill to O'dickheads desk for the Dictator to approve another few Billion dollars or whatever. Fuck them all for fucking us those damn bastards. But we fucknuts are just as dumb and we'll forget what they did come Nov and re-vote them all in. Thinking out votes count hahahahaha We're totally screwed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 06/29/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18794919 So you would think Holder would be more than happy to provide all the facts to Congress then, wouldn't you. So what are Holder and his boss trying to hide then? Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. I notice on every thread that you fight hard for the current administration..... I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. You couldn't recognize corruption if it walked up to you and bitch-slapped you across the face. |
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FierySky User ID: 7612693 United States 06/29/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If We the People could get our shit together, we could act to make better choices, but unfortunately, the young won't help cause they are alienated from their elders and they are ignorant. It's a crazy situation. Should have kept control of the education system, people. When we let them take God out of the system and teach all this liberal horseshit, it became impossible to talk to the young people anymore. Now all you get is a big "Fuck You!" for trying. The ungrateful bastards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18794919 United States 06/29/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major_Payne Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. I notice on every thread that you fight hard for the current administration..... I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. You couldn't recognize corruption if it walked up to you and bitch-slapped you across the face. He's not getting paid to recognize corruption. He's getting paid to defend Obama. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18742644 United States 06/29/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Justice? You want justice? The only justice you'll see is what you are willing to take! Implement the wisdom as prescribed by the Declaration of Independence: That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ... all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. [link to www.ushistory.org] |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 06/29/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder was all but proven innocent by a recent article in Fortune Magazine. A real investigative journalist went to the source and got the real story you wont see on Fox. Read the article and decide for yourself. Quoting: Major_Payne [link to features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com] So you would think Holder would be more than happy to provide all the facts to Congress then, wouldn't you. So what are Holder and his boss trying to hide then? Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. Holder "agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee" ONLY if the Committee would not pursue this matter further, regardless of what the Committee heard. Holder's an attorney and knows that offer was bullshit. Furthermore, Holder handpicking a mere 7,600 documents that won't incriminate Holder out of the 140,000 that Congress requested is yet another move that BEGS for contempt ... which is just what Holder got! . |
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Major_Payne User ID: 18828674 United States 06/29/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765 I notice on every thread that you fight hard for the current administration..... I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. You couldn't recognize corruption if it walked up to you and bitch-slapped you across the face. He's not getting paid to recognize corruption. He's getting paid to defend Obama. If I was a paid shill I would have a paid account so I could post those pretty pictures some people are fond of and I could ban people from threads that I post that don't agree with me. |
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Major_Payne User ID: 18828674 United States 06/29/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holder was all but proven innocent by a recent article in Fortune Magazine. A real investigative journalist went to the source and got the real story you wont see on Fox. Read the article and decide for yourself. Quoting: Major_Payne [link to features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com] So you would think Holder would be more than happy to provide all the facts to Congress then, wouldn't you. So what are Holder and his boss trying to hide then? Holder agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee. He already testified 9 times and handed over 7,600 documents relating to the investigation. and Issa still had no evidence of a coverup. What he wouldn't do is let them do a fishing expedition thru DOJ documents until Issa thought he found something. Holder "agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee" ONLY if the Committee would not pursue this matter further, regardless of what the Committee heard. Holder's an attorney and knows that offer was bullshit. Furthermore, Holder handpicking a mere 7,600 documents that won't incriminate Holder out of the 140,000 that Congress requested is yet another move that BEGS for contempt ... which is just what Holder got! . He agreed to talk if they would drop the contempt charge. They could still pursue any other charges that may arise. Also that 140,000 was Issa's wish list. It was later dropped to 13,000 and Holder gave them 7,600 and claimed the rest were Case sensitive material he would discuss with individual members but he was legally obligated to with hold them. |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 06/29/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Major_Payne If I was a paid shill I would have a paid account so I could post those pretty pictures some people are fond of and I could ban people from threads that I post that don't agree with me. . Yeah -- but your technique is to get the thread off topic until it's no longer pinned and then you move on to the next anti-Obama thread to do the same. To that end Maj. Peckerwood, here's one of those "pretty pictures" to help get this thread BACK on topic ;) . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18829753 United States 06/29/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Executive privilege.... Same as Reagan, same as Bush. Bunch of animals, you people are so fucking stupid. When will you animals learn both sides are the same. Work for the same people. You fucking animals deserve what you get. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18641598 No, it's not the same. In the other cases, it involved documents belonging to the WH. In this case it concerns documents created by the Attorney General's office. Executive Privilege does NOT extend to the Justice Department's documents. |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 06/29/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Holder "agreed to sit down and talk with a Congressional committee" ONLY if the Committee would not pursue this matter further, regardless of what the Committee heard. Holder's an attorney and knows that offer was bullshit. Furthermore, Holder handpicking a mere 7,600 documents that won't incriminate Holder out of the 140,000 that Congress requested is yet another move that BEGS for contempt ... which is just what Holder got! . He agreed to talk if they would drop the contempt charge. They could still pursue any other charges that may arise. Also that 140,000 was Issa's wish list. It was later dropped to 13,000 and Holder gave them 7,600 and claimed the rest were Case sensitive material he would discuss with individual members but he was legally obligated to with hold them. . It has taken 18 months to get to this stage, after catching Holder in at least TWO lies to Congress. Why would they want to start the process all over again until they see the documents to see what's in them? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 06/29/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you're okay with Holder and Obama illegally handing out thousands of guns to drug gangs and murderers? Is this what the Democratic Party is supporting now? Mass murder? of course they are ok with it. with all the innocent babies they abort this is right down their alley. |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 8415236 United States 06/29/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on people get a life. The Justice Dept is an agency of the EXECUTIVE Branch. While Congress approved the appointment of Holder it is up to the Pres. to determine whether he remains or not. Absent, any real discussion about the hairbrained scheme that brought this on and when it was hateched it appears to me that this is just another attempt to embarass the current administration by the REPO majority in the HOUSE. Take NOTE not one of those IDIOTS was concerned enough about the country to try and stop this nonsense. Anyone here old enough to remember the "Iran-Contra Affair" during the Reagan Admin? Note carefully that Exec Privilege was invoked and the Dems did not attempt to hold the appropriate Reagan appointee hostage. The DOJ is right in its action. If the HOUSE was serious in the first place it has its remedies which it won't employ because they have accomplished what they wanted. |
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Éireann User ID: 18821623 United States 06/29/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major_Payne I don't post on every thread but when I see an obvious distortion of the truth I feel compelled to add additional facts so readers can make an informed opinion. Do you guys just want a circle jerk where you spout off to others that think like you or would you rather have a healthy debate to challenge your beliefs. If you never challenge your beliefs you will never grow. You couldn't recognize corruption if it walked up to you and bitch-slapped you across the face. He's not getting paid to recognize corruption. He's getting paid to defend Obama. If I was a paid shill I would have a paid account so I could post those pretty pictures some people are fond of and I could ban people from threads that I post that don't agree with me. Every good debate requires a devil's advocate. Without a catalyst or challenge, the ability for humans to learn and accept new information in order to form a broader perspective is not possible. I don't always agree with you, but without you I most likely would not stop to question my sources or my beliefs. Socrates was just cool :) Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446031 United States 06/29/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why r u all so uninformed, This was definately a alphabet agency operation to get rid of cartels, you sit here and take the bait form pundits who claim conspiracy, but the reality is that all mexican prez candidates have stated they are going to back off the cartels to attempt to bring peace to the area, that means it is going to get much worse. IF you dont think some of the smaller factions are cia then you are fools, we were setting them up to battle the others, there is always going to be collateral damage in that scene. Our country took the iniative when Mexico went soft on it, we are the ones who pay for it with a influx of drugs and human trafficing. Should we pull up our skirts, bend over and just take it, or do we fight fire with fire. Yes a border agent died, he signed up to do that, that is the price one pays for putting thier life on the line. Dont blame Holder for something that he had no control in, he just oversees it, there are many chains of command and he probaly is not aware of them till they are over. Any one who argues against this is a fool or jealous of Holders position. Get over yourselfs, you are not going to save the world from your fucking keyboard. |