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HIGH-RANKING MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL MEMBER MAKES EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATION: ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS

 
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Did you notice from " 2004" ? It wasn't just Obama.
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>>>It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.


well fucking duh?

just like the CIA has been running drugs since the 80's.

are the people really this ignorant, does it take this long for the collective conciousness to wake up.

jeez i knew about this shit when i was 13 in the 1980's.
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AND YOU STUPID SHEEPLE WILL THINK ....OH OK....GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH GUN CONTROL .....

But but ....popmedia said : HIGH-RANKING MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL MEMBER MAKES EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATION: ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS



Baaaaaaaaa....Baaaaaaaaaaaaa....
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A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.

It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.

The explosive allegations are being made by Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator.” He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.

Zambada-Niebla claims that under a “divide and conquer” strategy, the U.S. helped finance and arm the Sinaloa Cartel through Operation Fast and Furious in exchange for information that allowed the DEA, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies to take down rival drug cartels. The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 as long as the intel kept coming.

This pending court case against Zambada-Niebla is being closely monitored by some members of Congress, who expect potential legal ramifications if any of his claims are substantiated. The trial was delayed but is now scheduled to begin on Oct. 9.

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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He'll end up suicided.He talks too much.bump
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Muddy the waters, ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ is during Obama's admin, not Bush
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If they wanted to, our government could stop the flow of drugs. The problen is They are making so much money why would they want to?
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If they wanted to, our government could stop the flow of drugs. The problen is They are making so much money why would they want to?
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It also ensures that specific candidates get they're votes. Pretty shady, that one has to bring in illegal aliens from another country in order to win.
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[link to www.examiner.com]
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Last week it was reported that the State Department and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were deeply involved in the scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious, or Project Gunwalker. Today, however, new evidence has surfaced indicating that not only was Hillary deeply involved in the scandal but was one of the masterminds behind it.
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Did you notice from " 2004" ? It wasn't just Obama.
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sherlock

And that partisan thug Darryl Issa (R-Car Thief) refuses to call ANY witnesses from the Bush years.
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Sounds remarkably familiar.

Give one cartel an advantage against their competition and they share the profits...hmmm.

This country has been involved in drug trade since the Korean War. There is too much money to be made in it. That is why it is a "win-win" for them to leave Marijuana illegal. They get money from the black market suppliers for looking the other way and they get money from the Alcohol lobbyist to keep it illegal.

It is disgusting that our politicians are such whores...but I suppose the old saying is true..."Men...like water, follow the path of least resistance. So you end up with crooked rivers and crooked men"
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Muddy the waters, ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ is during Obama's admin, not Bush
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Gunrunning to Mexico started under bush, not Obama.

:dubya:
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They did that on sons of anarchy!!!! Danny trejo was a CIA operative running the mexican cartel and the sons were trafficking the cocain in exchange of buying massive amounts of guns for the war between the cartels.
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Of course our intelligence agencies run the drug rings/illegal arms trade.

How else would they fund their 'black ops'?
Congress? Lols.
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America no longer has a president, they have a king issuing royal edicts with their abuse of the executive branch.
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Did you notice from " 2004" ? It wasn't just Obama.
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And if you think that is relavent, you fail to see the G-rand agenda.

It matters not if is is Mitt or Barack...

Ron Paul will set this right. Make your vote really count this time.
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Sounds remarkably familiar.

Give one cartel an advantage against their competition and they share the profits...hmmm.

This country has been involved in drug trade since the Korean War. There is too much money to be made in it. That is why it is a "win-win" for them to leave Marijuana illegal. They get money from the black market suppliers for looking the other way and they get money from the Alcohol lobbyist to keep it illegal.

It is disgusting that our politicians are such whores...but I suppose the old saying is true..."Men...like water, follow the path of least resistance. So you end up with crooked rivers and crooked men"
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Aye the path of least resistance is a straight line... these people dont tow the line thats why they are known as crooked.
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the cia doesnt like competition in the drug trade.
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Come on, our politicians are decent hardworking and honest people

(p.s. here come the nurse with my meds)
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Here is a reminder of how the White House is trying to cover it up-



President Obama granted Attorney General Eric Holder executive privilege on the matter, while the head of the House panel overseeing government conduct moved forward with proceedings to hold the nation's top law enforcement official in contempt of Congress.

By asserting executive privilege, the Justice Department can withhold documents from Congress, even if Congress has issued a subpoena, as the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Another possible explanation;

The DEA and CIA, which we all know, both operate outside of any executive control attempted to frame the administration with the fast and furious scandal, and Obama used s trump card called executive privelege, to prevent fabricated evidence from being used against him.

It amazes me how selective you all are about what you believe and disbelieve regarding the shit reported in the media.

There's a sucker born every minute.
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So, by your logic... Enabling the justice department to withhold their documents via executive privilege is protecting them from fabricating their own evidence against them?
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LOL. Sweet ass sweet dissection of a ridiculous argument.

Thumbs up to the OP.
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The Sinaloa Cartel is run by "Shorty El Chapo" Guzman the most powerful drug lord in the worlds history. And it's impossible that the govt isn't helping him. He's also on the Forbes Billionaire list
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Filthy sons of bitches....they will burn in hell......wouldn't it be cheaper just to legalize drugs in Mexico .....of course it would
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Did you notice from " 2004" ? It wasn't just Obama.
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Why is everyone ignoring the fact that it states 2004-2009, Hmmm, who was President during those years?
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That's a crazy story SG. Not surprising, once you understand how governments work...but still dispicable. It seems it went back to the Bush Admin. Also not surprising, but still disturbing.

What do you make of it all SG? Maybe that's why Obama used executive privilege?
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>>>It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.


well fucking duh?

just like the CIA has been running drugs since the 80's.

are the people really this ignorant, does it take this long for the collective conciousness to wake up.

jeez i knew about this shit when i was 13 in the 1980's.
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ohyeah
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Gotta love where all our precious tax money is going to. Helping provoke wars and drug problems.
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Filthy sons of bitches....they will burn in hell......wouldn't it be cheaper just to legalize drugs in Mexico .....of course it would
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Fuck Mexicos legalization, legalize them in the states, cut the motherfkn head off the snake...
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That's a crazy story SG. Not surprising, once you understand how governments work...but still dispicable. It seems it went back to the Bush Admin. Also not surprising, but still disturbing.

What do you make of it all SG? Maybe that's why Obama used executive privilege?
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Daddy Bush is still runnin the show.
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That's a crazy story SG. Not surprising, once you understand how governments work...but still dispicable. It seems it went back to the Bush Admin. Also not surprising, but still disturbing.

What do you make of it all SG? Maybe that's why Obama used executive privilege?
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Daddy Bush is still runnin the show.
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You mean still to this day? He has more power than Bammy?
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>>>It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.


well fucking duh?

just like the CIA has been running drugs since the 80's.

are the people really this ignorant, does it take this long for the collective conciousness to wake up.

jeez i knew about this shit when i was 13 in the 1980's.
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Yep, Yep the United States Gov't has been the biggest drug dealer since they took over the modern world. IT IS THE ONLY REASON WE ARE IN AFGHANISTAN......HEROIN BABY!
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