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Why should we pray the rosary?
It has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
It's not known in the Jewish faith and neither did Jesus introduce it.

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Who cares if its part of the Jewish Faith? Get real..we are Christians..Gosh..2000 years and still this..:rollseyes:
 Quoting: wildhoney


Speak for yourself! I'm a messianic Jew (a Jew who believes in Yeshua as the Mashiach ben David). Yeshua (or Jesus as you like to call Him) never created a new religion, in fact, He came to fulfill the Torah. In case you don't know it, 80% of the bible centers around the Jews and Israel. Jesus will return on the Mount of Olives, which is in Israel (not in Rome). You can't create a new religion by discarding the teachings of the bible. The bible is God's Word, whether you accept it or not. You stick with Mary and the pope, i'll follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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Beautiful testimony rose. Did you have difficulty
with the summit of the faith, believing in the most Holy
Eucahrist?


No, the Eucharist was not hard for me to accept. I suppose I had been "feeling Catholic" for so long, and had such soulful, beautiful preparation from my sponsor, the Sisters, and the Priests, that I was looking forward to the Holy Eucharist with an air of expectancy and joy. I had a few problems, prior to my confirmation of accepting the discipline of preparation...I wanted to be confirmed sooner..but I finally realized it would be happen when God was ready for me to accept the faith fully.

I had, besides my sponsor, the Sisters, and Priests, a soon-to-be sister-in -law who had been a Sister for about 20 years before leaving the convent and a future mother-in-law who lovingly taught me the Rosary, the prayers, the Stations of the Cross etc. It was a very intense period in my life and my confirmation was followed by my marriage, in the Church, to the man of my dreams. He was a cradle Catholic and had been schooled by the Jesuits...so, we had this great love and great faith between us as we prepared for both marriage and my confirmation. And, in the Church, I have found peace: although I have my questions, and my doubts, and my temptations. So far, 13 years, of being a practicing Catholic has given me more than words can say.
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Why should we pray the rosary?
It has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
It's not known in the Jewish faith and neither did Jesus introduce it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Who cares if its part of the Jewish Faith? Get real..we are Christians..Gosh..2000 years and still this..:rollseyes:
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The Window for Gentiles is closing. Stay grafted in.
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Why should we pray the rosary?
It has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
It's not known in the Jewish faith and neither did Jesus introduce it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Who cares if its part of the Jewish Faith? Get real..we are Christians..Gosh..2000 years and still this..:rollseyes:
 Quoting: wildhoney


Speak for yourself! I'm a messianic Jew (a Jew who believes in Yeshua as the Mashiach ben David). Yeshua (or Jesus as you like to call Him) never created a new religion, in fact, He came to fulfill the Torah. In case you don't know it, 80% of the bible centers around the Jews and Israel. Jesus will return on the Mount of Olives, which is in Israel (not in Rome). You can't create a new religion by discarding the teachings of the bible. The bible is God's Word, whether you accept it or not. You stick with Mary and the pope, i'll follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


We didn't, Jesus established His New Covenant Church, Roman
Catholicism. The Bible is a Catholic book, read history. Pope Damasus determined the Canon in 382. His God given authority.

This is the New Covenant friend. Messianic Judaism and it's break away denominations are a new Protestant sect. They preach a lot of Protestant heresy mixed with a little Judaism, go figure? Messianic Judaism was started by a Baptist minister who wanted to convert those of the Jewish faith to
Protestantism. Believe Our Lord and see things are made greater in the New Covenant. There is much grace given in praying the rosary and stated again in prophecy, you do not have to be Catholic to benefit of those graces so pray the
Rosary. Start with 1 decade and work up to five but pray the Rosary every day. It is powerful. It takes about fifteen minutes to pray a rosary.

Pray a rosary, any prayer for the conversion of Judaism. Look at this current message from Our Lord. Referring to the Gospel of Mark, the parable of the Tenant.

God bless you,

+ + +

message to Father Melvin Doucette

November 8, 2012

“I call you My brother Melvin and all My brothers and sisters to be good listeners to what I have to say to you. First of all My words are in the Bible especially in the Gospels and these words are addressed to each one of you. So you should read the Bible every day. The parable of the tenants is really the history of the Jewish people. The vineyard is their country given to them by God the Father. At times He sent prophets to them to teach them and to call them to the right path. What they did with these is this: they beat them and many they killed. At the end the Father sent His only Son and did they respect Him. NO, they did not. Instead they beat Him and crucified Him. He died on the cross. If you had been there is Israel during My lifetime, you too would have done the same thing. You would have killed Me. So now that you believe in Me as the Son of God come and be My friend and follow Me every day. I love you all.”
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lazyskate WHY IS MARY CRYING?... [link to www.chick.com]
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Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Yup Ill stick with Mary ..The Pope..The Saints..Christ..The Holy Spirit ..The consecrcrated Souls..etc..

looks like you are outnumbered huh?

chuckle
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Yup Ill stick with Mary ..The Pope..The Saints..Christ..The Holy Spirit ..The consecrcrated Souls..etc..

looks like you are outnumbered huh?

chuckle
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The quantity never made the difference really, in the Bible.
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Yup Ill stick with Mary ..The Pope..The Saints..Christ..The Holy Spirit ..The consecrcrated Souls..etc..

looks like you are outnumbered huh?

chuckle
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The quantity never made the difference really, in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Exactly..the Gospels are a very minute part of the bible yet hold the wisdom in my opinion
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Why should we pray the rosary?
It has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
It's not known in the Jewish faith and neither did Jesus introduce it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Who cares if its part of the Jewish Faith? Get real..we are Christians..Gosh..2000 years and still this..:rollseyes:
 Quoting: wildhoney


Speak for yourself! I'm a messianic Jew (a Jew who believes in Yeshua as the Mashiach ben David). Yeshua (or Jesus as you like to call Him) never created a new religion, in fact, He came to fulfill the Torah. In case you don't know it, 80% of the bible centers around the Jews and Israel. Jesus will return on the Mount of Olives, which is in Israel (not in Rome). You can't create a new religion by discarding the teachings of the bible. The bible is God's Word, whether you accept it or not. You stick with Mary and the pope, i'll follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


We didn't, Jesus established His New Covenant Church, Roman
Catholicism. The Bible is a Catholic book, read history. Pope Damasus determined the Canon in 382. His God given authority.

This is the New Covenant friend. Messianic Judaism and it's break away denominations are a new Protestant sect. They preach a lot of Protestant heresy mixed with a little Judaism, go figure? Messianic Judaism was started by a Baptist minister who wanted to convert those of the Jewish faith to
Protestantism. Believe Our Lord and see things are made greater in the New Covenant. There is much grace given in praying the rosary and stated again in prophecy, you do not have to be Catholic to benefit of those graces so pray the
Rosary. Start with 1 decade and work up to five but pray the Rosary every day. It is powerful. It takes about fifteen minutes to pray a rosary.

Pray a rosary, any prayer for the conversion of Judaism. Look at this current message from Our Lord. Referring to the Gospel of Mark, the parable of the Tenant.

God bless you,

+ + +

message to Father Melvin Doucette

November 8, 2012

“I call you My brother Melvin and all My brothers and sisters to be good listeners to what I have to say to you. First of all My words are in the Bible especially in the Gospels and these words are addressed to each one of you. So you should read the Bible every day. The parable of the tenants is really the history of the Jewish people. The vineyard is their country given to them by God the Father. At times He sent prophets to them to teach them and to call them to the right path. What they did with these is this: they beat them and many they killed. At the end the Father sent His only Son and did they respect Him. NO, they did not. Instead they beat Him and crucified Him. He died on the cross. If you had been there is Israel during My lifetime, you too would have done the same thing. You would have killed Me. So now that you believe in Me as the Son of God come and be My friend and follow Me every day. I love you all.”
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Messianic Judaism is part of Protestantism!? LOL, are you serious? Catholicism was established in the 4th century, Protestantism in the 15th century by Luther, Messianic Judaism erected in the 1st century. The followers of Jesus were all Jews and believed in Him as the Messias, that's the concept of messianic Judaism!
Where did you get the idea that the bible is a catholic book? It's written by Jewish people, it's about Jewish people. Jesus and Mary went to the synagogue on saturday, does that make them Jews or catholics? Jesus said Himself: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Torah" (Matthew 5:17), how does the Torah compare to the catholic doctrines? In fact, by studying the Torah you'll see that the catholicism is nothing other than paganism.
One more thing: the Jews didn't kill Jesus, He was supposed to die a horrible death. By his death He atoned for the sins of mankind. This is the bible 101.
You want to debate about Jewish issues with a Jewish person by using a Jewish book; you're destined to loose.
Btw, isn't it weird that catholicism nor catholics is not mentioned in the bible, not even once?
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Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
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You just walked into my trap: either you think that Jesus will return on the Mount of olives in Rome (which is heresy) or that He will return in Jerusalem (according to the bible). If it's Jerusalem you need to explain me why He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews) rather than Rome (the headquarter of catholicism), if you're convinced that Jesus stopped being Jewish and founded catholicism.
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He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews)
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... the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

… They will not remain in the LORD's land;... Hosea 9:3
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Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
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You just walked into my trap: either you think that Jesus will return on the Mount of olives in Rome (which is heresy) or that He will return in Jerusalem (according to the bible). If it's Jerusalem you need to explain me why He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews) rather than Rome (the headquarter of catholicism), if you're convinced that Jesus stopped being Jewish and founded catholicism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


I cant stay long..I have visitors..
But to put it plainly..and I would be saying the exact same if He had been born in Spain..
Jesus is not His body in my opinion

He existed before incarnating..and exists after
I have said this over and over again

Christ is Universal..and Timeless

he is not in my opinion of any race..people or land..or even any religion.He spoke Truth..and from that root came different offsprings..some Catholics..some Protestants..some Orthodox..etc..human interpretation to His words

each has their own opinion ..if one appertains to a religion..one thinks usually it is the right one..as I do with the Catholic Faith

There is one point though..

Christ passed the bastion of rulership to Peter..till His return..Our church is built upon Peter..and prophecies say it will remain till His reutun and the dark forces will not have power over it

I dont think Jesus stopped being Jewish..I believe..that He of course never was Jewish..

Last Edited by wildhoney on 11/15/2012 05:50 AM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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As to why He appeared there..at that time..of course there is a reason for it..but I leave that to your wisdom to discern
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
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You just walked into my trap: either you think that Jesus will return on the Mount of olives in Rome (which is heresy) or that He will return in Jerusalem (according to the bible). If it's Jerusalem you need to explain me why He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews) rather than Rome (the headquarter of catholicism), if you're convinced that Jesus stopped being Jewish and founded catholicism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Just as the Word..was passed from Jerusalem to Rome..through Peter..so will He appear in Rome..not Jerusalem..in my opinion..

call it a hunch
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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he is not in my opinion of any race..people or land..or even any religion.He spoke Truth..and from that root came different offsprings..some Catholics..some Protestants..some Orthodox..etc..human interpretation to His words
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whoops accident
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nope..lol
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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[he is not in my opinion of any race..people or land..or even any religion.

I don't understamd what you mean by that statement that he is not of any religion.
It confuses me about whether you believe that one needs to be a catholic to be saved
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No I mean I quoted without replying to your quote (Accidentally clicked the post button)
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He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews)
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... the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

… They will not remain in the LORD's land;... Hosea 9:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


LOL, you seem to know the bible better than the average catholic, however, this specific verse refers to the past (happened over 2500 yrs ago, look it up) and not to the future. You know that the Jews ended in the Diaspora, right? This situation was only temporary: "For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land...Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. (Eze 36:24;28).
Then in the following chapters (Eze 38-39) a coalition of Iran, Turkey and other muslim nations (a.k.a Gog & Magog) will invade Israel. God will intervene and safe Israel.
But before that happens we need to focus on Psalm 83: a confederacy of Arab nations will try to wipe out Israel: "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel's name is remembered no more." (verse 4) However, they will fail and the IDF will obliterate them. Probably Damascus will be destroyed as well (Isaiah 17:1).
With all this mind ask yourself one thing: If the Jews really did kill Jesus, and if Jesus really founded a new religion (catholicism), why in the world would God protect Israel from the muslim nations? Why would Jesus care to return to Jerusalem? What's the identity of "the woman who was dressed in purple and scarlet" (Rev 17:4)? To my knowledge there's only one church who has these colors...
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Jesus was a Jew, as well as his mother Mary. The bible clearly tells you to worship none other than God. It is a commandment. Mary is not part of the holy trinity. It is Father, Son, Holy Spirit even in Catholicism. As I was Catholic went to CCD every Sunday, had my confession and Communion. I know the Catholic church. I know they believe they are the only true church. I left because I began to question this very topic.

Hail Mary, full of grace. So I started wondering why I was Hailing Mary. Then I started to ponder kneeling before saints and praying to them as well. It's idolatry in my opinion.

I pray to God the father, and Jesus the son.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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11/15/2012 06:09 AM
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Re: Pray the rosary!
Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
 Quoting: wildhoney


You just walked into my trap: either you think that Jesus will return on the Mount of olives in Rome (which is heresy) or that He will return in Jerusalem (according to the bible). If it's Jerusalem you need to explain me why He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews) rather than Rome (the headquarter of catholicism), if you're convinced that Jesus stopped being Jewish and founded catholicism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Just as the Word..was passed from Jerusalem to Rome..through Peter..so will He appear in Rome..not Jerusalem..in my opinion..

call it a hunch
 Quoting: wildhoney


Rather than following your instincts (humans are prone to errors) i suggest you to read the bible, there it cleary says that Jesus will return to Jerusalem. I seriously doubt that you frequently study the bible. Don't you think that the bible is inspired by God and that it reveals both past, present and future? It's never too late to start reading it!
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11/15/2012 06:12 AM
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Re: Pray the rosary!
He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


... the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

… They will not remain in the LORD's land;... Hosea 9:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


LOL, you seem to know the bible better than the average catholic, however, this specific verse refers to the past (happened over 2500 yrs ago, look it up) and not to the future. You know that the Jews ended in the Diaspora, right? This situation was only temporary: "For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land...Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. (Eze 36:24;28).
Then in the following chapters (Eze 38-39) a coalition of Iran, Turkey and other muslim nations (a.k.a Gog & Magog) will invade Israel. God will intervene and safe Israel.
But before that happens we need to focus on Psalm 83: a confederacy of Arab nations will try to wipe out Israel: "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel's name is remembered no more." (verse 4) However, they will fail and the IDF will obliterate them. Probably Damascus will be destroyed as well (Isaiah 17:1).
With all this mind ask yourself one thing: If the Jews really did kill Jesus, and if Jesus really founded a new religion (catholicism), why in the world would God protect Israel from the muslim nations? Why would Jesus care to return to Jerusalem? What's the identity of "the woman who was dressed in purple and scarlet" (Rev 17:4)? To my knowledge there's only one church who has these colors...

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God´s Word is eternal meaning applying permanenty. And alive. And kicking.

You liars will know soon.
Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2012 06:18 AM
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Re: Pray the rosary!
Jesus was a Jew, as well as his mother Mary. The bible clearly tells you to worship none other than God. It is a commandment. Mary is not part of the holy trinity. It is Father, Son, Holy Spirit even in Catholicism. As I was Catholic went to CCD every Sunday, had my confession and Communion. I know the Catholic church. I know they believe they are the only true church. I left because I began to question this very topic.

Hail Mary, full of grace. So I started wondering why I was Hailing Mary. Then I started to ponder kneeling before saints and praying to them as well. It's idolatry in my opinion.

I pray to God the father, and Jesus the son.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Rochelle, i am glad you came to your senses. I am Jewish, you're Gentile, and what we have in common is our believe in the bible, God and His Son Jesus. Even in my case you shouldn't accept my words at face value, that's why i provide bible verses so you can verify what i say. The catholics on the other hand don't care much about the bible. If i tell them that the rosary is not biblical but originated from hinduism (just check it), they tell me that it doesn't matter because the pope said so and he's always right. Perhaps when Rome (the woman on the beast) is destroyed they will come to their senses.
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11/15/2012 06:20 AM
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Re: Pray the rosary!
He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


... the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

… They will not remain in the LORD's land;... Hosea 9:3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


LOL, you seem to know the bible better than the average catholic, however, this specific verse refers to the past (happened over 2500 yrs ago, look it up) and not to the future. You know that the Jews ended in the Diaspora, right? This situation was only temporary: "For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land...Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. (Eze 36:24;28).
Then in the following chapters (Eze 38-39) a coalition of Iran, Turkey and other muslim nations (a.k.a Gog & Magog) will invade Israel. God will intervene and safe Israel.
But before that happens we need to focus on Psalm 83: a confederacy of Arab nations will try to wipe out Israel: "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel's name is remembered no more." (verse 4) However, they will fail and the IDF will obliterate them. Probably Damascus will be destroyed as well (Isaiah 17:1).
With all this mind ask yourself one thing: If the Jews really did kill Jesus, and if Jesus really founded a new religion (catholicism), why in the world would God protect Israel from the muslim nations? Why would Jesus care to return to Jerusalem? What's the identity of "the woman who was dressed in purple and scarlet" (Rev 17:4)? To my knowledge there's only one church who has these colors...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


God´s Word is eternal meaning applying permanenty. And alive. And kicking.

You liars will know soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26793411


Please provide bible verses to proof that i'm lying.
wildhoney

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11/15/2012 08:15 AM

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Re: Pray the rosary!
[he is not in my opinion of any race..people or land..or even any religion.

I don't understamd what you mean by that statement that he is not of any religion.
It confuses me about whether you believe that one needs to be a catholic to be saved
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19478546


For me it is complete..and the place to be ..I think following the Catholic way of Life to the full does probably mean salvation..But it is not up to me to tell others what to do..
One can make suggestions..give advice..give an opinion..but at least I am not one to TELL someone what to do
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
wildhoney

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11/15/2012 08:18 AM

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Re: Pray the rosary!
Jesus was a Jew, as well as his mother Mary. The bible clearly tells you to worship none other than God. It is a commandment. Mary is not part of the holy trinity. It is Father, Son, Holy Spirit even in Catholicism. As I was Catholic went to CCD every Sunday, had my confession and Communion. I know the Catholic church. I know they believe they are the only true church. I left because I began to question this very topic.

Hail Mary, full of grace. So I started wondering why I was Hailing Mary. Then I started to ponder kneeling before saints and praying to them as well. It's idolatry in my opinion.

I pray to God the father, and Jesus the son.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Rochelle, i am glad you came to your senses. I am Jewish, you're Gentile, and what we have in common is our believe in the bible, God and His Son Jesus. Even in my case you shouldn't accept my words at face value, that's why i provide bible verses so you can verify what i say. The catholics on the other hand don't care much about the bible. If i tell them that the rosary is not biblical but originated from hinduism (just check it), they tell me that it doesn't matter because the pope said so and he's always right. Perhaps when Rome (the woman on the beast) is destroyed they will come to their senses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


I absolutely beg to differ..

And the same would apply if He were born in Spain..I would be here saying that in my opinion He is not Spanish

Why? because HE is NOT a person..He is spirit made flesh

If He were a person..like you and me..sure..he is born in Spain or wherever..from Spanish blood..Spanish..of such and such a region

But to do so..in my opinion is to negate His Divinity..because He is Divine..of God....He is Universal..Intemporal..and Complete in Himself.
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
BadMoonRising
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11/15/2012 08:19 AM
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Re: Pray the rosary!
Aren't those Anal beads?
wildhoney

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Actually now that you mention it..there is a mount of olives in Rome unless I am mistaken..;)
 Quoting: wildhoney


You just walked into my trap: either you think that Jesus will return on the Mount of olives in Rome (which is heresy) or that He will return in Jerusalem (according to the bible). If it's Jerusalem you need to explain me why He chooses Israel (the land given to the Jews) rather than Rome (the headquarter of catholicism), if you're convinced that Jesus stopped being Jewish and founded catholicism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Just as the Word..was passed from Jerusalem to Rome..through Peter..so will He appear in Rome..not Jerusalem..in my opinion..

call it a hunch
 Quoting: wildhoney


Rather than following your instincts (humans are prone to errors) i suggest you to read the bible, there it cleary says that Jesus will return to Jerusalem. I seriously doubt that you frequently study the bible. Don't you think that the bible is inspired by God and that it reveals both past, present and future? It's never too late to start reading it!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229586


Unfortunately I believe that many things have been lost in translation and or deliberately altered..which is unfortunate
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)