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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST They are really preparing the people for violence as well. They have said this in an "illegal protest". That any acts of violence carry jail sentences. That the entire march is an "act of civil disobedience", that protesters should be carrying their ID on them in case they have problems, and one politician has even declared this as an attempted "coup d´tat". Yes, my friends, there will be problems in Spain today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24162583 I'm jealous. I can't even get my wife and her pea-brained brother to store up a month's worth of necessities, LET ALONE START A DAMN PEACEFUL SEMI-REVOLUTION in her thinking....which she can't be arrested for. Yet. God we American's suck at this stuff. We should hire some French Revolution/Demonstration Consultants. During and after the '68 student revolts in Paris, the SDS and others did exactly that: they invited them over to the States to teach street tactics.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24236111 United Kingdom 09/25/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST ^^^^^if you really think all the people taunting are provacateurs then you are sadly mistaken my british brother.....people are getting heated and are realizing that peaceful sit there do nothing protests are not working. as for beatinging the protesters with batons whenever they move forward, that is tyranical and disgusting. if what the policeman are doing is right in terms of defending public property then why did nothing get smashed or broken. Because the protesters were not there to riot, they were there to toss these criminals out of office. And if they were there to 'protect the public', it sure seemed like they were there to protect the interests of the kahbul considering the entire public was in the streets Quoting: truthpatriot 23964325 Yes all true, i was pointing out how easy these things get out of hand. Most of the time from what ive seen the police panick. One starts hitting then it all goes down hill from there. trust me its a good tactic by a few protesters early on to wind the police up (for whatever reason, either plants or just wanker trouble makers) to the extent that the police beat them, then the police stay in that mood all kight. They then just cant help themselves from beating anyone. In reality if the public wanted blodd tonight the police wouldnt have been able to stop that many peole if they all kicked of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24236111 United Kingdom 09/25/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24236111 Did you even watch the live feeds all night ?, probs not you wanker. As always there was either plants or real people who just go to these events to cause trouble. That then just spirals the whole thing out of control, because the real protesters then think that the police are beating up inocent protesters. They then start to to get angry with the police and before you know it boom it all kicks off. Simple basic protest tactics, throw into that typical fiery spanish attitudes and its like flicking petrol at match. And I can tell by your schollboy answer of "The only thing the Spaniards did wrong tonight was not showing up prepared to execute some bastards right there on the streets and then mail their parts to their families.". You fucking armchair warrior, LOL GLP knight. You think youve got the stones to cut someones head of eh ?, like fuck. Go back to bed midle class boy and hope it doesnt come to a town near you. You really are confused, aint ya? Not as much as you lot by the look of things. At least i have a grasp of how these things go down. got arrested for kicking of at the poll tax riots, so first hand experience on how to get the police to start beating inocents so it goes in your favour in the press. And you ?, oh thats right youve got chat room experience and spoon fed news. Can i change your nappy for you ?. You really don't have any grasp at the nature of anger and the resentment being engenderered, do you? Its objective nature and the fact that these sentiments wont go away, especially now that wealth is blatently being consolidated in the hands of the unscrupulous. Name calling this or that individual on the net wont alter this drift. Im afraid its you that has little grasp on whats happend here. Ive just given a simple example of how things work, yet you still sit there with some utopian fantasy about how it should be. |
Marxist User ID: 16202739 New Zealand 09/25/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us The muslims are in an even more dire predicament being chained to a deeply ingrained cult and with no recourse to reasoned debate. Agitating is not enough. One must also know, rationally, why one is dissatisfied. Or change never comes...just cosmetic tinkering. Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST So sad... just saw live images at SIC tv (portugal) and people are really getting beaten like dogs... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24278651 Government now says this "was a coup d'etate attempt and the detained will be go to court as criminals"... What THE FUCK??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? is there a link to this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us The muslims are in an even more dire predicament being chained to a deeply ingrained cult and with no recourse to reasoned debate. Agitating is not enough. One must also know, rationally, why one is dissatisfied. Or change never comes...just cosmetic tinkering. So you figure the workers in Egypt who joined the revolution didnt rationally know their grievances? Or are you saying the Spanish do? You make little sense... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24296546 United States 09/25/2012 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST |
Marxist User ID: 16202739 New Zealand 09/25/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us The muslims are in an even more dire predicament being chained to a deeply ingrained cult and with no recourse to reasoned debate. Agitating is not enough. One must also know, rationally, why one is dissatisfied. Or change never comes...just cosmetic tinkering. So you figure the workers in Egypt who joined the revolution didnt rationally know their grievances? Or are you saying the Spanish do? You make little sense... Neither do. Both are still under the sway of manifest falsities that must fall away if they are to meaningfully alter the social economy of their regions. If you read my posts, you would have deduced that which is why I characterised the muslims as being in an even deeper malaise than the Spanish though both are in entrenched political confusion....given their various conditionings as I have also repeatedly pointed out. You cannot help yourself unless you know the true cause of your illness. Conjecture simply prolongs the misery and these things take longer to resolve..which I have also repeatedly pointed out. Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3694399 United States 09/25/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST anyone need more proof peaceful protesting does not work? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24335764 Only when you are willing to die and kill for a cause will you achieve something. Individualism is fie but finding like minded individuals with above mindset seems impossible in this disconnected xbox world. THIS. Waiving a peace sign to a NWO storm trooper only gets you beat down. The reason so many people were able to fight and die for freedom in the past is because they had no media to tell them how to think. They were out in their communities speaking to people every day. They all shared something we do not share today and that is eachother. Braveheart would never had stepped up had he and his community been subjected to English propaganda through BBC or whatever else they manipulate us with. The truth is as long as we all play along we deserve to be victims. The next protest you see will be more violent Im sure. Im also sure there will be people telling the violent freedom fighters who are tired of being slaves that "Violence doesnt work, we must take them over with love" or some other bullshit like that. If TPTB want to play with fire we are in the right to burn them. |
Top Hat Top Hat User ID: 10235814 United States 09/25/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST anyone need more proof peaceful protesting does not work? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24335764 Only when you are willing to die and kill for a cause will you achieve something. Individualism is fie but finding like minded individuals with above mindset seems impossible in this disconnected xbox world. THIS. Waiving a peace sign to a NWO storm trooper only gets you beat down. The reason so many people were able to fight and die for freedom in the past is because they had no media to tell them how to think. They were out in their communities speaking to people every day. They all shared something we do not share today and that is eachother. Braveheart would never had stepped up had he and his community been subjected to English propaganda through BBC or whatever else they manipulate us with. The truth is as long as we all play along we deserve to be victims. The next protest you see will be more violent Im sure. Im also sure there will be people telling the violent freedom fighters who are tired of being slaves that "Violence doesnt work, we must take them over with love" or some other bullshit like that. If TPTB want to play with fire we are in the right to burn them. God you people are so full of shit! It's a FUCKING BAIT THREAD dumb asses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3694399 Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us The muslims are in an even more dire predicament being chained to a deeply ingrained cult and with no recourse to reasoned debate. Agitating is not enough. One must also know, rationally, why one is dissatisfied. Or change never comes...just cosmetic tinkering. So you figure the workers in Egypt who joined the revolution didnt rationally know their grievances? Or are you saying the Spanish do? You make little sense... Neither do. Both are still under the sway of manifest falsities that must fall away if they are to meaningfully alter the social economy of their regions. If you read my posts, you would have deduced that which is why I characterised the muslims as being in an even deeper malaise than the Spanish though both are in entrenched political confusion....given their various conditionings as I have also repeatedly pointed out. You cannot help yourself unless you know the true cause of your illness. Conjecture simply prolongs the misery and these things take longer to resolve..which I have also repeatedly pointed out. Did you follow the worker strikes in Egypt and what they wee striking about? Are you following the austerity policies and massive unemployment in Spain? You'd figure that people who have the gumption and or courage to jeopardize their livlihood, or their freedoms, would have an idea why they would take such a risk. You speak cryptically and dont explicitly explain what you mean. |
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truthpatriot User ID: 23964325 United States 09/25/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us The muslims are in an even more dire predicament being chained to a deeply ingrained cult and with no recourse to reasoned debate. Agitating is not enough. One must also know, rationally, why one is dissatisfied. Or change never comes...just cosmetic tinkering. Spain also doesnt have western countries help them overthrow their leaders....so keep that in mind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8036987 United States 09/25/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST They are really preparing the people for violence as well. They have said this in an "illegal protest". That any acts of violence carry jail sentences. That the entire march is an "act of civil disobedience", that protesters should be carrying their ID on them in case they have problems, and one politician has even declared this as an attempted "coup d´tat". Yes, my friends, there will be problems in Spain today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24162583 I'm jealous. I can't even get my wife and her pea-brained brother to store up a month's worth of necessities, LET ALONE START A DAMN PEACEFUL SEMI-REVOLUTION in her thinking....which she can't be arrested for. Yet. God we American's suck at this stuff. We should hire some French Revolution/Demonstration Consultants. Hey YOU FROGS.....put out some HOW TO, SELF HELP, REVOLUTION FOR DUMMIES, VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE, would ya? We're the Hanging Chad Nation, apparently. Is there a Republican Manifesto we can refer to? No. The Founders didn't leave an instruction manual for this contingency, did they? So we're like revolutionary virgins playing hard to get. I mean what's the first step? Do you form a committee? Elect a chairman and officers? Do you use Roberts Rules or just allow emotion to rule the revolutionary committee. Would it qualify as a charity? Should we start with a news letter? How about Revolutionary junk mail? I wonder if one can apply modern thinking to a revolution at all? It would seem that if the government is wanting to declare Martial Law, as suggested on this forum, so badly, THEY WOULD AT LEAST help us out with what to do next.... as I am completely stumped here. But I swear, when I look out my windows or go to a mall, everything seems pretty normal to me. What part of the world collapsing are we missing? Are we just that stupid or what? It would seem to me that Americans are still living in the Nixon era in their thinking; therefore, how are we going to get caught up over 40 years when this so-called Shit Hit The Fan scenario actually HITS THE FAN? Or am I over thinking it? Maybe it will be like riding a bike, you never really forget. Just turn on your lizard brain and go crazy or something. God it sucks to be a Caucasian sometimes. Hahah! Well said, my friend. |
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stars User ID: 17867407 United States 09/25/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST There will be 3 simultaneous marches starting at 5 30 Madrid time. They will converge and surround the National Congress. Quoting: standup 24162583 Barcelona is planning a similar action and the Catalans will surround it's parliament which is in session today with important meetings. This is a live link to the University Students Federation camera and march. [link to www.ustream.tv] as of now it is the only feed up on u-stream and will begin broadcasting at 5 pm /11 est please post more links if you find them. God took one look around...........Gave it back to the Indians. Think about it///////////there was life!!!!!1111111 stars |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3694399 United States 09/25/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST The problem with the majority of Spanish protesters is they think the can achieve a revolution without violence. A Minority however realise that violence is the only way forward for this revolution to actualy get anywhere at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24404890 The minority has proven a very important lesson here to the majority today, so hopefully these fucking hippies will be more supportive when the big guns come out. The public tonight could have over run the police easily and beaten the crap out of them by snatch squads which is the same way they work there was atleast 20 ppl per pig tonight, what did we do? They ran like complete tossers. I am disgusted with my fellow countymen, we asked them to support us in the frontlines and they ran leaving us open to snatch squads. If they want our support in the furture they better start getting serious this is not a fucking sunday picnic. we went there for a reason, to take congress. all these fuckers wanted to do was sing and get a kicking from the coppers. We need some hardcore American patriots here because half these idiots do not have a fucking clue. I am livid, comming here to night was as usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike. four frinds arrested for what? so the fucking crowd could run off with it's tail between it's legs. All mouth and no action you wankers. You even had support offered by army vets and turned it down ffs. oh no we have to be pacifists so fucking sad you idiots don't realise that is what the government wants obedient sheep, just going bah bah bah. We will try again tomorrow with greater force, lets hope we don't get left out inj tyhe cold once again. Much love for you brother and the best of luck in your fight for freedom. I would love to come help your fight but we are knee deep in our own. We cant even get people to get out and sing to get beat by cops. Atleast your people were willing to call off work today and show up together. Americans had to talk about the NFL today at work, no time for disobeying our masters. If Americans showed solidarity like this someone would show up and somehow trick the people into fighting eachother. Some fake hollywood shill would tell the people that "they are the problem, and that someone of some race or religion should be attacked for inticing this "violence" not our dear leaders." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24076983 i fear only god and his denial of my acceptance I dont fear that at all. I'm at peace with myself. However, I am paranoid of my political actions in a police state. Of course if I was part of the State apparatus I would be going to Church everyday... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24425757 United States 09/25/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23964325 United States 09/25/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Quoting: truthpatriot 23964325 I dont fear that at all. I'm at peace with myself. However, I am paranoid of my political actions in a police state. Of course if I was part of the State apparatus I would be going to Church everyday... you are apart of the apparatus. its not the new united states, europe order. its the new world order. If you think for a second that your executive is not apart of this then you are silly. If you are from mexico, that country is apart of the north american union. life is but the flesh, the afterlife is eternal. If your afraid of the evil, you have no faith in the good which is god |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24399072 United Kingdom 09/25/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST I dont fear that at all. I'm at peace with myself. However, I am paranoid of my political actions in a police state. Of course if I was part of the State apparatus I would be going to Church everyday... you are apart of the apparatus. its not the new united states, europe order. its the new world order. If you think for a second that your executive is not apart of this then you are silly. If you are from mexico, that country is apart of the north american union. life is but the flesh, the afterlife is eternal. If your afraid of the evil, you have no faith in the good which is god who would give a fuck about some internet rambling when people are outside throwing stones at parliaments etc... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24076983 Mexico 09/25/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST I dont fear that at all. I'm at peace with myself. However, I am paranoid of my political actions in a police state. Of course if I was part of the State apparatus I would be going to Church everyday... you are apart of the apparatus. its not the new united states, europe order. its the new world order. If you think for a second that your executive is not apart of this then you are silly. If you are from mexico, that country is apart of the north american union. life is but the flesh, the afterlife is eternal. If your afraid of the evil, you have no faith in the good which is god "State apparatus" = a cop or some such... Sorry for the misunderstanding. |
NO SHEEPLES User ID: 15684211 Canada 09/25/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST unbelievable, such loosers, can't pay their bills so they go protesting!! what about working instead!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24408200 You are a fucking shill.....These people have been defrauded by their government and have every right to be pissed.....FUCK YOU just another amerikkkan moaning coutch potatoes shills just dont pay attention to him, it will come to amerikkka soon and this coward troll will shit in his pants NO SHEEPLES |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23964325 United States 09/25/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Quoting: truthpatriot 23964325 relax. you'll get to Hell and find out it's not even there! have a fun life. Thanks anonymous coward, ill trust my insticts though. Good luck to you my friend |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24335764 Spain 09/25/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ****Live Feeds****Riot police prepared as Spain set to surround the National Congress 25 S in Madrid 5:30pm / 11:30am EST Isnt it ironic the muslims are able to overthrow their dictators but we are not? We all laugh and joke about the muslims but right now they should be laughing at us What dictators? O, you think those "revolutions" were not planned by the same cabal? Think again. The only think that was overthrown in the Middle East recently is the last resistance to the central banking cabal. |