Has society changed in a way that makes monogamous traditional relationships harder to maintain?

yes

Straight to the point.

Just let it go and do something else instead. Become an astronaut!

Sometimes I wish I was born 30 years earlier. My old man often says: "I'm glad I'm old."

They've taken away two expectations for us from God:

1. You're paired by God; you know that He picks your mate.
2.. The union should never be broken in this physical world "Let no man put asunder".

If a person realizes number #1, number #2 would be easy.

But as in the days of Noah, the Sons of God started choosing their own and society broke down. They picked a mate of their own choosing, mates that did not follow God, but men.

I think the problems we see with couples nowadays in the west is that they're trying to uphold outdated customs in a new paradigm which rejects them. You can't expect to liberalize society in the way we're doing and at the same time expect people to maintain the old behavioral patterns just the same.

Yeah. It's called the internet.

I think society is completely f**ked in every aspect.

Nothing can withstand in this whirl pool of egotistic, selfish greed!

Well that's kind of hard to change don't you think?

People are going to cheat, and most are going to hide it.

Not many, if any at all are going to ask their partner for permission to cheat.

I suppose only a new relationship can make up new rules like that and agree upon it.

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I always thought the idea of humans creating faithful man/woman relationships and building healthy families was a noble aspiration, but realistically speaking, with the human capital we possess and the social environment we have built, I honestly deem it unrealistic anymore.

We either go back to how things were before or we have to devise some new functional system that deals with the new circumstances.

You do realize that 50% of marriage succeed right?

Succeed is a loose word, I'd say they "get by". Anyway 50% is not a very encouraging percentage, and I think it will become less with the years. We're going through a paradigm shift, what is uncertain still is what's coming next.

I deal with reality and the current scenario is just not encouraging. I am not inventing anything, I just see that it is becoming increasingly more difficult for people to maintain faithful relationships. And anyway who determined that men had to have only one partner and vice versa? Some book written by bronze age desert tribes?

The truth is that this is only a man made construct, who knows what will arise when these human constructs are trashed into dust.

Sounds to me you're trying to rationalize why its okay to fuck around on your g/f. Noob.

It seems like people start cheating at the 15-20 year mark of being together.
That's what I've noticed with couples, mostly my parents friends.
I have really young parents btw, they got married at 16 and are still together and happy.
A lot of their friends have divorced though.
As my my own age group, all my friends are still happily married, but like I was saying, they havent been together that long, maybe 10 yrs.
So we will see.


Hi Manu!

Ha ha! well not really. Look I have decided I personally do not want a relationship merely because I do not want to have a family. I don't like children and it's not in me to create a family, so why should I follow some pattern that's embedded in society just because everyone else does it or because someone said the voices in his head told him it should be that way thousands of years ago when I have seen clearly that it's not meant for me?

Just imagine how many people who just don't have the capacity to get to this conclusion merely follow tradition like sheep only to find out they just weren't good for being married and have a family? How many children of divorced parents who end up with trashed lives because of psychological problems?

And then what about the possessive behavior of some people who think that because they have a relationship with someone they suddenly own that person, and all the suffering that creates when their preconceptions get crashed by reality?

That little book of yours has created a lot of suffering. People need to learn their place in life as individuals and according to their own personalities, not try to fit like sardines in a can because the good old book says so.

However things need to be orderly placed in some sort of comprehensible system otherwise there will be chaos as people are too stupid to cope with such freedoms.

Hey sweety, I am debating some tards in GLP for the funs, as usual hehe

Well before you say the Bible is mine you should really look at my name lol. Dude honestly, you sound like your maybe 22. Go fuck around. If you really don't want a family get a vasectomy. Run along now.

circumcision.

Oh sorry I must have mistaken you with some of the religtards above.

Manu are you a MGHOW?

People are misinformed of sex. Men are unable to please women because it requires ejaculation control. Men are also circumcised too, so that might make it harder. Women are being sluts too. The fast life is glamorized.

It's WOMEN AND THEIR SHORT SHORTS.

AND MAN'S SHORT FORESKINS LOL.

I just don't like to be in a committed relationship, but that doesn't mean I score like crazy.

Anyways this thread is not about me, it's about how generalized it is becoming to see couples having issues because of cheating or simply because they have no capacity or drive to commit anymore.