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God is A Mathematician

 
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God is A Mathematician
God is A Mathematician
By Keith Newman.


The authenticity of the Holy Bible has been attacked at regular intervals by atheists and theologians alike but none have explained away the mathematical seal beneath its surface.

It would seem the divine hand has moved to prevent counterfeiting in the pages of the Bible in a similar manner to the line that runs through paper money. Bible numerics appears to be God's watermark of authenticity.
Vital research on this numeric seal was completed by a native of the world's most reknowned atheistic nation, Russia. Ivan Panin was born in Russia on December 12, 1855. As a young man he was an active nihilist and participated in plots against the Czar and his government. He was a mathematical genius who died a Harvard scholar and a citizen of the United States in 1942.

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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
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If you are looking for mathematical evidence for divine design (therefore God), spend the next six months studying the research at:
[link to smphillips.8m.com]
Here is TRUE unification of all sacred geometries and how they embody in analogous ways scientific information about the nature of matter.
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
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It's showing that our world was designed by a great intelligence and that the bible numerics is proof that it was inspired by God. It wasn't just random.

hf
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"It seems to be one of the fundamental features of nature that fundamental physical laws are described in terms of a mathematical theory of great beauty and power, needing quite a high standard of mathematics for one to understand it. You may wonder: Why is nature constructed along these lines? One can only answer that our present knowledge seems to show that nature is so constructed. We simply have to accept it. One could perhaps describe the situation by saying that God is a mathematician of a very high order, and He used very advanced mathematics in constructing the universe. Our feeble attempts at mathematics enable us to understand a bit of the universe, and as we proceed to develop higher and higher mathematics we can hope to understand the universe better."

P.M. Dirac
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
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It's showing that our world was designed by a great intelligence and that the bible numerics is proof that it was inspired by God. It wasn't just random.

hf
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Have you seen the movie Pi?

If not you should.

Tbh I've always liked the idea that all text contains fragments of a pattern.
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"It seems to be one of the fundamental features of nature that fundamental physical laws are described in terms of a mathematical theory of great beauty and power, needing quite a high standard of mathematics for one to understand it. You may wonder: Why is nature constructed along these lines? One can only answer that our present knowledge seems to show that nature is so constructed. We simply have to accept it. One could perhaps describe the situation by saying that God is a mathematician of a very high order, and He used very advanced mathematics in constructing the universe. Our feeble attempts at mathematics enable us to understand a bit of the universe, and as we proceed to develop higher and higher mathematics we can hope to understand the universe better."

P.M. Dirac
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
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Psalm 19:1 "The heavens proclaim the glory of God. The skies display his craftsmanship."
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yep!

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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yet you discount many none devine sources from your logic.

To claim divinity of origin you must first have absolute proof that the Devine exists, or one could simply say aliens did it.
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Yes he is everything is about numbers great post Lisahf
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Yes he is everything is about numbers great post Lisahf
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Yep, the evidence of God is everywhere, in the Bible, in nature and even the human body!

One of my favorite all time videos, is this one by Mike Hoggard that shows everything that most people never realize, know, or think about. It's mind boggling!

"Science is catching up with the Bible! In this video, Pastor Michael Hoggard shows the amazing correlations between the Holy Bible and DNA, and how the Gospel message is literally encoded in our genetic structure."

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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yet you discount many none devine sources from your logic.

To claim divinity of origin you must first have absolute proof that the Devine exists, or one could simply say aliens did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


I understand. Before you bow your knee to God, you would rather bow your knee to some crazy aliens.
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So was Philo.

Math was practically a legend in his time, but that didn't stop him from identifying the root of all Logos.

AN OBSCURE WRITER.

Philo with twelve years' study hath been grieved
To be understood ; when will he be believed?
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yet you discount many none devine sources from your logic.

To claim divinity of origin you must first have absolute proof that the Devine exists, or one could simply say aliens did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


I understand. Before you bow your knee to God, you would rather bow your knee to some crazy aliens.
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


It is far better to live on your feet...than die on your knees.
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"the machine theory that came along in the 17th century gave a different kind of theology. God was like a machine maker who designed and made all the machinery of life as it were from outside. It was casting god in the image of technological man. God was like an engineer and a mathematician and the forms and purposes of things came from outside not from inside. When living organisms were thought of as organisms they possessed their own purposes, their own goal. What this revolution did was took the purposes and goals and shapes and forms , the designs, as they were called out of living organisms and put them outside nature into the mind of god"
 Quoting: aether
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Look how silent this thread is. Normally the atheists, God haters and scoffers would rip it apart, but this Panin guy is difficult to refute, isn't he?
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God is the ultimate scientist and mathematician. Not only that, he is the founder of Chaos theory. chuckle


The big bang, evolution, all started by his hand. He didn't lovingly craft everything individually like the bible would have us believe... no, he let everything evolve as it's own little miracle of free will.

The universe is the ultimate test of free will. Evolution. It is all about Evolution.
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Look how silent this thread is. Normally the atheists, God haters and scoffers would rip it apart, but this Panin guy is difficult to refute, isn't he?
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Oh, just wait till tomorrow when I pin it......LOL!

hf
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No matter how much "proof" you give of the validity of the Bible most will dispute it. Like Obummer..no matter how much crap he does to ruin this country...people STILL will vote for him. Bottom line: God says some will see, most won't...period. Broad is the way that leads to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to eternal life....and few
will find it. Paraphrased of course, but the bottom line is there will be few people destined for God's Kingdom...and the majority destined for the fires of hell. Good post.
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Thanks, Lisa :-)

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Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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God is God!
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God is God!
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yet you discount many none devine sources from your logic.

To claim divinity of origin you must first have absolute proof that the Devine exists, or one could simply say aliens did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


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I understand. Before you bow your knee to God, you would rather bow your knee to some crazy aliens.
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In the absence of sense my knees remain unbowed to anything.
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Isn't this looking at things backwards?

Applying math to explain the Universe is an expression of human thought not Biblical.

Just because 2+2=4 doesn't mean that something designed it that way simply that we have found the language capable of expressing it.

Nice post though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


Wrong conclusion. The Bible's "math code" is not used to explain the Universe. Human thought has not put the math (numerical seal) into the Bible, but was used by the author as a kind of watermark.
If the code is so complicated that no human is capable of devising such a code - and as mathematical genius Ivan Vital claims it to be - the authorship of the Bible must be divine.

This is the only logical conclusion to draw from such a numerical seal!
 Quoting: Tekunda 24223432


Yet you discount many none devine sources from your logic.

To claim divinity of origin you must first have absolute proof that the Devine exists, or one could simply say aliens did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24218469


:sdaliens:

LORD WILL THEY EVER SEE PAST THEIR OWN WRETCHED PRIDE?
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