Is lucid dreaming really such a good idea?

I've been trying to tell you lucidtards it's a bad idea for a long time, no one seems to want to believe it.


It's not a question of "how do I lucid dream" or "is lucid dreaming possible"...


It's a question of WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF DREAMING IN THE FIRST PLACE?


And let me give you a little fucking hint... it's not to control your dreams. It's to experience things so you don't have to experience them in this reality. Reword that how you want, it's the truth.


Ever had a recurring nightmare? Just making sure you know what that feels like real good. Oh you get it now? Well you'll never have that dream again.

Are you a psychonaut?

If so, YES.

If not, NO.

I don't know.
I'll have to sleep on it,
and get back with you !!

Well, you could still do that even if you're lucid, for me it's not about controlling the dream, but simply being lucid, still letting the subconscious have more power than the conscious.

If your dreams are a message from your subconscious, it wouldn't hurt to be aware and be able to ask questions and such. I think you would learn a lot more in a lucid dream.


When merged with the subconscious and given limited control I'm not sure if it'd be such a bad thing.

With respect, I've had a recurring nightmare about ten times. Dream starts and I am on the edge of a tall cliff or building, and one more step and I would've fallen to my death down below. I'm scared of heights, so the fear I'm feeling is intense.

So one time this dream is lucid, and I think WTF, I'm gonna just jump and see what happens. So I jump, and what happens? Do I fall to my death? Nope. I float around like an ecstatic butterfly. Nowadays? I no longer have this scary dream, although I am still afraid of heights.

As far as I'm concerned, this goes along totally with what I just said and what I personally think.

So instead of waking up pumped full of adrenalin unable to go back to sleep for an hour or two, you get a good nights sleep and wake up the same person.
What is your point exactly?

Totally over your head, UK. Maybe someone else can spell it out for you. Maybe not.

IMHO it's a FREAKIN AWESOME idea. Why not have a direct interaction with your subconcious? Why not take complete control of your dreams every now and then. Why not use lucid dreaming for personal growth, or to counter personal demons such as smoking or other addictions? Or as the very BEST personal passtime ever?

Why not enjoy this third of your life instead of sleeping through and forgetting it?

I seriously doubt anyone who has experienced true lucid dreaming would ever be against it.

The only thing that is totally over my head right now is the ambiguous nature of your posts, why don't you spell it out for me, I am intrigued.

Why all the hostility :-/ I'm not even going to get into why Lucid Dreaming is necessary for spiritual evolution because I have a feeling it would be like banging my head against a brick wall trying to explain anything to you. All i'll say is don't tear into a subject you know nothing about. Also I had a recurring nightmare for years and becoming lucid in that nightmare and facing it is the only way I managed to stop it (just to blow your arguement out of the water). As you can see i've even based my username on my love for lucid dreaming, its like living 2 lives, you can do things that might be to dangerous/fatal, get answers to questions, psysic visions and the list goes on and on... Don't try put people down when you clearly have no idea what your talking about, or maybe you tried and failed.

Thanks for your comment.

The reason i ask for if lucid dreaming is dangerous, is because I see the subconscious as a very wonderful type of energy, the higher self it's like, and I wouldn't want to compromise it with my conscious. Thus, is it better they stay separated? Though my intent through lucid dreaming is to rectify my conscious mind, its fears, etc.. I have the feeling it is as spiritual as an ayahuasca trip in that it can cure you in all sorts of ways psychologically.

No it is NOT a good idea. You let things "in" you cannot control. Whether you "can" do it or not does not mean you should.

I dont claim to be any kind of master but I do know a few things. In my opinion Lucid Dreaming isn't just a trip to the unconscious but a different state of reality, as in different frequency or dimention if you believe in that type of thing. It is a great point about keeping the conscious and unconscious separated though, heres what you do! Before you sleep intending to Lucid Dream you have to say to yourself, in whatever way suits you, "I want to come back to myself fully conscious of physical reality but keep the memories of my journey". Thats really a rule for meditating aswell, it can be easy for some to get lost even though it wont seem obvious. Its cured me of some psychological issues and past trauma but care does need to be taken, baby steps. You should look up 'Dream Yoga' its basically what the Buddhists call it. Hope this helps :-)

Good question, I guess, although I thought my point was obvious. I no longer have this scary dream because the last one was lucid. Therefore lucid dreaming, for me at least, was not, in this case, a negative thing.

Sorry but wrong. Once you meditate and build up your vibrations, stay away from alcohol a few days before you intend to Lucid Dream, not eating meat also helps. Just like nightmares, if you attract negative energy in your sleep it will manifest in Lucid Dreams. Also if your afraid or nervous you will manifest your fear. Like anything, you need to know what your doing! You wouldn't take a huge chainsaw to a tree unless you had training would you?

I disagree with you. Although some of us are given this gift, veryyyyyyy few are capable of handling what they may face within the dream state. Suggesting it is irresponsible.

I didn't suggest it and i'm not saying you said I did. But to put fear in somone by saying you let things in you can't control isn't very helpful for somone who feels like they want to try and are looking for advice. I'm assuming OP has done some research and is ready to try, your right some people shouldn't do it they aren't stable minded.

If there is something in a dream you cannot 'handle' (whatever that means), then you are not truly lucid.

Exploring the possibilities offered by lucid dreaming is the only way, IMO, to figure out what you're doing. If I'm wrong, I think I'm missing something here.

I don't mind being wrong, btw. Please just politely point out how I'm wrong.

As has been mentioned above, it is probably right to say that lucid dreaming is OK for some, not for others.

I'll tell all of you one thing, though: lucid dreaming is interesting and a heck of a lot of fun!

Ooops, looks like I told you TWO things. :-)

Even people with a stable mind are not prepared for the things they will encounter. They may not even recognize the dangers and in ignorance let things in.

I've reached a point of my development and understanding that I know what to do if a problem were to arise. That is simply not an issue, at all.

The question remains: is it compromising the subconscious by allowing the conscious to be active, at that time?

Yes

This was the way for me anyway. I did all the trying and exploring first then read about all the things I was doing wrong and how my own fears played a part after.. Each to their own spiritual path IMHO, what works fo some may not work for others. It is fun thats a fact :-)

For OP, this is The Holy Bible on Lucid Dreaming in my opinion. A lot of great advice it there [link to www.amazon.com]

Lmao....I work at Amazon.com. I wouldnt trust any material from them. j/k...sort of

In short, IMHO No! The whole point of meditating is to quiet the conscious mind to listen to the unconscious / highter self. Buddha and thousands of monks can't be wrong :-) Don't let your fears hold you back.

Stephen LaBerge is the most highly recognised in this field. Its trustworthy :-D

Maybe so but Amazon just had us on mandatory OT al week and we will be next week too so right now I have nothing good to say about them lol

Fair enough, OP, buy it in Boarders lol