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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27613031 United States 11/16/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't say what triggered the dog to do this, supposedly it was not aggressive and that wasn't the reason the previous owners re-homed it. Quoting: Laura Bow It was this: [link to i.imgur.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't say what triggered the dog to do this, supposedly it was not aggressive and that wasn't the reason the previous owners re-homed it. Quoting: Laura Bow What causes a black man to lose his temper and murder someone? and dogs are no different. they are what they are when they are born, and it takes a human to train them to be what they should be. At least dogs dont have gummint and lawyers telling them they dont have to heel or earn their food and keep |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't say what triggered the dog to do this, supposedly it was not aggressive and that wasn't the reason the previous owners re-homed it. Quoting: Laura Bow It was this: [link to i.imgur.com] the money is on the likelyhood that the dog was either not neutered, or only recently neutered. Big animals fight for the priority to feed and fk first and no human is gonna get in the way of that when the time is right unless the dog fears them |
IndigoSerenity76 User ID: 1679006 United States 11/16/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't say what triggered the dog to do this, supposedly it was not aggressive and that wasn't the reason the previous owners re-homed it. Quoting: Laura Bow It was this: [link to i.imgur.com] the money is on the likelyhood that the dog was either not neutered, or only recently neutered. Big animals fight for the priority to feed and fk first and no human is gonna get in the way of that when the time is right unless the dog fears them Depends on the training. If you get them as puppies, you can stop that from happening. Again, I can take food right out of my dog's mouth (Mastiff/Rottweiler). However, another one that I have that was already territorial when I got her (Great Pyrenee), there is no way you could take food out of her mouth without getting bit. "Imagine no possessions" "As Above, So Below" )O( Rach |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | turkeys are indeed lizard brained, and they are raised to be eaten and have no other real capacity for bonding with humans for anything more than food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Dogs, have a greater emotional makeup. Not gonna let animals decide who's in charge in my pack, I'M IN CHARGE and the doggies know it and do what they are expected to do or they fear my wrath. That keeps everyone happy and safe. Sure but when your doggies are bloodlusted at each other, if you were truly in charge you would not need a carpet? forget the fact that it also obscures them from knowing it is you entering the fray. Bahh, what do I know. I can't afford to have a dog right now. maybe later I can be educated enough to offer advice. peace brother. and peace to all gods creatures. may the good lord take this woman up. BTDT, the problem stemmed from someone introducing a recently neutered male with a super dominant predisposition to another passive but large male and the subsequent response was very poor and essentially fixed permanently only to that pair. That lack of foresight on someones part scotched the possibilities of a proper result for those two. Some things cant be fixed, and the only real potential for a good outcome was not to let a bad response be learned in the first place. I had to jump on them more than once when someone would break the two closed doors separation rule. IT did improve to the point that I could keep them apart without the blankey but not with any confidence of being safe and unhurt myself. That never got resolved until one was removed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't say what triggered the dog to do this, supposedly it was not aggressive and that wasn't the reason the previous owners re-homed it. Quoting: Laura Bow It was this: [link to i.imgur.com] the money is on the likelyhood that the dog was either not neutered, or only recently neutered. Big animals fight for the priority to feed and fk first and no human is gonna get in the way of that when the time is right unless the dog fears them Depends on the training. If you get them as puppies, you can stop that from happening. Again, I can take food right out of my dog's mouth (Mastiff/Rottweiler). However, another one that I have that was already territorial when I got her (Great Pyrenee), there is no way you could take food out of her mouth without getting bit. no offense but the topic is big adult dogs being rehomed, I believe. With puppies, they can be trained right, I deal with severely abused and neglected large dogs |
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Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 11/16/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | turkeys are indeed lizard brained, and they are raised to be eaten and have no other real capacity for bonding with humans for anything more than food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Dogs, have a greater emotional makeup. Not gonna let animals decide who's in charge in my pack, I'M IN CHARGE and the doggies know it and do what they are expected to do or they fear my wrath. That keeps everyone happy and safe. Sure but when your doggies are bloodlusted at each other, if you were truly in charge you would not need a carpet? forget the fact that it also obscures them from knowing it is you entering the fray. Bahh, what do I know. I can't afford to have a dog right now. maybe later I can be educated enough to offer advice. peace brother. and peace to all gods creatures. may the good lord take this woman up. BTDT, the problem stemmed from someone introducing a recently neutered male with a super dominant predisposition to another passive but large male and the subsequent response was very poor and essentially fixed permanently only to that pair. That lack of foresight on someones part scotched the possibilities of a proper result for those two. Some things cant be fixed, and the only real potential for a good outcome was not to let a bad response be learned in the first place. I had to jump on them more than once when someone would break the two closed doors separation rule. IT did improve to the point that I could keep them apart without the blankey but not with any confidence of being safe and unhurt myself. That never got resolved until one was removed. They didn't say if all of the dogs were together at the time, have to wonder if this was the case or if there was something else that happened? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27711841 United States 11/16/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | turkeys are indeed lizard brained, and they are raised to be eaten and have no other real capacity for bonding with humans for anything more than food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Dogs, have a greater emotional makeup. Not gonna let animals decide who's in charge in my pack, I'M IN CHARGE and the doggies know it and do what they are expected to do or they fear my wrath. That keeps everyone happy and safe. Sure but when your doggies are bloodlusted at each other, if you were truly in charge you would not need a carpet? forget the fact that it also obscures them from knowing it is you entering the fray. Bahh, what do I know. I can't afford to have a dog right now. maybe later I can be educated enough to offer advice. peace brother. and peace to all gods creatures. may the good lord take this woman up. BTDT, the problem stemmed from someone introducing a recently neutered male with a super dominant predisposition to another passive but large male and the subsequent response was very poor and essentially fixed permanently only to that pair. That lack of foresight on someones part scotched the possibilities of a proper result for those two. Some things cant be fixed, and the only real potential for a good outcome was not to let a bad response be learned in the first place. I had to jump on them more than once when someone would break the two closed doors separation rule. IT did improve to the point that I could keep them apart without the blankey but not with any confidence of being safe and unhurt myself. That never got resolved until one was removed. I dont know what BTDT means. but I was able to process the rest. seems you have a method to keeping dogs safe, happy and well raised. part of the reason I can't afford a dog (trust me, the companionship would greatly benefit GLP) is because I can't afford to pay to have it spayed/neutered. sometimes it is financial, somtimes it is lazyness of not wanting to nurse it during the recovery, sometimes I don't have the intellectual capitol to make such a decision. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | turkeys are indeed lizard brained, and they are raised to be eaten and have no other real capacity for bonding with humans for anything more than food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 Dogs, have a greater emotional makeup. Not gonna let animals decide who's in charge in my pack, I'M IN CHARGE and the doggies know it and do what they are expected to do or they fear my wrath. That keeps everyone happy and safe. Sure but when your doggies are bloodlusted at each other, if you were truly in charge you would not need a carpet? forget the fact that it also obscures them from knowing it is you entering the fray. Bahh, what do I know. I can't afford to have a dog right now. maybe later I can be educated enough to offer advice. peace brother. and peace to all gods creatures. may the good lord take this woman up. BTDT, the problem stemmed from someone introducing a recently neutered male with a super dominant predisposition to another passive but large male and the subsequent response was very poor and essentially fixed permanently only to that pair. That lack of foresight on someones part scotched the possibilities of a proper result for those two. Some things cant be fixed, and the only real potential for a good outcome was not to let a bad response be learned in the first place. I had to jump on them more than once when someone would break the two closed doors separation rule. IT did improve to the point that I could keep them apart without the blankey but not with any confidence of being safe and unhurt myself. That never got resolved until one was removed. I dont know what BTDT means. but I was able to process the rest. seems you have a method to keeping dogs safe, happy and well raised. part of the reason I can't afford a dog (trust me, the companionship would greatly benefit GLP) is because I can't afford to pay to have it spayed/neutered. sometimes it is financial, somtimes it is lazyness of not wanting to nurse it during the recovery, sometimes I don't have the intellectual capitol to make such a decision. firstly, you can find a dog which has been neutered already. secondly you can feed a dog well and properly with minimal money. There is a cute little book called raw dog food, that can teach you how, not that I got even a penny from it, (thought I should have) |
IndigoSerenity76 User ID: 1679006 United States 11/16/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the money is on the likelyhood that the dog was either not neutered, or only recently neutered. Big animals fight for the priority to feed and fk first and no human is gonna get in the way of that when the time is right unless the dog fears them Depends on the training. If you get them as puppies, you can stop that from happening. Again, I can take food right out of my dog's mouth (Mastiff/Rottweiler). However, another one that I have that was already territorial when I got her (Great Pyrenee), there is no way you could take food out of her mouth without getting bit. no offense but the topic is big adult dogs being rehomed, I believe. With puppies, they can be trained right, I deal with severely abused and neglected large dogs No offense taken...I was just trying to explain that it isn't the the breed or size of the dog, it is the training, or lack of. "Imagine no possessions" "As Above, So Below" )O( Rach |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26275626 United States 11/16/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We adopted a mastiff a year ago and it is one of the kindest,gentlest dogs I've ever had. Everyone who has been around him has said the same. I know dogs are all different but I'd love to get more mastiffs, he is great with kids, other dogs, and our 5 cats love to cuddle up and sleep with him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 the money is on the likelyhood that the dog was either not neutered, or only recently neutered. Big animals fight for the priority to feed and fk first and no human is gonna get in the way of that when the time is right unless the dog fears them Depends on the training. If you get them as puppies, you can stop that from happening. Again, I can take food right out of my dog's mouth (Mastiff/Rottweiler). However, another one that I have that was already territorial when I got her (Great Pyrenee), there is no way you could take food out of her mouth without getting bit. no offense but the topic is big adult dogs being rehomed, I believe. With puppies, they can be trained right, I deal with severely abused and neglected large dogs No offense taken...I was just trying to explain that it isn't the the breed or size of the dog, it is the training, or lack of. the only difference is in the size and capacity of the animal to do damage. Small dogs are just as vicious, they just dont much inflict damage on adults, though even a pomeranian has killed an infant. Dogs are dogs, breeds are another thing altogether. Dogs are predators, and you can only control them by access and prevention and socialization. They will all revert to predators under the proper circumstances. The owners duty is to prevent the circumstances from presenting themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 United States 11/16/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We adopted a mastiff a year ago and it is one of the kindest,gentlest dogs I've ever had. Everyone who has been around him has said the same. I know dogs are all different but I'd love to get more mastiffs, he is great with kids, other dogs, and our 5 cats love to cuddle up and sleep with him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26275626 the breed standard for most large dogs is a comfortable aloofness and confidence to others not presenting as a threat, and a comfortable familiarity and protectiveness with family/pack. Dogs, like humans can have mental illnesses and obsessions which prevent them being presentable to normal social conditions and being a threat |
IndigoSerenity76 User ID: 1679006 United States 11/16/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: IndigoSerenity76 Depends on the training. If you get them as puppies, you can stop that from happening. Again, I can take food right out of my dog's mouth (Mastiff/Rottweiler). However, another one that I have that was already territorial when I got her (Great Pyrenee), there is no way you could take food out of her mouth without getting bit. no offense but the topic is big adult dogs being rehomed, I believe. With puppies, they can be trained right, I deal with severely abused and neglected large dogs No offense taken...I was just trying to explain that it isn't the the breed or size of the dog, it is the training, or lack of. the only difference is in the size and capacity of the animal to do damage. Small dogs are just as vicious, they just dont much inflict damage on adults, though even a pomeranian has killed an infant. Dogs are dogs, breeds are another thing altogether. Dogs are predators, and you can only control them by access and prevention and socialization. They will all revert to predators under the proper circumstances. The owners duty is to prevent the circumstances from presenting themselves. Yep, exactly. "Imagine no possessions" "As Above, So Below" )O( Rach |
Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 United States 11/16/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We adopted a mastiff a year ago and it is one of the kindest,gentlest dogs I've ever had. Everyone who has been around him has said the same. I know dogs are all different but I'd love to get more mastiffs, he is great with kids, other dogs, and our 5 cats love to cuddle up and sleep with him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26275626 the breed standard for most large dogs is a comfortable aloofness and confidence to others not presenting as a threat, and a comfortable familiarity and protectiveness with family/pack. Dogs, like humans can have mental illnesses and obsessions which prevent them being presentable to normal social conditions and being a threat I wonder if that's what happened in this case... |