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Poster Handle High Plains Jester
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Lol no clue what happened on that last sentence, but yes, chaos doesn't exist
 Quoting: High Plains Jester


What if the choas is real and flase at the sametime. If thoughtforms infected the minds of mass observers causing percieved choatic reality, then couldn't those thoughtforms be working for their boss choas? Where do thought originate, what are they? Could you have reality without them?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The first thing to acknowledge is that there is nothing but Source, the Grand Architect, in who's mind we exist. There is nothing before, and as everything exists in it's mind, then nothing can step outside of what it has imagined. You have to forgive me on a lot of this, as language is a very large barrier to convey this information through. I feel you have an understanding of this, but felt the need to iterate it.
Now, this leaves the only option being that everything is conscioussness. Everything. For without there being conscioussness, it couldn't exist. "chaos" "Satan" whatever you wish to call it, is simply a tool used by Source. Without this, nothing could stay outside of the singularity from which everything came from. It gives us a distraction. It allows us to move within ourself, and process the information we find. We are a direct response to the first question. "What am I?" look at it this way. If you had none of your five senses, and only had thought, how would you figure out what you are? You would have to explore yourself from the inside out. You could construct imagined entities to explore you inner self, and since they are a part of you, the information they learn would be translated back to you. As the information increases, so could the world that you are building for them. More worlds could be built to run simultaneously. It's like building better and better computers, except this is the most advanced, unparalleled computer that will ever be.

Sorry if I went on a tangent there, I let my mind go where it will in these types of conversations lol.
 Quoting: High Plains Jester

i ask people how they would percieve reality with no senses a lot.

That is a good way to explain things, I think along those lines. The problem is when I throw aliens, spirits, other type entities in the equation. I don't but into the earth learning place idea. I have begin to think they might not exist and its all thoughts, but also if our thoughts create reality, then they are created. I tend to believe that all the bad things in the world are the result of the collective thought.

I understand it is basically how the observer sees/percives the "Chaos" shapes their reality. Its hard for me to believe that the supreme conscienceness set up a system with percieved suffering. I think somewhere something was thought up(not by supreme guy) in creation and it had a tremndous ripple effect. Basically someone made a drastic error in thought and all hell broke loose creating a stream of new thoughts and those new thoughts manifesting into the observers realities.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


I like you. You think.

I believe other entities do exist, but not in malicious ways we perceive them to be at times. Like I said previously, other worlds have been built to increase input. You represent your own unique universe, just as I do. But even we are only the thought forms of the earth. Which is a thought form of our galaxy and so on and so forth. So I think it would be ignorant to not believe they are there. But, any entity or race that has the ability to travel the stars would have to understand the greater mechanics of unity. And once these mechanics are understood, then going against the higher laws is down right idiotic. Karma is real. If your ignorant of the laws, then it may take lifetimes for your misdeeds to catch up with you, but once you understand the laws, acting against them, well, karma hits you almost immediately. Hurting someone would be just like hurting yourself, which most sane beings don't do.
As for a system of perceived suffering, I don't think it's designed that way. We're simply children. Learning the ins and outs of the system as we go along. Working from the bottom to the top. Suffering may simply be a part of the system. I mean, if your trying to learn everything, you might as wel learn EVERYTHING. But even suffering is a learning experience. Just because the material vessel doesn't understand why something is happening, doesnt mean the soul doesn't. I believe that we choose our lives and experiences before we materialize here. However, the flesh can go against the soul protocols. Hense free will. That is why things seem outta whack here. Not too many people hear what the soul has to say. They are more worried about fleshly desires and temporary thrills. Hense reincarnation. Experience is accumulative and cannot be taken away from, so next life, you'll be a little more in tune. And so on and so forth, until you're ready for the next step in the transcendental evolutionary process.
 
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