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My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...

 
EAT
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My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Technically, what kills a person is NOT the Ebola virus.
What kills the person is the 'CYTOKINE STORM'.

SO.... to safegaurd yourself from cytokine storm... make sure you have high levels of vitamin D.

The Cytokine Storm is the immune systems response to the Ebola virus.

I could be wrong... but I could be right.
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Eat, you have yet to be right.. so of course you are wrong
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Eat, you have yet to be right.. so of course you are wrong
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Well... if I am wrong I am wrong.
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Eat, you have yet to be right.. so of course you are wrong
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Well... if I am wrong I am wrong.
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Hmm...if he's right about being wrong then he'd be right but if he's always wrong then we must conclude that he's wrong about about being wrong and therefore right.
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Eat, you have yet to be right.. so of course you are wrong
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Well... if I am wrong I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14116187


Hmm...if he's right about being wrong then he'd be right but if he's always wrong then we must conclude that he's wrong about about being wrong and therefore right.
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Once I thought EAT was right, but I was wrong!
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Meaning, do not take any ibuprofen and/or anti inflammatory if you catch ebola. You'll be signing your death sentence if you do.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Eat, you have yet to be right.. so of course you are wrong
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3798339


Well... if I am wrong I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14116187


Hmm...if he's right about being wrong then he'd be right but if he's always wrong then we must conclude that he's wrong about about being wrong and therefore right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15277493


Once I thought EAT was right, but I was wrong!
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I guess you ringed the Wong number.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
chemo therapy. theres your best preventor.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Tell you what I'm going to do. Drink plenty of vitiman D milk. Not because I'm worried about Ebola but I just love good milk. And if he's wrong I'm still fime
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
One study- [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
-suggests that (at least in pigs) three commonly available OTC drugs can significantly reduce the most fatal effect of cytokine storms (ARDS) when used in combination.

Specifically, the drugs in question were Benadryl (an H1 blocker), Tagamet/cimetidine (an H2 blocker), and Ibuprofen (an antiinflammatory drug).

Most people have at least two and possibly all three of the medications in question in their homes.

It might also be worth noting that some studies suggest Curcumin blocks TNF, so if TNF-alpha inhibitors prove effective, there is at least some possibility of a low-side-effect (mostly heartburn) treatment...

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There are numerous claims online that vitamin D regulates cytokine (immunesystem) responses. Do these claims have any scientific research behind them?

In this case, it is a cascade of signals causing an overreaction of immune response. No vitamin would relieve it, but stronger drugs MIGHT interrupt the cycle of increasing cascade.

Actually there is very strong evidence that vitamin D has a profound influence on the immune system (PubMed) including regulating the production of some cytokines. See for example PubMed, PubMed (TNF-α),PubMed (TGF beta 1), PubMed (IL-10), and PubMed (IL-10).

However in the context of a cytokine storm, vitamin D is useless. For general healthy people, vitamin D is good, for those with some immune dysfunctions (of a substantially lower degree of severity), it may be useful.

For a cytokine storm or even SIRS, it would be useless and even potentially harmful.

There is circumstantial evidence that vitamin D (see PubMed) may reduce the incidence and/or severity of cytokine storm. Vitamin D boosts the innate immune system while damping the adaptive immune system in part by down regulating the production of pro inflammatory cyctokines.

While there is no direct clinical evidence that vitamin D deficient patients are at greater risk of developing cytokine storm, there is strong mechanistic rationale.

Finally, the name vitamin D is somewhat misleading.

Vitamin D is a steroid derived substance that regulates the expression of thousands of genes (including several cytokine genes) through binding to and activating the nuclear hormone receptor VDR. Hence vitamin D is more hormone than vitamin.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sunshine anyone???
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Vitamin D3 BOOSTS the immune response, which is the very cause of a cytokene storm. Those with weaker immune systems dont suffer cytokene storms like healthy strong individuals. Seen it hundreds of times over.
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Thanks, buddy!
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Bacon and vodka.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Bacon and vodka.
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yes please
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Bacon and vodka.
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I like the way you roll.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
chemo therapy. theres your best preventor.
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Paid shill? You gotta be kidding.
I am not a anonymous coward.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Bacon and vodka.
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I like the way you roll.
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I can tell from your signature you're in the know. wink

Bacon is the answer to everything.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
SEEING THAT EBOLA TAKES PLACE IN AFRICA ( WHERE THEY GET SUN ALL DAY LONG)I DON'T THINK VIT D IS GUNNA HELP.


I would take calcium hypoclorite internally -MMS2 if exposed alone with many herbs
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Its not going to spread unless a stupid aid worker who has been unknowingly exposed hops onto a flight and then it spreads big time.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
chemo therapy. theres your best preventor.
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Paid shill? You gotta be kidding.
 Quoting: Haelo


I think he was being ironic. However, from a logical perspective, chemotherapy does suppress immune responses, so even despite his assumed irony, he may be onto something.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Just in case she is wrong. Get enough food and shut your self up in your house for a year. Thats right a year. First wave. Second wave, the worst wave. Third wave. Thats the only way to absolutely not get it. Be a shut in. Masks aren't going to do it for you. Only a hazmut suit.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
SEEING THAT EBOLA TAKES PLACE IN AFRICA ( WHERE THEY GET SUN ALL DAY LONG)I DON'T THINK VIT D IS GUNNA HELP.


I would take calcium hypoclorite internally -MMS2 if exposed alone with many herbs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20583256


Agreed. Being out in the sun all day doesn't appear to put even a dent in most if not all African-originating diseases. The best preventative would be steering clear of people and their bodily fluids. Live out in the country and be self-sufficient. Up in the mountains would be better. A cave would be best, with a spring running down next to it. Just make sure there are no bats. Or bears. (Unless you've got a gun and can kill the bear for food and fur and nifty bone jewelry.}

That is all.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Meaning, do not take any ibuprofen and/or anti inflammatory if you catch ebola. You'll be signing your death sentence if you do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20232564


Ibuprofen is fine. It is acetaminophen and aspirin that will cause these storms.

Here is a good article on this

[link to preventdisease.com]
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Technically, what kills a person is NOT the Ebola virus.
What kills the person is the 'CYTOKINE STORM'.

SO.... to safegaurd yourself from cytokine storm... make sure you have high levels of vitamin D.

The Cytokine Storm is the immune systems response to the Ebola virus.

I could be wrong... but I could be right.
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shut up dickhead
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Rumor has it that bacon bits may help.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Meaning, do not take any ibuprofen and/or anti inflammatory if you catch ebola. You'll be signing your death sentence if you do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20232564


Which means Tylenol, I believe that's right but may be wrong :)
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Agreed. Being out in the sun all day doesn't appear to put even a dent in most if not all African-originating diseases. The best preventative would be steering clear of people and their bodily fluids. Live out in the country and be self-sufficient. Up in the mountains would be better. A cave would be best, with a spring running down next to it. Just make sure there are no bats. Or bears. (Unless you've got a gun and can kill the bear for food and fur and nifty bone jewelry.}

That is all.


Hilarious, thank you for making laugh. Eat has inspired the inner writer in many.
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
selenium protects against ebola
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Re: My advice to you if Ebola is spreading...
Actually I have better advice...


Run.
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