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HR 4348 PASSES SENATE - OWE IRS $50,000? YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PASSPORT!!!

 
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07/03/2012 12:58 AM
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get the heck out of there

move somewhere else and get a whole NEW passport

you can buy them in certain countries (and apparently here--ask Kim Dotcom)

it only takes living here for 5 years to become a citizen and get a new passport

if you have skills, immigration to NZ is easy

lots of money makes it even easier
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Icelandic passport is the only one worth having. NZ is just another nanny prison. The queen uses it for a maxipad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004342


for a small country we have more rights than you do in the old u.s.a .

millions and millions of people in the usa and you are allowing your govertment to take away your freedom??

now what was that about nz been an (nanny prison)???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15549180


You guys never had any rights to start with. You have always been, overtly, subjects (possessions) of the Queen.
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07/03/2012 12:59 AM
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crazy

and here I thought our right to travel freely was guaranteed

it's unreal how far these fucks have gone to destroy our country & enslave its citizens

but then again they will already take your passport for not paying child support

it's a seriously fucked up world and it's getting worse by the day
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Hell even now if you leave the country to live elsewhere they expect you to pay taxes for like 10 yrs to the USA. I'm like WTF???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18372604


It's rally easy to renounce your US "Citizenship."

They will tell you that your life will become a living hell, but that's just like when you try to quit AOL.... You're better off without it.
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07/03/2012 01:06 AM
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You can always get on a Haitian raft or a Ship Container
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If you are dual national, and hold another country's passport you can still leave the country on that. You can never return to the USA without a US passport, but the US has no jurisdiction over passports issued by other countries.
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07/03/2012 01:09 AM
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Interesting that currently the Federal Debt per person in the USA is averaging around $50K:

[link to www.brillig.com]

shark
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07/03/2012 01:17 AM
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So, what are they going to do...put IRS agents at the borders alongside the border patrol agents? Right.
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07/03/2012 01:19 AM
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The world burns but don't worry

It's a party in the USA


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07/03/2012 01:23 AM
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And what country would be better to live in, if you owed $50,000 and couldn't pay it?

In the US you can get free emergency medical, food stamps, welfare, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12339688


I want to know how people could end up owing that much . Companies maybe . Or they dont pay tax .

Wont be good if you cant afford the new health insurance scheme and then charge you a tax for it . its way too complex
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07/03/2012 01:25 AM
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Interesting that currently the Federal Debt per person in the USA is averaging around $50K:

[link to www.brillig.com]

shark
 Quoting: NDshadows


Lol...I see where this is going . they will make every citizen liable for that debt and no one can leave the country , Why ? , but only illegals can enter ? Why ?
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07/03/2012 01:28 AM
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IRS agents VS AR-15..... I really do not see what the problem is?
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07/03/2012 01:44 AM
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crazy

and here I thought our right to travel freely was guaranteed

it's unreal how far these fucks have gone to destroy our country & enslave its citizens

but then again they will already take your passport for not paying child support

it's a seriously fucked up world and it's getting worse by the day
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Hell even now if you leave the country to live elsewhere they expect you to pay taxes for like 10 yrs to the USA. I'm like WTF???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18372604


It's rally easy to renounce your US "Citizenship."

They will tell you that your life will become a living hell, but that's just like when you try to quit AOL.... You're better off without it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004342


Not anymore, that changed about 2 years ago, I guess Americans slept thru it.

You gotta first pay your back taxes so you can get a passport so you can exit, and be accepted by another country; you gotta be there to renounce which is done at a US consulate. The other country is under no obligation to take you in, so choose wisely, helps if you're educated and rich.

There's a whopping huge exit fee. You have to pay the US govt for the "privilege" of giving up your citizenship.

IOW unless you're really well off, you're fucked, slaves. Lifetime in the lockup, dreaming of the freedom you thought you had.
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07/03/2012 01:52 AM
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Unfortunately since America has a past reputation as being the country everyone wants to go to and not leave, land of freedom yada yada yada, I doubt Americans can claim refugee status anywhere in the world. So fucked.
s. d. butler

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07/03/2012 02:24 AM
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Unfortunately since America has a past reputation as being the country everyone wants to go to and not leave, land of freedom yada yada yada, I doubt Americans can claim refugee status anywhere in the world. So fucked.
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Yes, we will reap what we have sown. The reckoning is going to be terrible.

Thanks america
s. d. butler

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07/03/2012 02:27 AM
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Re: HR 4348 PASSES SENATE - OWE IRS $50,000? YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PASSPORT!!!
Takes effect January 1, 2013.

Passed last Friday when no one was looking.

The IRON CURTAIN is CLOSING AROUND YOU.

[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18993534


Next your passport will be revoked if you have any kind of debt at all. You watch and see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17689298


EXACTLY.
 Quoting: tiger1


Of course that is the natural progression of these soul destroying monsters that have taken hold.
s. d. butler

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07/03/2012 02:31 AM
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Takes effect January 1, 2013.

Passed last Friday when no one was looking.

The IRON CURTAIN is CLOSING AROUND YOU.

[link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18993534


Passports were created against draft dodgers. First real mass population use was in WW1 Germany and France because draftees would just move across the border to avoid being conscripted against each other. Now they're going to use it to prevent you from traveling to do exactly the same thing.

The wall on the Mexican border isn't to keep Mexicans out, it's to keep YOU in. Enjoy your prison.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701


Of course the "wall" will be used to keep people in the prison state.

Thank the clamoring sheeple for the "wall".
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07/03/2012 02:03 PM

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07/07/2012 02:12 AM
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Re: HR 4348 PASSES SENATE - OWE IRS $50,000? YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PASSPORT!!!
Newsmax is reporting that the passport revocation section was removed from the final bill before it was passed. Apparently, this was accomplished by Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner.
I looked up the final text for MAP-21 and the section was not there.

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