Governments Considering Two-Child Policy For The West

Its so simple. Children have a cost associated with them . Get rid of the tax write off for over two children and get rid of earned income tax credit. No additional welfare for over two children and I guarantee you wont have to worry about people having more than two children.

If you can afford more children then have em just dont make me pay for them

Your example is fucked.

First, Jacksonville is the largest city in the U.S. by area at 885 square miles, and occupies nearly all of Duval County, Florida. That's around 24.7e9 (billion) square feet, or roughly 3.5 square feet/person on earth.

Second, consider Tokyo--among the most insanely densely populated metropolises on earth. Population density is around 6800 per square mile, i.e. 4100 square feet per person.

That density isn't remotely achievable without large swaths of land that are much lower density, nor is it desirable.

Apparently your point is that there's plenty of room, because we could jam all current humans, elbow-to-elbow in Duval County Florida, standing upright, at a density 1200 times that of metropolitan Tokyo.

Epic fail.

Morans? explain? Population reduction bug you? Why?

ITT: Sheep accusing others of being sheep

Two can play at that game. Our religion says to be fruitful and multiply. If a rule is implemented and doesn't apply to Muslims as well as the rest of the population, we can always claim discrimination.

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The point is that the world isn't over populated.

could we make that retroactive? there's some dumb bitches i know that could provide a service to mankind by bein wrapped in a burlap bag and tossed into the river.

How can you tell when it is over populated?

If we are here after 2013.. talk about it.

Some of us don't eat Mcdonalds at all. Beware of the reduction you yourself are asking for!!! You say it is intentional...you could be an intentional reduction just by agreeing to it

I hold to the world-view that the Earth was made to be inhabited. We cannot know what the pre-Deluge world looked like, but judging by the trillions upon trillions of barrels of oil that exist (which was formed during the flood, from organic matter such as plants, people, animals, ) and the fossil record which shows trillions and trillions of dead things that weren't squished into oil, I would surmise that we are nowhere near the capacity, and I doubt we could ever reach it. Before the flood, man lived to be much older (the Bible records Methuselah as being well over 900), and evidence suggests that so did the animals. Reptiles never stop growing until death, so it is likely that many of the large dinosaur bones that have been found were very old creatures. That being said, imagine how many children a 900 year old man and woman could have, not to mention how many eggs a several hundred-year old reptile could lay. Like I said I just don't think it would be possible for us to even come close to over-populating...but I doubt you hold to the same world-view as I do, considering you can't wait to jump on the opportunity to start slaying the elderly, handicapped and "less desirable" members of society. Overpopulation is a myth created by the NWO, with global warming being the junk-science-propaganda-catalyst to push the agenda of reducing the worlds population to less than 500 million. Stop drinking the Al Gore kool aid man, it's gonna kill us all...

First of all, I don't believe we should start slaying the elderly, handicapped or the less desirables as you suggest. I find it odd that the Religious types (such as yourself)immediately jump to the extreme end of the scale in an attempt to promote your point. Overpopulation a myth? There are plenty of localized examples of overpopulation, India and Africa to name two. Are you telling me that overpopulation isn't possible worldwide and that we should procreate as much as possible?

Hmmm a 2 child idea as oppose to 1.... if those are our choices i'd go with 2.

Lets face it, we are on the verge of over population, 7 billion people in the world, in the US a birth every 8 seconds, a death every 13...oooo just 3 seconds shy of doubling the death ratio.

US population - [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]

World Population - [link to DON'T_USE_THIS.com]

We do need restrictions, or we'll run out of resources, food, and shear space in no time, and whats worse, putting in place a plan to regulate births and population growth or wait until we're on the verge of collapse because there are so many people that need food, water, medicine, vacancies, and jobs???

I'm all for it for the simple fact that it gets religitards to SHUT THE FUCK UP about contraceptives! if you can only have 2 children then they must be made mandatory, or even provided by your health insurance.

And this is not a question of pro life or abortion, simply sterilize the parents after the second child. Thats far better than a family with 7 kids they can't take care of. If contraceptives are provided then really abortion would only be a result from rape, mothers health, infants health.

And for those of us that believe in Doom, Didn't someone (forgot his name) theorized that once the human population reaches 8 billion we'll experience global problems? even if this is remotely true, doesn't that mean we should do something.

How about widespread access to reliable birth control methods to begin with?

And how about free sterilizations for anyone who wants one? That would eliminate most abortions.

World Population As Per Census.gov

U.S. - 314,797,783
one Birth Every - 8 seconds
one Death Every - 13 seconds
One international migrant every - 44 seconds
net gain of one person every - 15 seconds

World Population - 7,053,347,123

Oh, Furthermore, FUCK AL GORE! Can't stand that son-of-a-bitch.

As long as we can't feed everyone, stop producing more kids! Have a heart!

The upper class often seems to have 3 or 4 kids. Mitt Romney had 5. This isn't mentioned very much, but it's true.

They'll want a loophole so there is some way they can have more than 2.

were you a middle child, by any chance?

Very true

When I lived in Westport, all around that area...from Greenwich to Fairfield CT, you'd see big BMW or Lexus SUVs filled with kids...moms with 3-4 towheads

I finally asked a woman about it, she said it was 3rd wife protection against divorce: have a bunch of kids real fast, and that way the mofo will think twice before dumping them for yet a 4th wife. Child support payments are a bitch

someone else said it was because they were doing their part to repopulate the white race, but I think they were joking

lol...true this

and here is the problem

you in Sweden, Norway, Netherlands...you feel this way, and you act on it

I read that in several European countries like Italy and Spain, the government was going to start offering financial incentives for young women to have chilcren

the Europeans are dying out and refusing to breed

However, your noble message isn't getting through to the other countries , dude

All that you're ensuring is that the intelligent people who have a conscience and some restraint are not going to pass on their intelligence

meanwhile, in much of the world, making babies is the only fun the poor have, and in some circles, they even see outpopulating you all as a noble goal of it's own

I'm sure you've seen this, but here you go again.

Very sobering, esp for Europeans

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Not to mention about half of all of the food that is put in supermarkets in America is thrown out. There is more than enough food, unfortunately people are too stupid to take it.

i know big food shops like dunkin donuts throw out there food at the end of the day

most of the food in America is poisoned.

Ayup. I'm still in that area. You nailed it.

Maybe the upper class elsewhere, say in Silicon Valley has fewer kids and more granola. But around here, it's 3-4 kids normally. I just think it's the normal result of above-average food and a certain number of years of bedtime recreational activity, unhindered by worries about having enough money to pay to raise them.

And concern about the planet? Please! These are investment bankers. They're used to having more than others.

then get rid of all the foreigners tht don't belong here or should i say get rid of all the illegal aliens

How many people does it take to sustain a civilization that wants to moves forward? When does that number becomes so heavy that we need to slow down so everyone can keep up, and eventually shut down and die? Unfortunately, with the way things work, financially that is, those are question many are pondering, questions that humanity should be ashamed of even formulating.

It would be an entire different situation if we all worked for our betterment and not money, hell, no money at all. You do whatever you want, study in any field(s) you want. If you want to spend your life studying, researching, painting, sing or being a clown, there you go, free of charge. Robots making everything, cultivating, fabricating, distributing with humans only supervising. You need something, living space, food, clothes, electronics, just order the stuff and voila live the greatest life imaginable. You dont have to have more than your neighbor. It wouldn't be about whats in your wallet anymore. Consumerism would slowly disappear. The sick could be treated with respect for as long as it takes without going bankrupt for wanting to stay alive. Dont tell me it cant be done cause thats a bankster lie. A fucking lie.

Right now, if you pull together all the money in circulation, you can house everyone, clothe and feed every human, and free education for all. Put those robots to work and let us grow up and live the easy life at last. I didn't say lazy, i said easy. Some say life would be boring... buying useless shit, Hollywood and prescription drugs are so much better. Pfff!

Well I have 5 kids myself. We do just fine. We have goats, chickens, raise our own vegetables and fruits and don't rely on the free handouts the government gives. We certainly aren't rich, but we have enough. I am done with this thread though, you people need to wake up...you think it ends with a two-child policy? Do you think you will be one of the 500 million they let survive? Hah! The goal of the NWO is to kill as many as "us" as they possibly can. Chem-trails, fluoride, abortions, STD's, viruses, vaccines, preservatives, fast-food, pharmaceuticals,etc. THEY WANT US ALL DEAD! Stop drinking the fluoride-water, and turn off the TV! These people aren't joking around and it is sickening to see how many of you fools have fallen for it (minus the shills of course)!!