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Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?

 
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Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
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Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?
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Most have, but those that haven't set them self up will not be disappointed.
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I Love Santa Christ, He brings me Gifts at Christmas and Candy Easter s on Easter.
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Jesus is a fairytale..idjits
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Jesus is a fairytale..idjits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17444403


Really ?

I think he was real but people have invented fairy tales about him.
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I love HIM, not out of fear, but of thankfulness for dying for my sins. HE gave the greatest gift to every man and woman and child, how could you not love HIM?
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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Yes, this and, "idondtknowwhattodoness"
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Yes. Fear is the great motivator utilized by all religions.
It is not what was taught by Jesus though. And he never created or set up a church or religion. All he ever said was to meet together often and discuss the things he taught; to learn and keep practicing his concepts and methods so that we too, could do the miracles as he did.

But instead we have been the unwitting pawns of manipulation, coercion and control for millenia via someone else's interpretation of what God's purpose for us might be.
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I am a sinner and I come short of the glory of God. I thank him for atoning for me because I am not worthy.

hf
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


I cannot tell you how much Jesus has helped me. Just today. I was in DIRE need of an item and prayed last night to receive it with no cost out of pocket.
Someone showed up at my door this morning and took me to buy the EXACT item I needed. This has been the story of my life.
If Jesus DOESN'T rapture me and if he and FATHER GOD decide I belong in HELL.... that is okay by me.
They are faithful, their judgement is correct and it will be what I DESERVE.
BUT THANKFULLY, Jesus and GOD THE FATHER do NOT give you what you DESERVE. The whole point of Jesus coming was to point out that GOD is so loving he give you what you DON'T DESERVE.
It is a BEAUTIFUL thing.....
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He is the one and only way to God. One can't even go to Him unless it was given by God.
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So do, no doubt.
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I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


SALVATION!!
We who believe in YahuShua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ turn to Him to get saved and receive the ultimate gifts from Him!

Eternal Life, great rejoicing and Love!!!

the part with the great rejoicing comes when we meet Him in the air beeing caught up with Him and going to Heaven to abide there for 7 years until we come back with Him when he will destroy all evil and wicked and remake the earth after the rule of the devils servants teh antichrist and teh false prophet.


and more: a universe as playground (in the 8th day, afte rthe Millenium)

Note regarding Heaven: it is a place outside time and space. The Bosom of the Father.

This YT account will lead you to a by GLP "forbidden website" because they hate God and The Truth absolute:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


I cannot tell you how much Jesus has helped me. Just today. I was in DIRE need of an item and prayed last night to receive it with no cost out of pocket.
Someone showed up at my door this morning and took me to buy the EXACT item I needed. This has been the story of my life.
If Jesus DOESN'T rapture me and if he and FATHER GOD decide I belong in HELL.... that is okay by me.
They are faithful, their judgement is correct and it will be what I DESERVE.
BUT THANKFULLY, Jesus and GOD THE FATHER do NOT give you what you DESERVE. The whole point of Jesus coming was to point out that GOD is so loving he give you what you DON'T DESERVE.
It is a BEAUTIFUL thing.....

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


Proclaim NOT the Hell of the Churches of Men... In Their Words is No Mercy Found, Only the Makings of Satan

1/14/06 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Thus says The Lord:
Listen, all you churches of men! Shall I, even I, torment My beloved, those who are continually tormented by he who is and has torment in his vesture?!... Satan is the tormentor!...

By your own mouths have you unknowingly called your God, satan! Repent therefore, and mend your ways and your doings! Forsake all your corrupt and evil teachings!... Become again a child of God, and learn to walk uprightly in Me, leading others to Love, by love, not fear.
My children, the second death is that grave, from which one shall not be raised nor awakened. For they have been cast out, abiding in outer darkness, forever separated from God and their part in life. These know nothing at all, returning to that from which they were formed. Beloved, THIS is the eternal state of My punishment, for those who have chosen death; for they have rejected The Gift, wherein is life everlasting. So then those under condemnation are dead; in no way are they part of the living, nor are they living in torment... Their inheritance is lost, they have been blotted out, broken vessels of dishonor received by the earth once again.



Therefore, stop blaspheming your God!
And have greater understanding of My Mercy, which endures forever...

For My Son did sleep in the lower parts of the earth, His tomb,
For three days and three nights...

By no means did He descend
Into the evils of man’s imaginings!



HE IS THE PURE LIGHT!...

Never has He had any part in darkness!
Behold, He shall destroy it utterly!

For HE IS RISEN!...

And all those, who believe in Him and walk in His ways,
Shall also rise and live, meeting Him in the air...

And forever shall they be with their Lord and their God,
Where all shall find mercy and love.



For more check this YT account:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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I love HIM, not out of fear, but of thankfulness for dying for my sins. HE gave the greatest gift to every man and woman and child, how could you not love HIM?
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hf

I try my best to do good, for myself and others, it seems rare these days that people will really TRY to do much of anything besides what they want to do or what they have to do to earn money to buy the materialistic things they want.

There is so much more to being alive than that, living, consuming and dying is so shallow of an existence to me!

God wanted so much more for us.
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people pander to "jesus" because they haven't done what Our Lady wants which is to say the rosary. Well it's their own fault. Nobody told me about the rosary. I had to find out all on my own.
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I love HIM, not out of fear, but of thankfulness for dying for my sins. HE gave the greatest gift to every man and woman and child, how could you not love HIM?
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This is why OP. Your relationship to Christ is through Love and not subjugation.
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Yes, we do. We are going to be "saved" in the end. This is not out of "fear" but reward of the new earth where the "saved" will be. The "lost" will not be there.

Make sure you are there!
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I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Hey Asshole...
The muzzies would LOVE to remove your head simply because...you don't believe.

And yet you badger Christians?

Get your act together.
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Hey Asshole...
The muzzies would LOVE to remove your head simply because...you don't believe.

And yet you badger Christians?

Get your act together.
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Only one reason YOUR god will kill YOU, forever.
Reverend Lovejoy: Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom.

"I am Jack's medulla oblongata, without me Jack could not regulate his heart rate, blood pressure or breathing!"

"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone”

"The flutes of the chi will sound again, my friend."

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Jesus is amazing! He can burp butterflies and fart rainbows! He sneezes glitter and pukes up candy bars by the dozen! He even pees chocolate! This is not made up! It's real! I had a dream about it, so it must be true!
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Hey Asshole...
The muzzies would LOVE to remove your head simply because...you don't believe.

And yet you badger Christians?

Get your act together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19980561


Asshole for asking a harmless question ?

Eat shit fuckface charlie
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


I don't pander....I praise.

I don't worry.....I love.

My LORD is love and truth, light and life.

The opposite is hatered, anger, darkness, lies and death.

There is no middle ground Anyone that tries to tell you there is some shade of gray if full of bull ............so

chose your side and chose it wisely.

I don't believe that it says in the bible anywhere that if you believe you will be 'raptured" outta here and not have to endure the tribulation.

What it does say is that we are to "endure to the end".

This doesn't mean you are to endure physically til you die physically......

it means that you are to "believe" and never give up your faith in Jesus........until you die. (no matter what happens to your physical body)
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Re: Do people only pander to " Jesus " because they think they wil be " raptured " or " saved " somehow ?
I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


Hey Asshole...
The muzzies would LOVE to remove your head simply because...you don't believe.

And yet you badger Christians?

Get your act together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19980561


Asshole for asking a harmless question ?

Eat shit fuckface charlie
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Well, For what it is worth. This is the way I look at it. If Christ, a man who lived a perfect life died on a cross. Then why should I have a ticket out of suffering. Christ seems to make it very clear that the we, as his children, are called to share in his sufferings. I am not going to sit around and wait for angels to swoop me off of this planet. I know my flesh will die but my spirit will live with him one day.

This is not something that can simply be put into words. If you truly are interested you should try to stop grouping the spirit of christ in with the spirit that clearly leads the organizations of the "religious".

Money Money Money. I find it funny that the 10percent that is pushed so heavily in churches these days is the exact amount in which the hypocrite christ spoke of gave. Very clever and deceptive. Many do not even realize this. He does not desire our money. He desires our hearts. So many people build checklists for themselves..."read the bible...check...give 10 percent...check....Go to church...check...tell someone you love them...check, ok now I can do what I want to do."

Therefore I see the ticket out of this world as a fake doctrine spread by TBN and the 700 club. So I do not follow Christ out of fear. I follow christ because he gave me a gift. While my flesh (mind, body, desires of the flesh) are weak his spirit holds me together.
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I see so many people saying things like " He's my lord and my king, and he's so righteous, etc ".

Are they doing that out of fear ? Perhaps because they have some ideas about a " rapture " event ?

Will they still say the same things if " Jesus " shows up and turns out to be a regular 'ol Joe just like the rest of us ?

Have they set themselves up for disappointment ?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045680


If what Jesus did is true then he is worthy of worship. I believe what he did is true. I mean think about it. If God asked you to die (not just die but be tortured) in a legal exchange so that sinners can be freed, what would you say? thats what God asked me and i decided Jesus did something extraordinary, something not many others would do even if it were possible.

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