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13 Mayan Crystal Skulls Ceremony & Pilgrimage 10/27 - 11/13 One Year Later: From Hurricane Sandy to WW3 Pre-Cursor?!

 
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Well that's what you get when you don't bow down to Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost. You get alot of shit.
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Yep.
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What will they do with them?

They want to save the world, but obviously they do not know how.
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Well that's what you get when you don't bow down to Our Lady,Christ and the Holy Ghost. You get alot of shit.
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Yep.
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What will they do with them?

They want to save the world, but obviously they do not know how.
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I wonder about this myself...what was the point?

Just like the mystery 12/21 date...we won't know anything until that day passes blink
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What will they do with them?

They want to save the world, but obviously they do not know how.
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I wonder about this myself...what was the point?

Just like the mystery 12/21 date...we won't know anything until that day passes blink
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They have something planned already for this date:

2012 Pilgrimage to the Yucatan - December 21 - 29 ~2012

Reawakening the Divine Feminine


[link to www.oneheartproductions.net]
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A clarification made about the skulls...hmm

Drunvalo Melchizedek: An Update on Crystal Skull Journey | The [Occupy] 2012 Scenario

If it was our understanding the Thirteen Original Crystal Skulls would be hand-carried across the U.S., we were mistaken. Out of the thirteen skulls that are part of this trip, we have been told that three of them are ancient — Hunbatz Men will carry the Tibetan, Nagaku; Nagaku’s brother, Kin Batz, also from Tibet, will be there too, along with an ancient Peruvian Skull. The rest of the skulls are ‘personal skulls’ belonging to the selected individuals who have been chosen to travel with Hunbatz and hold space for the work at hand, at each ceremony. Lion Fire will also be present with two authenticated ancient skulls from Mongolia.

We hope that our effort to clarify things will help you decide whether or not you wish to participate. In the end, we would like to remind everyone that it is the purpose of this journey that matters — and while many adjustments have had to be made, we trust that the Elders, and the Spirits that are watching over this historic and unprecedented event, know exactly what they’re doing.


[link to 2012indyinfo.com]
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What will they do with them?

They want to save the world, but obviously they do not know how.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526079


I wonder about this myself...what was the point?

Just like the mystery 12/21 date...we won't know anything until that day passes blink
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes


They have something planned already for this date:

2012 Pilgrimage to the Yucatan - December 21 - 29 ~2012

Reawakening the Divine Feminine


[link to www.oneheartproductions.net]
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes



It is not there are GATE, can not remember the name, but also associated with the skulls Toltec.
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the mayan calendar is a fractal, with cycles in cycles.

the tzolkin refers to the 20 day count, with each day representing a different quality or energy.

the 19th day/energy/quality (and dont limit it to just days, think of it as the second to last phase) is cauac or storm.

from wiki:

Cauac : 'Rain' or 'Storm' - the celestial dragon serpents and the chacs, gods of thunder and lightning.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

so put this in context. this may mark the begining of the final stage before the last energy on 12/21/12, ahau.

the rain/storm represents purification and cleansing.

also interesting is how 10/28/11 was teh date carl calleman put as the end of the mayan calendar. his much anticipated unity consciousness did not occur on that day, so most threw out his idea. but maybe 10/28 was significant, just in a way different than what he anticipated.

Carl Johan Calleman, (born May 15, 1950, Stockholm, Sweden), is a toxicologist as well as an author and speaker on the millenarian New Age interpretation of the Mayan calendar known as Mayanism. He differs from professional Mayanists in seeing 28 October 2011 and not 21 December 2012 as a significant date. Calleman does not interpret the date as an apocalypse, Armageddon, or other cataclysmic event but a slow transformation of consciousness in which people experience a higher "unity consciousness."[1][2]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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also interesting is how 10/28/11 was teh date carl calleman put as the end of the mayan calendar. his much anticipated unity consciousness did not occur on that day, so most threw out his idea. but maybe 10/28 was significant, just in a way different than what he anticipated.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Good stuff, I completely forgot about Calleman.
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[link to www.intellicast.com]

Drag the map over mexico and zoom in.
Is that a Fibonacci sequence?
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 Quoting: MudMan


Thread: Spirogaph radar thingamajig over Ciudad de Mexico

Image appears TODAY of all days...oops2
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the mayan calendar is a fractal, with cycles in cycles.

the tzolkin refers to the 20 day count, with each day representing a different quality or energy.

the 19th day/energy/quality (and dont limit it to just days, think of it as the second to last phase) is cauac or storm.

from wiki:

Cauac : 'Rain' or 'Storm' - the celestial dragon serpents and the chacs, gods of thunder and lightning.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

so put this in context. this may mark the begining of the final stage before the last energy on 12/21/12, ahau.

the rain/storm represents purification and cleansing.

also interesting is how 10/28/11 was teh date carl calleman put as the end of the mayan calendar. his much anticipated unity consciousness did not occur on that day, so most threw out his idea. but maybe 10/28 was significant, just in a way different than what he anticipated.

Carl Johan Calleman, (born May 15, 1950, Stockholm, Sweden), is a toxicologist as well as an author and speaker on the millenarian New Age interpretation of the Mayan calendar known as Mayanism. He differs from professional Mayanists in seeing 28 October 2011 and not 21 December 2012 as a significant date. Calleman does not interpret the date as an apocalypse, Armageddon, or other cataclysmic event but a slow transformation of consciousness in which people experience a higher "unity consciousness."[1][2]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Thanks for this...trying to get an understanding here...will read up on the links hf
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

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if you believe all this nonsense you play right into their hands

good luck with all that
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They were told never to let the skulls be together in the same place it signifies the end of days etc.
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The skulls were proven fakes?
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hell all history has been proven fake..there's no general population burial sites for so called a hundred million remains(the least estimate) at or around all the so called ruins..the millions of personal artifacts used on a daily basis just dont disappear too..the lack of enough physical evidence shows the cultures were ruins to start with and human remains that are found are props for the staged setup...where Romes massive general burial sites, wheres south Americas massive burial sites, wheres "ancient" Egypt burial sites for the general population and where the hell is the millions of personal artifacts used by the general population? the Lack of enough physical evidence shows the sites were ruins to start with with the human remains and it all were set up as props to have histories to written about them...the lies are bigger than you think...

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 10/28/2012 04:46 PM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The skulls are fakes and that crew are just a bunch of dugpas.

Drunvalo has solid black eyes . White and allWitnessed by many..
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Drunvalo DOES NOT have soild black eyes! He has Blue-Eyes.
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The skulls were proven fakes?
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hell all history has been proven fake..there's no general population burial sites for so called a hundred million remains(the least estimate) at or around all the so called ruins..the millions of personal artifacts used on a daily basis just dont disappear too..the lack of enough physical evidence shows the cultures were ruins to start with and human remains that are found are props for the staged setup...where Romes massive general burial sites, wheres south Americas massive burial sites, wheres "ancient" Egypt burial sites for the general population and where the hell is the millions of personal artifacts used by the general population? the Lack of enough physical evidence shows the sites were ruins to start with with the human remains and it all were set up as props to have histories to written about them...the lies are bigger than you think...
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Then why can't people see that all this ridiculousness is in place to make people think there is something sinister about... there IS, but it has no power but what people give it.
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oh, when is all the bullshit going to stop hey?
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

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No where in there did it talk about the actual crystal skulls. There are many different types of skulls that have been made over the years. The wiki article seems to cover man made skulls, not the actual crystal skulls that have surfaced. The actual skulls there is no explanation for how they where carved, as something created in that way should not exist or is unknown on the process of how it was created.
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For truth!

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

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No where in there did it talk about the actual crystal skulls. There are many different types of skulls that have been made over the years. The wiki article seems to cover man made skulls, not the actual crystal skulls that have surfaced. The actual skulls there is no explanation for how they where carved, as something created in that way should not exist or is unknown on the process of how it was created.
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Could you link to something that talks of the other skulls? As far as I know they aren't even mentioned in the mythology of any of the mesoamerican cultures.
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I tried to get everyone's attention with my thread about the oh so mysterious 10/28/11 site that no one seems to remember:

Thread: Remember the Oct28/2011 Site? Schrödinger's 'KATE'/Mayan Skulls-Olympics-Climate [UPDATE: Will & Kate Baby One Year Later?]

Then I realized the Mayan pilgrimage across the USA just happened to start at that date!

Here is a refresher of their itinerary last year:

ITINERARY

Oct 26 The Elders arrive in New York

Oct 27 New York Ceremony with the 13 Crystal Skulls

Oct 28 Leave New York to go to the Serpent Mound, OH.

Oct 29 Serpent Mound Ceremony with the 13 Crystal Skulls followed by a day of rest.

Oct 30 Leave the Serpent Mound to go to Cahokia, IL.

Oct 31 Cahokia Ceremony with the 13 Crystal Skulls and a day of rest.

Nov 1 Leave Cahokia to go to Hays, KS

Nov 2 Leave Hays to go to Crestone, CO

Nov 3 Crestone Ceremony with the 13 Crystal Skulls, and day of rest.

Nov 4 Leave Crestone to go to to Kaatsi, AZ.

Nov 5 Private Meeting in Kaatsi with Hopi and Tibetan monks including Rinpoche.

Nov 6 The Elders will spend more time with Hopis and Tibetan Bhakha Tulku Rinpoche after which they will drive to Sedona, AZ.

Nov 7 Sedona Ceremony with the 13 Crystal Skulls plus a public event.

Nov 8 The Elders will leave Sedona and drive to Los Angeles

Nov 9 Los Angeles will be a day of rest for some, and return home for others.

Nov 10 This is the day that another group of 13 elders arrive in Los Angeles from Merida

11:11:11 Gateway Ceremony with 13 Mayan Elders and the 13 Crystal Skulls at Crystal Skull Conference in Los Angeles

Nov 12 Crystal Skull Conference in Los Angeles with 13 Mayan Elders and Pilgrimage Participants present.

Nov 13 Host Gabriel Romero is sponsoring a one day seminar in which Mayan Day Keeper Hunbatz Men will impart his wisdom. The seminar will take place on Sunday, November 13, 2011. Please feel free to distribute this information to anyone who might be interested in this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to hear the real Maya talk about 2012 and the sacred Crystal Skulls.

[link to wakeup-world.com]

*******************

Keeping in mind that they opened up "gateways and portals" with these crystal skulls, there must be some related, unexpected events that coincide with this event...like the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE perhaps?!

Now a year later, this hurricane comes along right on the anniversary date?!

The Mayan elders trecked across the US on a 15 day journey to end up in Los Angeles for the 11/11/11 grand ceremony. We all made a huge deal over this date but nothing came out of it.

So maybe we should keep an eye on the next 14 days...past the ELECTION...up to November 11th...and beyond?

Also noting now the 7.7 Mag quake in Western Canada blink


Let's see how this goes...!


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They were told never to let the skulls be together in the same place it signifies the end of days etc.
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5a Which they did.
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:colorbump:

Internet is slowing down here in NYC...will respond when I get a chance. Take care if you're in the path of this THING too tdown!

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Just because im Bored what does the serpent mount look like? since sally is supposed to hit land around the 30th maybe the slithering path it represent will coincide with sallys course.

Just something to occupy anyone who likes puzzles and linking phenomena.
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Can I be bored with you hf?

I haven't a clue about the specific locations they chose but yeah, Serpent Mound, Ohio doesn't sound too good right? LOL don't get Sandy mad for misspelling her name now!

Then again...SALLY SALLY SALLY...raspberry

I think I'm trippin' for being up late stoned
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Lol Well coincidentally The hurricanes Course Looks exactly like the serpent mound...

Using sacred mounds and Spiritual Devices one can Control weather by making it manipulate the Sacred mounds Shape and indeed Sandy followed the shape of the Serpent mount To a KEY.


[link to greatserpentmound.com]

Compare that picture with ANY Trajectory Picture of Sandy the course is Exactly the Same....
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Just because im Bored what does the serpent mount look like? since sally is supposed to hit land around the 30th maybe the slithering path it represent will coincide with sallys course.

Just something to occupy anyone who likes puzzles and linking phenomena.
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Can I be bored with you hf?

I haven't a clue about the specific locations they chose but yeah, Serpent Mound, Ohio doesn't sound too good right? LOL don't get Sandy mad for misspelling her name now!

Then again...SALLY SALLY SALLY...raspberry

I think I'm trippin' for being up late stoned
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes


Lol Well coincidentally The hurricanes Course Looks exactly like the serpent mound...

Using sacred mounds and Spiritual Devices one can Control weather by making it manipulate the Sacred mounds Shape and indeed Sandy followed the shape of the Serpent mount To a KEY.


[link to greatserpentmound.com]

Compare that picture with ANY Trajectory Picture of Sandy the course is Exactly the Same....
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I have absolutely no doubt the hurricane's path was planned. I can see the snake resemblance...thanks for this thumbs
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Just because im Bored what does the serpent mount look like? since sally is supposed to hit land around the 30th maybe the slithering path it represent will coincide with sallys course.

Just something to occupy anyone who likes puzzles and linking phenomena.
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Can I be bored with you hf?

I haven't a clue about the specific locations they chose but yeah, Serpent Mound, Ohio doesn't sound too good right? LOL don't get Sandy mad for misspelling her name now!

Then again...SALLY SALLY SALLY...raspberry

I think I'm trippin' for being up late stoned
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes


They chose each location for a very specific reason. Monks mound in Cahokia for instance happens to be the largest earth mound "pyramid" in north America. It is also located just across the river from the Gateway Arch which you can clearly see from the top of the mound.

The end of this ritual is supposed to be broadcast live on NBC "peacock network" on the 2012 winter solstice at 11:11pm from the Pincachu pyramid.They expect it to be the largest wold wide tv viewing audience ever. I wouldn't suggest tuning in.
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Just because im Bored what does the serpent mount look like? since sally is supposed to hit land around the 30th maybe the slithering path it represent will coincide with sallys course.

Just something to occupy anyone who likes puzzles and linking phenomena.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551413


Can I be bored with you hf?

I haven't a clue about the specific locations they chose but yeah, Serpent Mound, Ohio doesn't sound too good right? LOL don't get Sandy mad for misspelling her name now!

Then again...SALLY SALLY SALLY...raspberry

I think I'm trippin' for being up late stoned
 Quoting: BetteDavisEyes


They chose each location for a very specific reason. Monks mound in Cahokia for instance happens to be the largest earth mound "pyramid" in north America. It is also located just across the river from the Gateway Arch which you can clearly see from the top of the mound.

The end of this ritual is supposed to be broadcast live on NBC "peacock network" on the 2012 winter solstice at 11:11pm from the Pincachu pyramid.They expect it to be the largest wold wide tv viewing audience ever. I wouldn't suggest tuning in.
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Thanks for the heads up thumbshf!
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A review of the past 12 days so far:

- 2-3 Major earthquakes in Eastern Canada- Vancouver-BC area.

- 7+M earthquake in Guatemala

- Hurricane Sandy aftermath - billions of dollars in damages and over 100+ people killed throughout the Eastern seaboard.

- Obama is re-elected

- First named Winter Storm Athena brings in freezing snow and winds to a ravaged New York City and the rest of the Northeast.


Please post more links here...I'm sure there's MORE!





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