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Margaret Thatcher blasting Socialism. A must read. | |
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| 0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 760857 United States08/13/2012 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do agree with this post, however, I disagree with one portion, which follows: We who are living in the west today are fortunate. Freedom has been bequeathed to us. We have not had to carve it out of nothing; we have not had to pay for it with our lives. But it would be a grave mistake to think that freedom requires nothing of us. Each of us has to earn freedom anew in order to possess it. We do so not just for our own sake, but for the sake of our children, so that they may build a better future that will sustain over the world the responsibilities and blessings of freedom. Our service men and women may not be fighting for freedom in the sense that those of the revolutionary war or others, simply due to the fact that our leaders do not mind puting our Hero's in harms way for political gain, while their children go to Harvard and play rugby and row. However, our servicemen and women die all the time for the "Idea of Freedom" upon which is their beliefs when they are sent into harms way. They fight for their Country, and the fight for their Mates, their "freinds", "Battle Buddy", they fight for their families and the guy next to them who is fighting for the guy next to him. It has been said that WAR is an extention of Politics, it should not be this way. Our Country, is going down the wrong path, at the end of this path, resides full out Communism. It amazes me that the First Black Man to become President has led us further down this road that any of the White Presidents before him. I do not know if the saying "The Road to hell is paved with good intentions" or if, maybe it should be "Greed, is the alter upon which good men are sacrificed". "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17152779 United States08/13/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do agree with this post, however, I disagree with one portion, which follows: Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR We who are living in the west today are fortunate. Freedom has been bequeathed to us. We have not had to carve it out of nothing; we have not had to pay for it with our lives. But it would be a grave mistake to think that freedom requires nothing of us. Each of us has to earn freedom anew in order to possess it. We do so not just for our own sake, but for the sake of our children, so that they may build a better future that will sustain over the world the responsibilities and blessings of freedom. Our service men and women may not be fighting for freedom in the sense that those of the revolutionary war or others, simply due to the fact that our leaders do not mind puting our Hero's in harms way for political gain, while their children go to Harvard and play rugby and row. However, our servicemen and women die all the time for the "Idea of Freedom" upon which is their beliefs when they are sent into harms way. They fight for their Country, and the fight for their Mates, their "freinds", "Battle Buddy", they fight for their families and the guy next to them who is fighting for the guy next to him. It has been said that WAR is an extention of Politics, it should not be this way. Our Country, is going down the wrong path, at the end of this path, resides full out Communism. It amazes me that the First Black Man to become President has led us further down this road that any of the White Presidents before him. I do not know if the saying "The Road to hell is paved with good intentions" or if, maybe it should be "Greed, is the alter upon which good men are sacrificed". Socialism doen't lead to communism, it leads to a prosperous society. |
| Manu-Koelbren (OP) User ID: 20912765 Spain08/13/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do agree with this post, however, I disagree with one portion, which follows: Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR We who are living in the west today are fortunate. Freedom has been bequeathed to us. We have not had to carve it out of nothing; we have not had to pay for it with our lives. But it would be a grave mistake to think that freedom requires nothing of us. Each of us has to earn freedom anew in order to possess it. We do so not just for our own sake, but for the sake of our children, so that they may build a better future that will sustain over the world the responsibilities and blessings of freedom. Our service men and women may not be fighting for freedom in the sense that those of the revolutionary war or others, simply due to the fact that our leaders do not mind puting our Hero's in harms way for political gain, while their children go to Harvard and play rugby and row. However, our servicemen and women die all the time for the "Idea of Freedom" upon which is their beliefs when they are sent into harms way. They fight for their Country, and the fight for their Mates, their "freinds", "Battle Buddy", they fight for their families and the guy next to them who is fighting for the guy next to him. It has been said that WAR is an extention of Politics, it should not be this way. Our Country, is going down the wrong path, at the end of this path, resides full out Communism. It amazes me that the First Black Man to become President has led us further down this road that any of the White Presidents before him. I do not know if the saying "The Road to hell is paved with good intentions" or if, maybe it should be "Greed, is the alter upon which good men are sacrificed". Socialism doen't lead to communism, it leads to a prosperous society. How can it lead to a prosperous society if it basically tells people that whether they're productive or not someone else will always support them? It's the antithesis of prosperity! You folks trust your socialist governments more than corporations and yet there's not one single convincing argument that says socialist governments can't become as corrupt as corporations. Yet it is clear to anyone with a thinking brain that it is much harder to bring down a government which became too powerful than it is to bring down a corporation that has gained monopoly AS LONG as government remains in it's proper dimensions. These are undeniable points which socialists just wish to dismiss in order to continue with their utopian beliefs. I guess we will have to let 100 million more people be murdered by totalitarian states gone bad for them to finally get it, although that didn't work last time. Last Edited by Manu-K on 08/13/2012 01:44 PM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21862053 United States08/13/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do agree with this post, however, I disagree with one portion, which follows: Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR We who are living in the west today are fortunate. Freedom has been bequeathed to us. We have not had to carve it out of nothing; we have not had to pay for it with our lives. But it would be a grave mistake to think that freedom requires nothing of us. Each of us has to earn freedom anew in order to possess it. We do so not just for our own sake, but for the sake of our children, so that they may build a better future that will sustain over the world the responsibilities and blessings of freedom. Our service men and women may not be fighting for freedom in the sense that those of the revolutionary war or others, simply due to the fact that our leaders do not mind puting our Hero's in harms way for political gain, while their children go to Harvard and play rugby and row. However, our servicemen and women die all the time for the "Idea of Freedom" upon which is their beliefs when they are sent into harms way. They fight for their Country, and the fight for their Mates, their "freinds", "Battle Buddy", they fight for their families and the guy next to them who is fighting for the guy next to him. It has been said that WAR is an extention of Politics, it should not be this way. Our Country, is going down the wrong path, at the end of this path, resides full out Communism. It amazes me that the First Black Man to become President has led us further down this road that any of the White Presidents before him. I do not know if the saying "The Road to hell is paved with good intentions" or if, maybe it should be "Greed, is the alter upon which good men are sacrificed". Socialism doen't lead to communism, it leads to a prosperous society. How can it lead to a prosperous society if it basically tells people that whether they're productive or not someone else will always support them? It's the antithesis of prosperity! You folks trust your socialist governments more than corporations and yet there's not one single convincing argument that says socialist governments can't become as corrupt as corporations. Yet it is clear to anyone with a thinking brain that it is much harder to bring down a government which became too powerful than it is to bring down a corporation that has gained monopoly AS LONG as government remains in it's proper dimensions. These are undeniable points which socialists just wish to dismiss in order to continue with their utopian beliefs. I guess we will have to let 100 million more people be murdered by totalitarian states gone bad for them to finally get it, although that didn't work last time. Isn't it amazing that the west spent 50 years fighting the rise of communism? And after the fall of the soviets, we embrace(we being the sheep). Simply put what was the point of the cold war? |
| Manu-Koelbren (OP) User ID: 20912765 Spain08/13/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do agree with this post, however, I disagree with one portion, which follows: Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR We who are living in the west today are fortunate. Freedom has been bequeathed to us. We have not had to carve it out of nothing; we have not had to pay for it with our lives. But it would be a grave mistake to think that freedom requires nothing of us. Each of us has to earn freedom anew in order to possess it. We do so not just for our own sake, but for the sake of our children, so that they may build a better future that will sustain over the world the responsibilities and blessings of freedom. Our service men and women may not be fighting for freedom in the sense that those of the revolutionary war or others, simply due to the fact that our leaders do not mind puting our Hero's in harms way for political gain, while their children go to Harvard and play rugby and row. However, our servicemen and women die all the time for the "Idea of Freedom" upon which is their beliefs when they are sent into harms way. They fight for their Country, and the fight for their Mates, their "freinds", "Battle Buddy", they fight for their families and the guy next to them who is fighting for the guy next to him. It has been said that WAR is an extention of Politics, it should not be this way. Our Country, is going down the wrong path, at the end of this path, resides full out Communism. It amazes me that the First Black Man to become President has led us further down this road that any of the White Presidents before him. I do not know if the saying "The Road to hell is paved with good intentions" or if, maybe it should be "Greed, is the alter upon which good men are sacrificed". Socialism doen't lead to communism, it leads to a prosperous society. How can it lead to a prosperous society if it basically tells people that whether they're productive or not someone else will always support them? It's the antithesis of prosperity! You folks trust your socialist governments more than corporations and yet there's not one single convincing argument that says socialist governments can't become as corrupt as corporations. Yet it is clear to anyone with a thinking brain that it is much harder to bring down a government which became too powerful than it is to bring down a corporation that has gained monopoly AS LONG as government remains in it's proper dimensions. These are undeniable points which socialists just wish to dismiss in order to continue with their utopian beliefs. I guess we will have to let 100 million more people be murdered by totalitarian states gone bad for them to finally get it, although that didn't work last time. Isn't it amazing that the west spent 50 years fighting the rise of communism? And after the fall of the soviets, we embrace(we being the sheep). Simply put what was the point of the cold war? Profit for the military industrial complex, which if it wasn't because of the disproportionate power of the state over affairs of the nation, would never have become so pervasive. The problem at the bottom line is statism, whether is of the left or right it's of not so much relevance. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Manu-Koelbren (OP) User ID: 20912765 Spain08/13/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The transcendental philosophic idea is not to cheer for the left or for the right, but for a free system which doesn't allow either the state nor the corporations supreme power over the individual, but for this, as Thatcher well stated, the individuals need to become responsible for themselves and not fall for the leftist rhetoric of a huge state for the sake of helping the needy, nor let the right create a huge state for the sake of patriotism. When the state has too much power, the corporations also gain power because corruption will always exist in the high spheres and they will find a way to become protected by public money. This is the fallacy of the left, to foment big government with the excuse of protecting the workers from the capitalists. Last Edited by Manu-K on 08/13/2012 02:09 PM Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Manu-Koelbren (OP) User ID: 20912765 Spain08/13/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ain't sure the era you are in, capitalism and bail outs. you are all deluded Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21787522 Read my posts man, it isn't capitalism, it's STATISM, the big government socialists advocate. What is it going to be, that you will only claim the achievements of big government when it goes your way? When you foment big government you set up a path which can quickly get out of your hands. You people are gullible and fall for any populist leader who tells you that allowing a bigger government will cure all social ills, you never stop to think if that leader is saying the truth, if his promises are even possible nor what will happen when that leader is replaced by someone else to be in charge of BIG GOVERNMENT. Think sheeple, THINK! Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317987 08/13/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Margaret Thatcher was a dumb cunt. Reagan too. Socialism is what keeps capitalism from creating a highly stratified society with a few haves and many have-nots. Socialism and capitalism need each other to function adequately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 Bingo. at the end of thatcher's reign, Britain was still a shit hole. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21787522 United Kingdom08/13/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ain't sure the era you are in, capitalism and bail outs. you are all deluded Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21787522 Read my posts man, it isn't capitalism, it's STATISM, the big government socialists advocate. What is it going to be, that you will only claim the achievements of big government when it goes your way? When you foment big government you set up a path which can quickly get out of your hands. You people are gullible and fall for any populist leader who tells you that allowing a bigger government will cure all social ills, you never stop to think if that leader is saying the truth, if his promises are even possible nor what will happen when that leader is replaced by someone else to be in charge of BIG GOVERNMENT. Think sheeple, THINK! nothing resembling further enhansing the states poertfolio in assets. the simple awswer is states ply there hand in creating private wealth. the obsorbatant tax revenue squandared is irelevant in why they are unable proficiantly operating national utilities like water, france is quite comfortable suplying those utlities via statism. the obviouse is wealth and how the tax payer is paying way above required sums supplimenting waste, via redistrbuting tax. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2045712 United Kingdom08/13/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: THE INQUISADOR Yep. That's the one. |
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| Manu-Koelbren (OP) User ID: 20912765 Spain08/13/2012 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's the reason for the nuclear age, and all forms of man made global warming farce. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452 Anything this ugly chick says will not be read well by me, I see her trying to manipulate others - she has felt entitled her entire life. Fuck Margaret Thatcher! Liberals are unable to detach individuals from ideas when it's about a rival ideology, but when it's about their own, they're always too quick to say that socialism is a great idea but was just unfortunately badly implemented by the wrong people in the past and that's why it failed. Come on folks Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
