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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 As opposed to what? What should we do with the all the dead babies the leftists kill? Let me ask you someting... Assuming you're pro-life....If you were in the business of burning up body parts, would you feel just fine in taking a truck load of dead babies and chucking them in a huge furnace...even though they're characterized as "waste"? Are you actually insisting you'd have no problem or guilt of character doing such a thing? Let me ask you something assuming you are pro-choice, and that by your definition all those dead fetuses are just "clumps of cells"...what should be done with them? Your ilk are claiming they are not human, not children, just medical waste. Now you suddenly will call them fetuses in order to propagandize? Pick a side asshole. I'm just sick of the circular arguing and obfuscation of the left. Alinsky tactics at their most disgusting. Notice this reply dodges your question and tries to ignore you by asking and accusing you of what they are doing. And of course bring up Alinsky for good measure. I suspect a Glenn Beck freak is typing. Of course I noticed...it's what Bluebird and her buddies have done in this entire thread...completely dodge the issue, call the babies "waste" and "fetus", claim they don't care that he burns the babies because they're already dead, and on and on.... Sick partisan assholes....without any concern for anything but their party's puppets -- regardless of how badly they flip flop like a dying fish. |
AZGal User ID: 1486221 United States 08/13/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can WRITE IN RON PAUL if you want. Let's see if he'll do anything different although I doubt it, but this is going to happen anyway, let's really trip them up. Quoting: RedDawnPost The entire country could write him in. It won't change a thing. The next president has already been selected. It will be the guy who has more royal blood in his veins, just as it has been for the last 236 years. |
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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 08/13/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird And. . . . .? Should the legislature decide otherwise, he could ultimately veto a law but maintaining the status quo is not the same as an all out campaign to promote abortion as you seem to be trying to suggest. He couldn't pass a law by himself under any circumstances. Only legislature can do that. Governor can only veto same as POTUS. But the you're not at all about the truth anyway so why pretend? Say whatever you like but maintaining the status quo is hardly a "vocal pro-choice stance"! He is likely to do the same if elected POTUS. That does not mean he personally endorses nor practices abortion. While the majority of Americans do oppose it, there is not likely the momentum for a reversal of Roe v Wade and I so highly doubt that the issue will be addressed at all at this time. But hopefully some day, the advances in embryology will be accepted and the current scientific knowledge recognized and an end will be put to this barbarism the liberal left has foisted upon this country. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21856498 United States 08/13/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did Bain and Romney control Stericycle? YES, that is a fact. Romney personally signed the deal and had dispositive power over 11% of Stericycle stock. Does Stericycle incinerate aborted fetuses and did they then? YES, Stericycle had already been in the medical waste business for years and had announced their plans for expansion in early 1999. So they were incinerating fetuses by 2002, when Mitt was still in charge of Bain, as proved by SEC filings. Therefore, this story is TRUE. [link to m.motherjones.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did Bain and Romney control Stericycle? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21856498 YES, that is a fact. Romney personally signed the deal and had dispositive power over 11% of Stericycle stock. Does Stericycle incinerate aborted fetuses and did they then? YES, Stericycle had already been in the medical waste business for years and had announced their plans for expansion in early 1999. So they were incinerating fetuses by 2002, when Mitt was still in charge of Bain, as proved by SEC filings. Therefore, this story is TRUE. [link to m.motherjones.com] DOH! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317987 08/13/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the factcheck link. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317987 I have my own source for my claim he's the record breaking liar: [link to www.politifact.com] [link to www.politifact.com] sorry, should have said 'sources' . One is a link to false statements and the other to pants on fire statements. |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 08/13/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm merely trying to use terms that liberals themselves prefer. Feel free to substitute babies in any instance it's used but I was speaking of first trimester as I don't like to even think about the late term abortions that liberals are so fond of protecting where a viable BABY is murdered by having a pair of scissors inserted into the base of its brain. Quoting: Bluebird Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13774413 United States 08/13/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first, i'd like you to point out the name that i called you. second : i'd say that a vocal pro-choice stance as a governor is, in a sense, promoting abortion. so there is that part that you did, in fact, ignore. Quoting: Mordier L'eft Say whatever you like but maintaining the status quo is hardly a "vocal pro-choice stance"! He is likely to do the same if elected POTUS. That does not mean he personally endorses nor practices abortion. While the majority of Americans do oppose it, there is not likely the momentum for a reversal of Roe v Wade and I so highly doubt that the issue will be addressed at all at this time. But hopefully some day, the advances in embryology will be accepted and the current scientific knowledge recognized and an end will be put to this barbarism the liberal left has foisted upon this country. So by your logic, until it is reversed, its just fine to make MONEY off of it! But you want to shoot abortion doctors or jail them for was is LEGAL TOO?! You are one twisted psycho that will make ANY excuse to defend your insanity. |
Mordier L'eft (OP) User ID: 19388961 Canada 08/13/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first, i'd like you to point out the name that i called you. second : i'd say that a vocal pro-choice stance as a governor is, in a sense, promoting abortion. so there is that part that you did, in fact, ignore. Quoting: Mordier L'eft Say whatever you like but maintaining the status quo is hardly a "vocal pro-choice stance"! He is likely to do the same if elected POTUS. That does not mean he personally endorses nor practices abortion. While the majority of Americans do oppose it, there is not likely the momentum for a reversal of Roe v Wade and I so highly doubt that the issue will be addressed at all at this time. But hopefully some day, the advances in embryology will be accepted and the current scientific knowledge recognized and an end will be put to this barbarism the liberal left has foisted upon this country. "The executive director of Massachusetts NARAL at the time, Melissa Kogut, stated that in her organization's endorsement interview with Romney, he was "emphatic that the Republican Party was not doing themselves a service by being so vehemently anti-choice." i DO think that that is a "vocal pro-choice stance" and i defy you to categorize it otherwise. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States 08/13/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird I'm merely trying to use terms that liberals themselves prefer. Feel free to substitute babies in any instance it's used but I was speaking of first trimester as I don't like to even think about the late term abortions that liberals are so fond of protecting where a viable BABY is murdered by having a pair of scissors inserted into the base of its brain. Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Yes. He can be. Dense as a brick. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 08/13/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird This would be a tiny, tiny percentage of the biohazard waste. An adult human leg for example would equal to maybe a hundred fetuses or more because of bone content and so forth. So I guess next you can claim he tried to cause people to have their legs amputated by promoting diabetes by selling pies or something equally ridiculous. We are speaking of waste disposal. In terms of mass, yes, they would certainly be of less mass than amputated limbs. Are you suggesting that those tasked with disposal of biohazards should feel responsible for that material? Should they also feel responsible for organs removed surgically? Limbs? Used needles? All that is the fault of those who dispose of the waste created by the process? So the "babies" are now "waste" and "fetuses", according to you, correct? Are you consistent with those terms in all of your abortion debates? Is it fine for a liberal to refer to an aborted baby as "waste" in future abortion discussions with you? They won't. They'll go back to calling them a clump of cells. They're only babies when it supports liberal propaganda. |
RedDawnPost User ID: 15731848 United States 08/13/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the factcheck link. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317987 I have my own source for my claim he's the record breaking liar: [link to www.politifact.com] [link to www.politifact.com] Where's the other source? "To harm another, is to harm ones self." ~Socrates "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye." Alternative News: [link to www.reddawnpost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird I'm merely trying to use terms that liberals themselves prefer. Feel free to substitute babies in any instance it's used but I was speaking of first trimester as I don't like to even think about the late term abortions that liberals are so fond of protecting where a viable BABY is murdered by having a pair of scissors inserted into the base of its brain. Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 08/13/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first, i'd like you to point out the name that i called you. second : i'd say that a vocal pro-choice stance as a governor is, in a sense, promoting abortion. so there is that part that you did, in fact, ignore. Quoting: Mordier L'eft Where have I EVER said I wanted to shoot abortion doctors or anybody for that matter? I'm not the one who is insane here. But I do know there are very strict laws concerning biohazards and suggest you familiarize yourself with them as well. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird I'm merely trying to use terms that liberals themselves prefer. Feel free to substitute babies in any instance it's used but I was speaking of first trimester as I don't like to even think about the late term abortions that liberals are so fond of protecting where a viable BABY is murdered by having a pair of scissors inserted into the base of its brain. Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't slavery also legal once a time ago??? Didn't Hitler legalize the extermination of jewish people?? Anything legal is proper and just, according to you, correct? Just want to clarify your stance.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13774413 United States 08/13/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird I'm merely trying to use terms that liberals themselves prefer. Feel free to substitute babies in any instance it's used but I was speaking of first trimester as I don't like to even think about the late term abortions that liberals are so fond of protecting where a viable BABY is murdered by having a pair of scissors inserted into the base of its brain. Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? So making MONEY off abortions are fine and besides its only a small amount. And until its illegal, its great to make MONEY off of it. But a doctor doing a LEGAL procedure? Jail or shoot him?! You are insane. You will defend cororations above all else. |
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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 08/13/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16829646 Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... One last time. It's the law. They have to be disposed of in legal manner. Once the parent choses an abortion, they lose legal possession or control of the product of that abortion and it has to be legally disposed of in a safe manner. So yes, I would be OK with anybody doing that very necessary service. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21856498 United States 08/13/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's what happened with Stericycle. In November 1999, Bain Capital and Madison Dearborn Partners, a Chicago-based private equity firm, filed with the SEC a Schedule 13D, which lists owners of publicly traded companies, noting that they had jointly purchased $75 million worth of shares in Stericycle, a fast-growing player in the medical-waste industry. (That April, Stericycle had announced plans to buy the medical-waste businesses of Browning Ferris Industries and Allied Waste Industries.) The SEC filing lists assorted Bain-related entities that were part of the deal, including Bain Capital (BCI), Bain Capital Partners VI (BCP VI), Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors (a Bermuda-based Bain affiliate), and Brookside Capital Investors (a Bain offshoot). And it notes that Romney was the "sole shareholder, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of BCI, BCP VI Inc., Brookside Inc. and Sankaty Ltd." The document also states that Romney "may be deemed to share voting and dispositive power with respect to" 2,116,588 shares of common stock in Stericycle "in his capacity as sole shareholder" of the Bain entities that invested in the company. That was about 11 percent of the outstanding shares of common stock. (The whole $75 million investment won Bain, Romney, and their partners 22.64 percent of the firm's stock—the largest bloc among the firm's owners.) The original copy of the filing was signed by Romney. Another SEC document filed November 30, 1999, by Stericycle also names Romney as an individual who holds "voting and dispositive power" with respect to the stock owned by Bain. If Romney had fully retired from the private equity firm he founded, why would he be the only Bain executive named as the person in control of this large amount of Stericycle stock? Stericycle was a lucrative investment for Romney and Bain. The company had entered the medical-waste business a decade earlier.... [link to m.motherjones.com] |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 08/13/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bluebird was okay with SLAVERY because it was LEGAL at one time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11125888 Is that a fair statement, bluebird? You both are so stupid, I'm not continuing this discussion any further as apparently you are unable to either comprehend or reason. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Mordier L'eft (OP) User ID: 19388961 Canada 08/13/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mordier L'eft well maybe i wasn't BANG ON in my info, but : "During the 2002 governor's race, Romney's platform stated, "As Governor, Mitt Romney would protect the current pro-choice status quo in Massachusetts. No law would change." The executive director of Massachusetts NARAL at the time, Melissa Kogut, stated that in her organization's endorsement interview with Romney, he was "emphatic that the Republican Party was not doing themselves a service by being so vehemently anti-choice."" I have not even addressed Romney being pro-choice or not so you are just name calling to suit your agenda. i'd still like you to point out the name i called you. or is that just one of your awesome tactics, accuse someone of being rude when they're really nothing more than better informed than you so that they'll stop presenting facts since you feel bad? Last Edited by Mordier L'eft on 08/13/2012 12:25 PM --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 08/13/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16829646 Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Yes. He can be. Dense as a brick. denial of the truth is not being dense, it is being evil. Intentional evil. Evil has as it's purpose, the destru ction of all what is good and creative and sustainable. There is no other purpose for evil, that's why it has its' own name. Get your terms straight. They mean to loot you and then destroy you. Their words only mean what they want them to mean, and they are not otherwise limited by what they said in the past. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Quoting: Bluebird One last time. It's the law. They have to be disposed of in legal manner. Once the parent choses an abortion, they lose legal possession or control of the product of that abortion and it has to be legally disposed of in a safe manner. So yes, I would be OK with anybody doing that very necessary service. BOOKMARKED! Bluebird is okay with taking a 9 month old, late term aborted baby who was murdered with a pair of scissors and tossing them in a furnace, BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL TO DO SO! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 08/13/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16829646 Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... It doesn't matter what anyone's stance is...it's the law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317987 08/13/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the factcheck link. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317987 I have my own source for my claim he's the record breaking liar: [link to www.politifact.com] [link to www.politifact.com] Where's the other source? [link to www.motherjones.com] Romney is a legendary, world-class flip-flopper, and flip-flopping is a fairly douchebaggy thing to do. But this latest behavior from his campaign isn't flip flopping. Mitt Romney isn't turning his back on an earlier version of Mitt Romney, or pretending to hold different positions on issues depending on who his audience is. No, this is grand mal prevarication, an orgy of unabashed bald-faced lying we haven't seen on television since Baghdad Bob enlivened the closing hours of Saddam Hussein's regime. eclectablog.com/2012/08/mitt-romney-is-a-blatant-liar-and-he-is-running-for-president-of-the-united-states.html |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11125888 United States 08/13/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13774413 The double standard and outright pretzel spinning of excuse making for Romney the corporate elitist and whatever he does is pathetic and transparent. Keep defending though, its quite funny! Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? Yet, of course, you're fine with Romney's company incinerating 9 month old, late term aborted babies, even if said baby was killed with a pair of scissors to the brain, correct? Just chuck them in the furnance, right? The 9 month old, aborted fetus and all, right? Can the worker swing the baby around by the feet and toss it in, or should more care be taken in placement in said furnance? Just want to be clear on your stance here... It doesn't matter what anyone's stance is...it's the law. Owning SLAVES was also "THE LAW", right? Thanks for admitting you were fine with people owning slaves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 08/13/2012 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bluebird was okay with SLAVERY because it was LEGAL at one time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11125888 Is that a fair statement, bluebird? You both are so stupid, I'm not continuing this discussion any further as apparently you are unable to either comprehend or reason. that's why in the past, adults were expected to force children from their obstinacy, because it was readily apparent, that to NOT do so, was to encourage further mayhem. You cannot cure a rotter, they must be put down. You can pretend you have the resources to cure them, but you do not, any more than you can convert a tumour into another human. What we have here, now, it a call for equal rights for tumours. It cant end well... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 08/13/2012 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bluebird Since you keep attacking me personally, I will make one last effort to try to explain this one more time. It is not what I think. IT'S THE LAW! What part of that don't you understand? Medical biohazardous waste must by law be disposed of in a certain manner and most of it by incineration. Can you really be this dense??? One last time. It's the law. They have to be disposed of in legal manner. Once the parent choses an abortion, they lose legal possession or control of the product of that abortion and it has to be legally disposed of in a safe manner. So yes, I would be OK with anybody doing that very necessary service. BOOKMARKED! Bluebird is okay with taking a 9 month old, late term aborted baby who was murdered with a pair of scissors and tossing them in a furnace, BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL TO DO SO! Not "Legal". REQUIRED BY LAW. Failing to see the difference at this point makes you incredibly stupid. |