Who is the true Freemasonic King? THE TRUTH IS HERE!

For some it will be clear as day and I advise to open the words to large print and read slowly. It is a long read, but very much worth it. It talks all about the Lilly and the Rose and the meaning of the Rose of Sharon and the gathering of the spiritual Body of Christ together as one, etc.

(to make them joint Heirs)

It is the way to enter into the Possession of (Love’s Reign), which will first open and begin from the first gathering, which may be so small as to appear contemptible.

But know it will be as that Stone cut out of the Mountain without Hands, that shall make all other Mountains to melt and bow before it, and worship at the Feet of him, who is the Great Shepherd of this little Flock: whose Pleasure it will be to make them joint Heirs, to possess with him the same Kingdom and Glory, which the Father hath given to him.


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Did you know that his books committed to the flames as impious and heretical just like countless others was ordered to be burnt by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome in A.d. 1059?

I guess this must be a reason why I was a bit hot under my collar at the Catholic Church bro ;) LOL...

The next discussion in which Scotus is said to have taken part occurred shortly afterwards. It has been stated by many writers that he was the first who denied the doctrine of the Real Presence in the Western Church. Certainly, Berengarius, in the eleventh century, claimed Scotus as his i eacher on the new doctrine which he introduced; and the Sacramentarians regarded him as a great apostle of what they called the truth. A book on the Eucharist, attributed to Scotus by Berengarius, was condemned in three synods, and committed to the flames as impious and heretical and the book just like countless others was ordered to be burnt by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome in A.d. 1059

The very words, on account of which Berengarius says the book was ordered to be burnt at the Council of Rome in A.d. 1059, namely—”ea quae in altare consecrantur esse figuram, pignus, et signum Corporis et Sanguinis Christi,” and which were used in a heretical sense by Berengarius but not by their author, are found in the Book of Ratramnus, the MS. of which still bears his name in uncial letters of the tenth century.


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Please tell me what you have learned and based on this, I will give you some ideas on what to do next.

The only king that I'm aware of in my beloved fraternity is King Solomon. In many ways, he could be considered the "King" of the Freemasons, I guess lol.

I think many will judge wrong what they dont understand.
Especially with masonic history, we can compare it to a coach who won every match and won all trophy's but when he loses a match he will be judged as a bad coach by all the supporters.

If he will be the Devil or not can only be judged on his actions once he's known public or atleast known behind the scenes.

Imo

OK, but King Solomon is an allegorical name for King Charles the Bald or Charlemagne.

As they should humble themselves so should you with your: "we can all be morning stars."

Until you understand what humble means, until you ACTUALLY understand what it means, since masons usually have not experienced anything real but have lived most of their lives in a bubble of sorts, being racist and discriminative, that most masons do not understand what humble means and therefore, are not granted eyes to see nor ears to hear.

It's very easy, you know.

their king is the devil(lucifer,baphomet) but don't worry the freemasons lost for now they are useless in their efforts they were really dumb and anger got the better of them and they ended up breaking the rules and you don't break the rules they fucked themselves up and now they will have the devil fucking them for all of eternity and it's going to hurt bad I wouldn't want to trade places with them for anything

ive learned that i am a vessel of god to search for the answer for the god existance possiblity question.

and that we all vessels as well and with out these vessels and with out the greater vessel that house our vessels and with out the lords of law and math than we would just be god, and nothing else and we would also be nothing.

i have tatoo on my right arm. the tatoo simply says "ex nihilo". im scyzophrenic enough to believe this has a meaning, in the grander scale its meaningless.

the answer to the question is that there is no answer, and fuck all of us hahahahaha.

I AM humble when needed be and also the opposite when I deemed fit. “Be as Wise as Serpents, Fierce as Wolves and Gentle as Doves”

Interesting thread!

*BUMP*

"AVERROISM THE COUNCIL OF VIENNE. 113

The famous and subtle Duns Scotus was at
the time disputing in the university, and Lull
attended the lectures. On one occasion Scotus
heard a low murmur of dissent, and saw his
hearer shaking his head. Annoyed at the
interruption, and imagining that he saw before
him some ignorant person, he sought to put him
to public confusion by asking him an element-
ary question in grammar, Dominus qitcc pars ?
" What part (of speech) is Lord ? " Lull in-
stantly answered, " The Lord is no part, but the
whole." Thus began a typical scholastic debate,
in which the combatants won each other's respect
and, finally, friendship. The debate is embalmed
in a tractate, whose title is the question with
which the Subtle Doctor greeted the Illuminated."

certainly. but then im just a student. excellent thread.

EVERYONE can be saved if they choose to.

No, it is not the devil. But anyone who doesn't repent from their sins or evils will face their judgements one way or another ion the coming years. Doesn't matter if you are a Freemason, Christian, Muslim or Atheist.

John is not allegotical. it comes from jani, and janus , which are midsummer celebration names of the sun in Estonia and Latvia. in the first century - as trade for pine and camphor like products reached the Baltics - Romans became aware of the pagan culture. they then stole the pagan ideas, and celebrations, like Xmas and midsummer (hint thats why they say John was born june 24)

the word John - sounds like Jaan/yawn - really is the precursor to the words eon or aeon - meaning eternal/life

thanks for listening

This has always been the problem with all wonderful creations or secrets is most people do not understand and that which they do not understand, they attack. Nothing is new under the sun.

Yet your words in this matter point to you as an authority and not to the Almighty! They point to words written and lines drawn by men as a way to truth, the truth, while it should already be in your heart.

Your incessant use of "I AM" points to even further insanity.

There is no man on this planet, nor is there a word on this planet that comes between you and the Almighty. There is no church, no doctrine, no dogma, no culture, no lodge, no riches not anything needed for a human to seek God. Anyone telling you ANY different is a liar. Anyone pretending that there is, has an agenda.

To those who have tried, painstakingly, to follow Him and His way you are see-through and so are the experiences that have you proclaim what you are proclaiming. It's funny that you still don't get such simple words that bear your life by the letter, I thought freemasons were taught to read between the lines and understand the metaphorical; I see you. I hear you. I don't believe you.

What is sad. Is that people actually look forward to his coming. But little do they know they lose in the end. What is even worse is that they know the outcome. Some here do. Yet they still will not turn Jesus and ask for forgiveness. The head of the Mason's is Satan.

Thanks so much for confirming your interests with a bump

the deceivers are deceived
thinking them selves the elect
look under a bridge
is anybody there?

hiram was the architect of solomons temple....

its a tape, im just waiting for my codes. by the look of the fake clouds wont be long.

on a more serious note - i used to party in Iceland for a few days at a time while making my way back and forth from europe.

it is the only country where the term 'swinging from the rafters' was literally true when one was out partying near Laugavegur

may all your bank accounts be solvent, and no fake debt owed to banksters

Merci beaucoup.

The tongue can be wiser and more deadly than the pen. Just not as sharp.............

Did you know that just like the Masonic legend of Hiram, John Scotus was also murdered by his students who were attempting to unsuccessfully steal his secrets? However, instead of murdering him with Mason Tools like that of the Hiram Abiff legend, they had murdered the Grand Master Scotus with their pen.

Manly P. Hall calls the Grand Master of the Dionysiac Architects, CHiram Abiff, a Widow’s Son and guess what, this same John Scotus had worked on a Latin translation of Dionysius the Areopagite undertaken at the request of Charles the Bald (Charlemagne).

lucifer is the lightbearer...

we need to steal the light from him....

but to do that we need to be smarter than him...

clue...

What I meant is it is not a birth name, but a given one after birth. For example, if your name is Mike and later they change it to John to honor an ancestor or event, the new name of John is an allegorical one to replace the birth name.An allegory has a hidden spiritual meaning that transcends the literal sense of a sacred text.

They were of the Hasmonean dynasty and named after Jonathan Apphus, 153-143 BCE.

* Simeon Tassi, brother of Jonathan Apphus, 142-134 BCE

* John Hyrcanus I, son of Simeon Tassi 134-104 BCE

*Aristobulus I, son of John Hyrcanus, 104-103 BCE

* Alexander Jannaeus, son of John Hyrcanus, 103-76 BCE

* John Hyrcanus II, son of Alexander Jannaeus, 76-66 BCE

* Aristobulus II, son of Alexander Jannaeus, 66-63 BCE

* John Hyrcanus II (restored) 63-40 BCE

* Antigonus, son of Aristobulos II, 40-37 BCE

* Aristobulus III 36 BCE-last of the Hasmoneans; paternal grandson of Aristobulus II and brother of Herod's wife Mariamne (second wife of Herod).

Last Edited by Gnostic Warrior on 08/06/2012 07:40 PM