Black Friday broke previous records? WTF planet is this on?!?!?!?

Obama stats....

funny, i heard it was down a few percent from last year, and being perceived as an indicator of a weak holiday season

It seriously makes you wonder...

Not according to Fox and other media outlets...

If I read the figures right it beat the store visits record, and actual sales fell 1.8%. This is still a bad sign hough they will flaunt the record instead.

More visits but lower sales means either people are buying smaller items, they've reached saturation on the "bigs" (TV's, Computers, so on), or they have trimmed their lists of gift giving down to the extreme bare minimum. I think its a bit of all three myself. The prices for Televisions this year were absurdly low. My neighbors both said they are only buying presents for the kids, and that even then it would be small, durable items.

We'll shall have to wait until another week has passed and see if sales return to near non-holiday season levels. If that is the case, then we'll have a real indicator of problems.

100% Total BULLSHIT!

Haters gotta hate!!

NO DOOM NO CRASH

If I took all the money and I didn't pay any bills, I could also afford going shopping like those fools did.

But since I pay my bills...i got to stay home.

Such BS

who said anything about money? people charge there lives away.

The population is larger every year.

Around my urban area the crowds were ENORMOUS.

The key is to see how sales volume holds up over the remaining days until Christmas. The early sales could well have stolen later sales ... so overall it may be down.

As for the economy, the recovery is spotty, but overall the employment and income numbers are better this year than they were last year, 2010(for October), and in 2010 they were better than they were in 2009 (for October).

Locally our major urban area (SMSA) had unemployment drop back under 6% for October, which is the lowest it has been since 2007.

Where I work, people came in and left without buying. The problem: prices were much higher than they'd hoped.

Hopefully it teaches the big-wigs at corporate a lesson. You can't tease people with "amazing deals" and then not deliver.

You mad doomtard? Faux news forgot to tell you suckers to ALWAYS BET ON BLACK!

The reason this was is because most people as interviewed on the news DIDN'T spend on luxury items or electronics all year long, saved up and UNLOADED on Black Friday

I know a lot of people who did the same

down 1.8%,

[link to www.rttnews.com]

foot traffic up, actual buying down

Last Edited by IssueX on 11/25/2012 11:19 PM

The economy is so bad that everybody needs to shop for the HUGE bargains. That's all they can afford.

If the stores are making such wonderful profits I guess they don't need any of my money!

Black Friday 2012 Retail Sales Fall 1.8%: ShopperTrak

The bad news was that Black Friday retail sales fell 1.8 percent, to about $11.2 billion, from last year to this year. (The comparable figure in 2011 was an increase of 6.6 percent.)

[link to www.ibtimes.com]

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Myself and my dad both have done this the last few years. For him its TV's, but for me I go a bit further and that's when I stock up on DVD box sets. Didn't go this year but last year I got entire seasons of Stargate for maybe $10. Movies I'm a little more picky on, but I remember getting a couple (Sherlock Holmes and Inception) for about $5 apiece.

We were at Wal-Mart this weekend for regular groceries and I saw a large case of $5 movies. Nothing over maybe 3-4 years old and generally good movies. Definitely cheaper than their normal placement of most likely the $13 rack.

At some point in the last few months I remember hearing a conversation on that subject on CNBC I think. People are becoming trained to hold their money for the sales, which is hurting brick and mortar places because it makes for a much larger dependence on the holiday season for their existence. Another argument was that they'd wait for the After-holiday sales in January. Overall if the next two months of retail data is sour we're in for deep (er...er...er...er...you get the idea) doodoo

Then you will be wrong exactly 50% of the time.

I work in retail and our store was up a few grand over last year.

It is Obama money......He sent me a debit card....


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I do not play that Black Friday game. Neither do I exchange 'gifts' on Dec 25. Quit that decades ago. I give them on Jan 1 after the sales.. or just when I want to.

Why does someone say you have to run out like a pack of lunatic lemmings and and fight like mindless chimps to buy a rag they upped the price on to lower it for a sale, and you do it?

It would be nicer to make cookies, or do a chore for someone than spend, spend, spend like a drunken sailor.. only to be depressed when the bills come due for presents probably no one really wanted.

Do you think Jesus would ask this of you? NO. His birth date was never told to us. He was probably born in May.

But since the pagans had a Holiday around that time, the Catholics decided to Make Christmas near it to covert the pagans. Voila.. Christmas with pagan trees and mistletoe and everything else a Mid winter druid would wish. Did the mass part give it away?

Aided and abetted by the clergy saying if you love Jesus , you will do this.. and the merchants whose coffer you fill.

I get as much fun out of Christmas as anyone I guess. But it is not a religious holiday. It is a marketing ploy.

The part that cannot be bought is .... family, friends, and getting together with them. Love them. Help them.And make sure they have what they need year round.