need some advice from you old people

Ever think about the military? Just choose a job that will benefit you when you get out.

That`s not advice.
But cool story brah.

Here's my advice...
Don't seek advice on glp!

I think you already have a lot of the answers you are looking for.

Peace

FIgure out what you are really good at and then find a good way to do it.

Get an education. Even if it doesn't lead to a career, you will never regret the knowledge. Just don't go into huge debt to do it.

In fact, avoid debts of all kinds, especially credit card debts. Don't charge up more than you can pay off in a month. Pay yourself first every month by putting some money into a savings account each month. Be disciplined about it even if it is only 20 bucks a month at times.

Also, keep in mind that most of the things you will worry about, will never happen.

Don't marry until you are around 30 and then only marry for true love, friendship and companionship. Those are the things that last. Sex comes and goes at various times, so do not marry somewhat just because you have the hots for her. Lots of women will turn on your body but only a special few will turn on your soul.

You do not need to plan out your life, just start with the next five or ten years and then assess your life. You will have grown and changed greatly by then in what you want and how you want to live your live.

Be of good character and not lie. One thing about telling the truth is that you never have to remember just who you told what to.

In the end, only kindness matters so be kind and generous but do not be taken in by the falseness of strangers.

Give people time to show you who they are before you decide how much of a relationship you want with him or her.

Last but not least, practice safe sex and always use a condom. Do not leave babies all over the place. It is the one sure way to ruin your life. Wait until you are older to have a family. You will be happier and better prepared.

GOD has a better plan for you rather than this sorry world system..

Lean on him

Trust him

Ask him to guide your life...

Well said and as for the easy to find jobs back then, they involved a lot more physical labor. These were the days before everything was unionized and men worked damn hard. Technology was just getting going and men came home tired and dirty. Not all mind you but more than not. Cushy jobs were not the norm. :) You just gotta do it. Hard work makes you sleep better and is fulfilling, don't be afraid of it. :)

The blue fairy is right that you should aim for what thrills you ...but...if it's being an opera singer or something else that has less than a powerball lottery chance of paying your bills, suggest you work towards a job that won't take up all your mind and heart and get good enough at it to make money and then throw all your non-work time into your passion.

At the University of Idaho music majors have a choice of double majors designed to enable them to get a paying job and also follow their musical dreams. Music isn't about money, it's about energy and vibration...but that may not be your thing at all....

So, first, what are you good at and what do you like to do?

If you don't know, try a test like this one:

[link to www.humanmetrics.com]

They suggest career possibilities.

Don't worry about the economy. Things change - and fast. Spend your energy getting really good at logic, math, languages, and your passion (fill in the blank), NOT worrying.

You need at least 2 probably 3 or 4 languages. English, Spanish if you're in the USA, French if you're in the north, and Mandarin or Japanese. At least read the Kanji. If you haven't noticed, it's everywhere.

Learn them while you're young. It's harder when you're old.

Have fun!!!

This is wrong... I'm over 60.. successful.. and 139 IQ.. Quit school..it's useless.. that world has ended..and the game has changed.. new rules.. work for yourself.. do not work for the man.. find a business. millions of us have done it. Stay as far away as you can from joining the fools that still think this world has a future, chance or any prospect of becoming a healthy happy place to be.. However, you will always have the power to make your life a better one.. if you take control of it and become your own master... GL

I know that it SEEMS like it was a wonderful life back in the 50's-70's, but...... having actually lived it, it just wasn't that wonderful from my point of view. It was a very conflicting time for women. Sure, jobs were available, the minimum wage was 1.60 in 1973. Yes, items cost less, but we made a whole lot less.

So now for you. Furthering your education is important, but just attending does not make it. You must look around & find something that peaks your interest & keeps you interested. If you like what you do, you will always do what you like, everyday.

I'm not dismissing college, but to just occupy a spot when you are not truly interested, is not preparing you for anything in the future. I've always thought it was ridiculous to expect an 18-20something to be able to decide what they want to do for the rest of their life. This is why so many people hate their jobs!

Get out, see the world, put things in perspective. Recognize that you only have the power to change you. What's going to happen, is ging to happen whether worry about it or not. If it doesn't happen, look at all the time you have wasted.

My advice is to "Get a Life". Volunteer at a local nursing home a couple of hours a week. Attend a local city council meeting once a month, listen & learn. Take a walk & concentrate on the beauty around you. Stay curious. Cultivate your sense of humor, learn not to expect perfection in yourself or anyone else. When you start to dwell on negatives, list twice as many positives in you life. All this gloom & doom is not good for anyone.

I remember bombing drills at school when I was in 2nd grade. Not so wonderful & very frightening. I remember the day Kennedy was assasinated, I was in 3rd grade. We were all frightened & did not know what would happen next. My parents stored water & food in the basement in case we were bombed by the Russians.

So you see, nothing has really changed. They love to hype up the drama. They love to keep us on the edge & anxious. Live for today. Yesterday is gone & tomorrow is only an expectation & a promise. Today is all we really have, enjoy it & find that one thing, that when you do it, it makes you smile & you realize that you want to do it everyday for the rest of your life. Then, you will know that you have gotten a life!

Humor is one of the keys! Curiousity is another. Love & acceptance are 2 more. Trust that there is a power greater than yourself & that there is a plan & a purpose. We are all exactly where we are suppose to be, doing exactly what we are suppose to do. Just do the next right thing. That's all any of us can do. Trust your heart over your brain & you will find happiness.

the world is always reborn. Its not rocket science. Keep your overheads and expenditure LOW. Don't hook up with a high maintenance woman. DO a year in Sth America or somewhere similar. Its educational, awe-inspiring, healthy and the best time of your life, and it matures you. You will learn to look after yourself. Take your woman with you and test her resilience.
An old canefarmer cornered me one afternoon. These were his revelations fwiw and I have listened to them as he was wise:
Grow your wealth slowly. Find a good wife then don't fiddle around with other women. They all have their own problems and only stay new for a brief while. All his elderly friends that were broke were divorced. The old girl takes half and the new girl the rest. Buy the neighbouring property if it comes up. (He was talking farmland)
Good luck.
Seriously, take a year to travel. Somewhere you might not think is easy. It makes you. Try climbing just about every volcano in Sth America. Its not hard. Its not expensive. Its fucking awesome. Everyone thinks your fucking mad. But it makes you strong of mind and body. And they'll all still be there when you get back. (But you might not want to be back)
The world will not collapse in a moment. It will take decades at the very least. And in that time a new world will be created. No one had heard on the internet in 95. Now a 13yo can learn how to weld, garden, dance, fight, speak, if they want - all in the palm of their hand. What new paradigm is before us.....

get boots on the ground skill(s)

telecom power wireless gas oil etc..

general utilities they can't upload to india for $50 a day.

This is the very BEST advice you have been given.

Move to a rural community. Move in with extended family if you have to (cousins, an aunt, an uncle, etc.).

Find work in a small town or work for room and board and small wages for someone (preferably family) who owns tillable land on a sharecropping basis.

The rules for sharecropping are: you buy the seed, you do the planting and harvesting, and you get to keep one-third of the profit that the landowner receives after selling the crops you raised.

Move to a rural area

work for room and board and small wages on the land

profit from your work on the land

buy some of your own land (1 acre is enough, 5 acres are better & but make it remotely located and get a verbal agreement to buy more adjacent land SOON)

build a pole barn on your land and live in it with a homemade wood stove

plant your own crops and after harvest sell most of your food crops at the local Farmer's Market

can, dry, freeze, or other wise preseve all food crops that you do not sell or eat fresh

plant a 7-tree fruit and nut orchard (apple, peach, plum, cherry, lemon, walnut, pecan)

dry, can, or market any excess fruit and freeze or market any excess nuts

build your own house (with a metal roof) with an attached garage on your own land and live in it (build the garage first and then the house)

dig a water well, put in a rain-catchment (cistern) system, or develop a spring on your property

trade a share of the crops you've raised on your land for stock (animals) for your farm

the first stock should be a chicken, a rooster, and a pair of goats (one female and one billy goat)

drink the goat milk and use any excess to make butter, cheese, and sour cream

market any excess dairy goods to close neighbors

build a farm pond by damming a creek or stream with a spillover

seal the bottom of the pond with clay dug from the ground to hollow it out for the pond and allow the clay to dry

make the pond deep enough so the bottom water layer does not freeze in winter

allow your pond to fill with rainwater

add 5 plastic water bottles full of fluid taken from an older established healthy pond to your farm pond (this establishes healthy microbiota in your pond)

stock your farm pond with a variety of fish (run your pond like a pay lake for a while if you need money)

plant blackberry, raspberry, and blueberry bushes, strawberries, and grapes to one side of the orchard

make and market preserves from the excess berries and make jelly and wine from the grapes in the fall

buy two Mallard ducks from a wild duck farm, place the ducks and an ample supply of loose corn (grown on your land) next to your farm pond

the ducks you bought will go get some friends to share the corn

now you have fish in your pond and ducks on your pond (an occasional duck can end up on your table

duck eggs can be gathered and eaten if desired too

buy another chunk of land adjacent to your first piece of land, hunt and trap on your second piece of land

build a smoke house and smoke/dry, can, or salt the meat to preseve it

build a box and frames to keep bees and purchase a queen bee and some workers; keep the bees in the orchard

market the honey you don't eat yourself

raise timothy orchard grass (hay) on any part of your land that is tillable and not needed for other crops


Well, that's my 2 cents anyway...the above is what I would do if I was 21.

Last Edited by Biochemky on 12/01/2012 12:43 AM

your age is nothing more than trying to figue out what institute owns you. either children or goals will then control you, everyting you will understand will only be by design of your eldeers, and nothing nmkes sense!
Thus, layman terms: the world that you know is ran by reptillians, wars are only sacrifices for population control, and if your genreation can make it through, feel lucky, as most are sacrificed to this earths god.
Lastly, nothing is was it seems!
best of luck

Lot of young geniuses in your boat. Don't worry. Harness the energy on the 22nd and run with it.

Namaste

And you think OP that it is different than what it was in those days. Many people did not work that good of a job in the '60's. The Israeli War was going on starting in 1967. Ya, perhaps the '50's were alright, too young to realize anything, and now just like then, you are starting to realize how screwed up this world can be, well, in a sense it always has been that way. Before you could get a job out of high-school but if you think working in a factory is fun, it was not. It is hard work. Same as before, except they won't really tell you - go in to the military, serve your Nation, and get rewards. Go to college, and make sure you take something and actually get good grades but do not expect a social life in either process because that is what wrecks it, trying to have fun and a social life.

Just do not get caught up in anything, because right now you think you need electronics or whatever to make you feel better. You will find out that there is only 24 hours in the day, and all the energy (or nervousness) or excitement you think you should have - does not really make any difference.

Of course it is not the same, people could hitch-hike and gas was cheaper and young people did more together but if going that route you have to realize that you will have to do something in the end. That is what happened later to us, either go back to college, or work hard and still be left without a job for the most part. If you know someone who can make you train for something like welding, or working on an oil rig (?) or something like that, it may be something for you, except perhaps becoming a carpenter or plumber or anything like that. Except they will also be needed also, there are those type of jobs, if lucky to get into those.

Whatever it is, you probably will not actually like it though, but just learn to relax and take it without getting all weird about it, and dare I say - angry or anything else.

The world will eventually change, the people will change, but how this time, may take longer to do, if it does it at all.

Take in all the DOOM but do not let it affect you too much.

Remember years were spent with the Cold War and the threat of being wiped out at any time for any reason. Try to smile more and love more, and not get caught up like some young people do. Do not try to make a slave out of anyone, and remember mainly that although it is a later time than then, it still is the same type of world.

You just hear more of it, because the knowledge travels faster with the Internet. Talk to people (your age or a little older) and do not get caught up in their problems, because everyone has problems no matter at what time you are in your life.

Learn meditation if it bothers you with the world, and learn how to deeply relax because there will probably be people who will help you (although at the time you may not realize it and they won't actually be close friends) and there will be also those people who only want and will end up trying to use you for nothing good for you, but only for their (his/her) self.

The only answer that can be given to you is that you will have to decide on what it is that you want to do, and beating your head against the wall won't do any good, or trying to do too much trying to find out.

If you feel left out, well, join some of the other people who have gone through the same thing, but it is not a committee or a club or anything like that. People join the armed forces because they have nothing else to help them along. College is fine but with the current economy and some people thinking they can work forever - just in my opinion tells me that they already have lost probably a good chuck of their brain, and have in fact become kind of dictators.

Well, babbled on too long and that is all that it has ever been anyway. A tech job of some sort, (welding, whatever) or something like that, college, or the military. Same ol' choices and either the world lives or the bad stuff comes. Nothing has changed really!

And don't try to start a job on your own or business. If you are dependable then they will want you to probably work if they have something that you can do.

First you have to make some money somehow, and then perhaps20 years later or so, you may want to branch out on your own, or perhaps not.

Drinking too much will not help, getting mad will not help, nothing really helps all that much, it can just suspend for a brief while the crap that is the world.

Riots, Vietnam, people acting out, whatever, may happen again, and perhaps a little worse, if the Government don't get their crap heads together along with the president.

Freedom is one thing, but talking with people may help to drag you on through. The world will still be crap when you get older also.

Oh, I forgot the Korean War in the '50's. That was a bad war for the soldiers being cluttered F*** in it.

Well, so much for the world, they try to make it better, so they say, but still it essentially ends up about the same, except now I think they have sort of lost most of their brains anymore.

Same ol' same ol' world for the most part!

OP, I am retired after 31 years and I look at what is going on today and I really feel for you young people. I don't know what I would do in your shoes.

I just hope you don't get down on yourself, it is the system that has let you down. From the looks of it, it is going to get much worse before it gets better. Just try to ride it out and hopefully someone at the top will turn things around. I wish I could give you more hope than that but I just don't see these politicians even trying to correct this mess.

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Besides the Civil Rights movement of the '60's and I guess some people have to be reminded of these events they lived through, just have the same attitude:

Don't actually have a "Do Not Disturb" sign on your door, but just the attitude!

I used to have good advice but I'm just stunned with what's going on.

Believe that you were born for these times OP. There is no proof of it, but it is a notion that is worth believing in. You are thoughtful and aware - both essential qualities with the challenges ahead. Think ahead, but experience the present with gusto. Do not cripple yourself with debt. You empower yourself when you speak your truth. If you lie or break your word, you diminish yourself. Get a passport, maybe learn a second language. Stay in shape. Learn practical skills. Learn a trade that won't be replaced by a robot or off-shored. You sound like a son your parents are already proud of. Give yourself a break. You are still so young. There is so much ahead of you.

You might want to watch the movie, "Water for Elephants."
I wish you all the best.

This whole thing is oddly backward. The older generation is positioning itself to be parasites of the young.

There is no system that can sustain itself by putting an astronomical burden of guilt on the young to accomplish things that are impossible.

Along with the "Do Not Disturb" attitude, you will still have to learn how to listen and respond to people.

O.P.,

I'm three times your age.

If I were handing out advice, I might say:

Do your best to stay out of debt.
Big trap. Ever more so these days.

Continue/allow the clarification process that is already underway to progress
THAT is your ace in the hole right now.
Maybe you're being tapped/groomed to pull some others out of the fire.
I was.
The reward wasn't and hasn't been, and won't be in things of this world, however. In fact, in terms of the things of this world, I've lost.
I didn't play the game most did, to the extent they invested themselves, even then.
But it was easy enough to take peripheral, low to the ground, low key paths and, "make it," survive just fine within the culture at large.

Not anymore. Not at all. Avenues have intentionally been blocked off.

And with that, take everything I've said with a grain of salt.
Test it.
Test everything, in fact.

Best to you.

P.S. I am saddened at the state of affairs that young people find themselves in.
When I was your age any 40 hour a week job, no matter how modest, would support me in modest yet decent digs by myself, no room mates, with money for necessities and some pleasures.
You could kick a job to the curb and go out and get a better one that day. I did.

What you find yourself in now is, indeed, grievous.

You're going about it the right way.

If you can't find a job right now, then get the schooling/training needed to find employment.

The worst thing you could do is get discouraged and start laying around the house doing nothing. If you can't find work that pays, consider doing some type of community work or charity work. It could pay off in the long run since you'll be getting out and meeting people and could learn some valuable skills in the process.

When you do find work, even if it doesn't pay a lot, get in the habit of paying yourself first. ALWAYS put away something for a rainy day, even if it seems like it's such a small amount that it couldn't possibly amount to much. It will add up, and you'll be happy you did should something unexpected happen.

When you do get married, more than likely the both of you will be out working. Don't make the mistake of getting used to and depending on the extra income. Continue to depend ONLY on the one income. Use the other paycheck to purchase things you want or need or to add to your savings. Then should something happen later on, if the wife wants to take time off work to raise the kids or if she HAS to stay home because of a sickly child, you won't find yourself financially strapped since you'll be used to getting by on the one income.

Just a few things to consider. Good luck to you!!

More Doing and less talking. Find a need and fill it. Give and it will be given unto you. Quit focusing on yourself. Make this a better world starting with The world you see. We grew up in the 70s wit out an internet. It is a major advantage to get connected.You can start your own business right from your smart phone and computer. Just do people right and you will grow.

O/P I'm from the UK, and I'm 53. In the early 1980's I was your age. At that time, the world, and particularly the UK ware going through tough times - inflation peaked at 25%! The UK was experiencing the same decline as a world leader just as America is going through now.

My first advice to you would have been don't go to college. There was no internet when I was your age, I went to the library and bought books to educate myself. This was during my apprenticeship as an electrician. I also spent my teen years working part time at a local garage learning about is auto mechanics.

During all my life anything that I have learned has never been wasted. I had an instinctive distrust of the media and authority. My world view was very different than others. I could see much of what I was being TOLD did not add-up. My friends and working colleagues were interest in my views, but for entertainment rather than anything else.

I would advise you to avoid any more debt (I have never been in debt). Forget about doom and gloom, you only have very little control. You can not prep for you whole family let alone yourself. having a years food is unlikely to be enough if WWIII erupts, or if all hell breaks loose.

Find yourself life SKILLS - anything... EVERYTHING! Take jobs that will give you skills. Money should only be a priority is you should stumble on something that pays well. Enjoy life, do not thing that money and possessions will bring you happiness / contentment... It doesn't and won't.

I am not short of money, in fact in some ways it is a burden, as are possessions. My car is 23 years old, my motorbike 10 years old, the computer I'm writing this on is a $200 netbook. I have tools that allow me do do all the things I enjoy in life - mending making things.

Find out what you love doing, and do it! See if you can earn a crust. Discuss doom with the pleasure of knowing that you are enlightened, but like a condemned man do not dwell on thing you have little control over. Most of all, be at peace with yourself, and treasure your friends, family and people about you.

:This^^^:

You are obviously under the impression that what you do with your life makes a difference in the grand scheme of things. As america is on the downhill slide to socialism anyway, your efforts to prepare yourself to compete are meaningless and a waste of time and effort. You should spend your youth pursuing adventure and experiencing a wide range of environments. Travel a lot and see the world. Make lots and lots of exotic friends. Be an interesting person. If you waste yourself and your energy trying to accumulate a lot of things you will soon realize that your things don't belong to you, you belong to them. Deal with your problems as they arise. Fix them if you can and ignore them and move on if you can't. In summary, you must strive to have a good time and not step on too many toes in the process. Good Luck.