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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21101820 United States 09/23/2012 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has gone insane.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Child support even as it stands now is some serious bullshit.. A woman can divorce the man for no damn reason at all, steal his children from him, then get a paycheck for the next 18 years for it... It's really unbelievable... If she uses the paycheck on herself and you can prove it you can actually sue for custody of the children back. Haha what a joke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2169888 United States 09/23/2012 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has gone insane.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Child support even as it stands now is some serious bullshit.. A woman can divorce the man for no damn reason at all, steal his children from him, then get a paycheck for the next 18 years for it... It's really unbelievable... You know, my ex blamed our divorce on EVERYTHING outside of his own failings as a father and husband. He would tell you to this day that I left for nothing. He went to two of his best friends stunned and shocked with the letter I left for him. Like best friends do - they tell you the truth - that you treated your wife like shit. All you have to do is be truthful to yourself - but then that would mean you have to change, wouldn't it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21101820 United States 09/23/2012 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The moral choice is to always be there as a safety net for you children. That's what good parents do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2169888 If you don't want children. Get a fucking vasectomy instead of blaming the one you irresponsibly impregnated and the resulting human beings you created as a result. You say that as thought women have no idea they will get pregnant when they have sex. Fuck you |
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Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Health Care Bill Closer to Reality, Child Support to be Extended to 26.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23995416 [link to www.the-spearhead.com] Isn't this just for insurance purposes? Yes it is. Custody Extension is NOT being passed through either the PPACA or HCERA. The Dependent Coverage for Adult Children mandate of the PPACA is very specific. The mandate ONLY applies to group health insurance plans... NOTHING ELSE. in addition the Adult Child mandate ONLY applies if the plan is designed to offer dependent coverage of children. So if an employer did not offer child coverage prior to September 3, 2010, the plan is not required to now offer dependent child coverage. However, if the plan does offer dependent child coverage the plan must make coverage available until the child turns age 26. With regards to GRANDFATHERED PLANS, the mandate provides a special transition period where Plans are not required to provide Adult Child coverage until January 1, 2014. OP not only does not know what the Dependent Child Mandate is of the PPACA but also misrepresents Grandfathered plans. The OP is either a dumb-ass or is lying to create fear. Last Edited by Frankenstein on 09/23/2012 08:58 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22828584 Austria 09/23/2012 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26 eh? so, what if the child gets an own child, grandchild support anyone? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22828584 Good one! the really funny part is, that this already happens. if your minor, gets a child out of wedlock you have to pay up until "your" kid turns 18 (or 21). [link to www.childsupportguidelines.com] this whole thing is such an obvious case of divide et impera, muhahahaha. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24133979 United States 09/23/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The moral choice is to always be there as a safety net for you children. That's what good parents do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2169888 If you don't want children. Get a fucking vasectomy instead of blaming the one you irresponsibly impregnated and the resulting human beings you created as a result. many men want to be fathers but their wives leave them for selfish reasons and then end up getting paid for it of course they feel entitled to it they ALWAYS get more money than they need for the child child support is based on income so they marry a rich guy, get knocked up, take his kids, then make him pay for the rest of his life.. it's sickening really and hey here's an idea... GET ON THE FUCKING PILL WHORE! You know I agree with this to some extent. I hate seeing men used for their money..and I am a woman. Its not fair to leave a man for selfish reasons and then expect to be paid and keep the kids...but it happens all the time. I have seen it the other way too..If the man has a bunch of money he leaves and takes the kids cause he can afford to pay for that good atty. I think it should go back to a fault system and the person who is at fault should pay and not get full custody. JMO! |
Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26 eh? so, what if the child gets an own child, grandchild support anyone? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22828584 Good one! Absolutely not. The PPACA addresses the Age 26 mandate very specifically. Code %152 (f) Children. Code %152(f) defines child as a son or daughter stepson, or stepdaughter of the taxpayer. or... an eligible foster child of the taxpayer. This definition is used when determining the taxability of employer provided coverage for children under 27. Code %105(b) Dependents. Code %105(b) dependents include an employee's "qualifying Children" and "qualifying Relatives" using slightly modified versions of the definitions of those terms that would be used to identify an employee's tax dependents. Therefore under these provisions of the law individuals such as grandsons and granddaughters are not required to be covered to age 26 under the Dependent Coverage for Adult Children mandate. Last Edited by Frankenstein on 09/23/2012 08:49 AM |
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Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS THREAD SHOULD BE UN-PINNED. It's premise is completely false and only encourages fear for the divorced men with child support responsibilities. They suffer enough without having to be subjected to this BULL SHIT Last Edited by Frankenstein on 09/23/2012 08:54 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15203438 Australia 09/23/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has gone insane.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Child support even as it stands now is some serious bullshit.. A woman can divorce the man for no damn reason at all, steal his children from him, then get a paycheck for the next 18 years for it... It's really unbelievable... wats even more ridiculous is that bad blokes will kill their wife before he lets her do that so all the breakups are the wrong breakups and secondly if its a daughter any ugly woman will easily find a new boyfriend as they will be eyeing of the daughter when she gets into her teens so any custody after a certain age should return to the father ya gotta trust the father more than some strange bloke the retarded mum happens to find, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24280152 United States 09/23/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Health Care Bill Closer to Reality, Child Support to be Extended to 26.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23995416 [link to www.the-spearhead.com] Isn't this just for insurance purposes? Yes it is. The Dependent Coverage for Adult Children mandate of the PPACA is very specific. The mandate ONLY applies to group health insurance plans... NOTHING ELSE. in addition the Adult Child mandate ONLY applies if the plan is designed to offer dependent coverage of children. So if an employer did not offer child coverage prior to September 3, 2010, the plan is not required to now offer dependent child coverage. However, if the plan does offer dependent child coverage the plan must make coverage available until the child turns age 26. With regards to GRANDFATHERED PLANS, the mandate provides a special transition period where Plans are not required to provide Adult Child coverage until January 1, 2014. OP not only does not know what the Dependent Child Mandate is of the PPACA but also misrepresents Grandfathered plans. The OP is either a dumb-ass or is lying to create fear. Irrelevant. Obamacare will be repealed in January. |
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Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Health Care Bill Closer to Reality, Child Support to be Extended to 26.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23995416 [link to www.the-spearhead.com] Isn't this just for insurance purposes? Yes it is. The Dependent Coverage for Adult Children mandate of the PPACA is very specific. The mandate ONLY applies to group health insurance plans... NOTHING ELSE. in addition the Adult Child mandate ONLY applies if the plan is designed to offer dependent coverage of children. So if an employer did not offer child coverage prior to September 3, 2010, the plan is not required to now offer dependent child coverage. However, if the plan does offer dependent child coverage the plan must make coverage available until the child turns age 26. With regards to GRANDFATHERED PLANS, the mandate provides a special transition period where Plans are not required to provide Adult Child coverage until January 1, 2014. OP not only does not know what the Dependent Child Mandate is of the PPACA but also misrepresents Grandfathered plans. The OP is either a dumb-ass or is lying to create fear. Irrelevant. Obamacare will be repealed in January. Don't count on it |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gentlemen who pay CS - bitches piss the money away that youre (court) ordered to pay. 95% of the children do not see a dime. as much as we all abhor govt involved in our lives - heres the payback - you could request that the CS monies go to a representative payee - theres volunteer (free) agencies in every city that do this.....THEY disburse the money to the mother - how? by paying bills direct. rent/shelter for kid? paid to landlord utilities for kid? paid directly to utils food? - shopping mart giftcard and mother must provide receipt to agency cloths? - giftcards - mother must provide receipt to agency transportation? bus passes issued your car/transportation - gas card issued - must provide receipt **no cash given** bitches wont see a dime bc the CS is under monthly audit. fathersrights orgs started this 10 yrs ago and slowly went national in every city - ***it is rare that the courts will deny this request - fathersrights orgs have had success in doing this*** Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/23/2012 09:03 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS THREAD SHOULD BE UN-PINNED. It's premise is completely false and only encourages fear for the divorced men with child support responsibilities. They suffer enough without having to be subjected to this BULL SHIT Quoting: Frankenstein your angers displaced - this fuckin LAW is enacted regardless of your liking. out of sight out of mind wont work here Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 09/23/2012 09:04 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gentlemen who pay CS - bitches piss the money away that youre (court) ordered to pay. 95% of the children do not see a dime. Quoting: Phennommennonn as much as we all abhor govt involved in our lives - heres the payback - you could request that the CS monies go to a representative payee - theres volunteer (free) agencies in every city that do this.....THEY disburse the money to the mother - how? by paying bills direct. rent/shelter for kid? paid to landlord utilities for kid? paid directly to utils food? - shopping mart giftcard and mother must provide receipt to agency cloths? - giftcards - mother must provide receipt to agency transportation? bus passes issued your car/transportation - gas card issued - must provide receipt **no cash given** bitches wont see a dime bc the CS is under monthly audit. fathersrights orgs started this 10 yrs ago and slowly went national in every city - Excellent program. Wish it had been around when i was making my payments to the bitch. And you are correct... my daughters never got the benefit of those payments. But the ex wore Victoria secret, drove BMW, had cosmetic surgery of disgusting face, tit job, belly tuck, vacations...etc. My daughters only got nice things when I gave them. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gentlemen who pay CS - bitches piss the money away that youre (court) ordered to pay. 95% of the children do not see a dime. Quoting: Phennommennonn as much as we all abhor govt involved in our lives - heres the payback - you could request that the CS monies go to a representative payee - theres volunteer (free) agencies in every city that do this.....THEY disburse the money to the mother - how? by paying bills direct. rent/shelter for kid? paid to landlord utilities for kid? paid directly to utils food? - shopping mart giftcard and mother must provide receipt to agency cloths? - giftcards - mother must provide receipt to agency transportation? bus passes issued your car/transportation - gas card issued - must provide receipt **no cash given** bitches wont see a dime bc the CS is under monthly audit. fathersrights orgs started this 10 yrs ago and slowly went national in every city - Excellent program. Wish it had been around when i was making my payments to the bitch. And you are correct... my daughters never got the benefit of those payments. But the ex wore Victoria secret, drove BMW, had cosmetic surgery of disgusting face, tit job, belly tuck, vacations...etc. My daughters only got nice things when I gave them. its been around since early 2000 that im aware. check your local city for a fathersrights org.....for help. or an atty. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Herman The Kid User ID: 16577681 United States 09/23/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First- Second-you nailed it. What people don't understand is that once a child from an unwed couple takes any government assistance (usually Medicaid from a hospital visit) DHR/Social Services will go after the dad like a hawk. Once they get him, they establish paternity, mandate child support (even if the mother didn't want him in the life of the child and never wanted him to know). Once child support is mandated, the dad faces losing his driver's license, going to jail and constant court fees and monitoring-control by the State. At 26, it is possible the check will be going to the "child" and paid into arrears to the State (50% is interest on missed payments while he wasn't aware he had a child) after past child support is paid. That way, no one ever gets out of the control of the State or is relieved of an obligation imposed on them which they had no idea of to keep paying the State interest and penalties. You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE. Psalm 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it. Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. |
Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS THREAD SHOULD BE UN-PINNED. It's premise is completely false and only encourages fear for the divorced men with child support responsibilities. They suffer enough without having to be subjected to this BULL SHIT Quoting: Frankenstein your angers displaced - this fuckin LAW is enacted regardless of your liking. out of sight out of mind wont work here You're reading too fast... missing context and point!!! I'm not arguing that... it's the law of the land and everybody will better off understanding it to their advantage instead of bitching about it. I am saying this thread's premise that the the ACA has passed a law which extends the child support to age 26 is completely wrong. Last Edited by Frankenstein on 09/23/2012 09:11 AM |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First- Second-you nailed it. What people don't understand is that once a child from an unwed couple takes any government assistance (usually Medicaid from a hospital visit) DHR/Social Services will go after the dad like a hawk. Once they get him, they establish paternity, mandate child support (even if the mother didn't want him in the life of the child and never wanted him to know). Once child support is mandated, the dad faces losing his driver's license, going to jail and constant court fees and monitoring-control by the State. At 26, it is possible the check will be going to the "child" and paid into arrears to the State (50% is interest on missed payments while he wasn't aware he had a child) after past child support is paid. That way, no one ever gets out of the control of the State or is relieved of an obligation imposed on them which they had no idea of to keep paying the State interest and penalties. if the kids living home - prolly not. could be deemed that moms "still supporting" political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gentlemen who pay CS - bitches piss the money away that youre (court) ordered to pay. 95% of the children do not see a dime. Quoting: Phennommennonn as much as we all abhor govt involved in our lives - heres the payback - you could request that the CS monies go to a representative payee - theres volunteer (free) agencies in every city that do this.....THEY disburse the money to the mother - how? by paying bills direct. rent/shelter for kid? paid to landlord utilities for kid? paid directly to utils food? - shopping mart giftcard and mother must provide receipt to agency cloths? - giftcards - mother must provide receipt to agency transportation? bus passes issued your car/transportation - gas card issued - must provide receipt **no cash given** bitches wont see a dime bc the CS is under monthly audit. fathersrights orgs started this 10 yrs ago and slowly went national in every city - Excellent program. Wish it had been around when i was making my payments to the bitch. And you are correct... my daughters never got the benefit of those payments. But the ex wore Victoria secret, drove BMW, had cosmetic surgery of disgusting face, tit job, belly tuck, vacations...etc. My daughters only got nice things when I gave them. its been around since early 2000 that im aware. check your local city for a fathersrights org.....for help. or an atty. My children are in their mid twenties; adults... to late |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS THREAD SHOULD BE UN-PINNED. It's premise is completely false and only encourages fear for the divorced men with child support responsibilities. They suffer enough without having to be subjected to this BULL SHIT Quoting: Frankenstein your angers displaced - this fuckin LAW is enacted regardless of your liking. out of sight out of mind wont work here I'm not arguing that... it's the law of the land and everybody will better off understanding it to their advantage instead of bitching about it. I am saying this thread's premise that the the ACA has passed a law which extends the child support to age 26. its already in the HC bill - insurance is mandated to age 26. defacto. and its considered "support" now if youre good at math.....a+b=? (what) if HC is mandated for kids til age 26 - actual monetary support will follow. you heard it here. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Frankenstein User ID: 15055540 United States 09/23/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS THREAD SHOULD BE UN-PINNED. It's premise is completely false and only encourages fear for the divorced men with child support responsibilities. They suffer enough without having to be subjected to this BULL SHIT Quoting: Frankenstein your angers displaced - this fuckin LAW is enacted regardless of your liking. out of sight out of mind wont work here I'm not arguing that... it's the law of the land and everybody will better off understanding it to their advantage instead of bitching about it. I am saying this thread's premise that the the ACA has passed a law which extends the child support to age 26. its already in the HC bill - insurance is mandated to age 26. defacto. and its considered "support" now if youre good at math.....a+b=? (what) if HC is mandated for kids til age 26 - actual monetary support will follow. you heard it here. Holy fucking shit!! You have no idea what i'm saying do you? Whatever. I know the fucking HC law Phenn.... benefits attorney |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 09/23/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Phennommennonn your angers displaced - this fuckin LAW is enacted regardless of your liking. out of sight out of mind wont work here I'm not arguing that... it's the law of the land and everybody will better off understanding it to their advantage instead of bitching about it. I am saying this thread's premise that the the ACA has passed a law which extends the child support to age 26. its already in the HC bill - insurance is mandated to age 26. defacto. and its considered "support" now if youre good at math.....a+b=? (what) if HC is mandated for kids til age 26 - actual monetary support will follow. you heard it here. Holy fucking shit!! You have no idea what i'm saying do you? Whatever. I know the fucking HC law Phenn.... benefits attorney then youre missing important plot points dude. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17798626 United States 09/23/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has gone insane.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Child support even as it stands now is some serious bullshit.. A woman can divorce the man for no damn reason at all, steal his children from him, then get a paycheck for the next 18 years for it... It's really unbelievable... Yeap...I married a whore and had that life of paying child support for 14 years. Needless to say I got custody of 3 of them. She ran off lives to Florida and has contracted Aids. God is just and fair! |