For me there is no question , NASA and Russians and soon Chinese , have or will have ability to reach Mars.. sometimes without sometimes with success.. That is no question.

Question is is credibility of those agencies , especially NASA.. Russians as well..

That is simply proven failure..

we are being informed and treated just like a little kids and on top of that we are getting more then often false information.. And then people argue about it while whole subject is false..

And etc... It is really getting boring , only thing certain is doom in many shapes and forms..

And that is simply altogether an insult to an intelligence..