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To stand on the South Rim and gaze into the Grand Canyon is to behold an awesome immensity of time. The serpentine Colorado River has relentlessly incised a 280-mile-long chasm that in some places stretches 18 miles wide and more than a mile deep. Visitors to Grand Canyon National Park will encounter an exhibit titled the Trail of Time, and learn that scientists believe the canyon is about 6 million years old — relatively young by geological standards.

Now a few contrarian scientists want to call time out. The canyon isn’t 6 million years old, they say, but more like 70 million years old. If this order-of-magnitude challenge to the orthodoxy holds up, it would mean the Grand Canyon has been around since the days of T. rex.

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To stand on the South Rim and gaze into the Grand Canyon is to behold an awesome immensity of time. The serpentine Colorado River has relentlessly incised a 280-mile-long chasm that in some places stretches 18 miles wide and more than a mile deep. Visitors to Grand Canyon National Park will encounter an exhibit titled the Trail of Time, and learn that scientists believe the canyon is about 6 million years old — relatively young by geological standards.

Now a few contrarian scientists want to call time out. The canyon isn’t 6 million years old, they say, but more like 70 million years old. If this order-of-magnitude challenge to the orthodoxy holds up, it would mean the Grand Canyon has been around since the days of T. rex.

read more: [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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In other words, they have absolutely no idea.

God forbid they consider a massive flood. It would amount to scientific heresy!
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To stand on the South Rim and gaze into the Grand Canyon is to behold an awesome immensity of time. The serpentine Colorado River has relentlessly incised a 280-mile-long chasm that in some places stretches 18 miles wide and more than a mile deep. Visitors to Grand Canyon National Park will encounter an exhibit titled the Trail of Time, and learn that scientists believe the canyon is about 6 million years old — relatively young by geological standards.

Now a few contrarian scientists want to call time out. The canyon isn’t 6 million years old, they say, but more like 70 million years old. If this order-of-magnitude challenge to the orthodoxy holds up, it would mean the Grand Canyon has been around since the days of T. rex.

read more: [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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In other words, they have absolutely no idea.

God forbid they consider a massive flood. It would amount to scientific heresy!
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just another theory
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I bet dinosaurs ate it. Nom nom nom nom.

They have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. Science has become really embarrassing. It isn't so much science anymore as its become a religion. There are true scientists out there who are objective and open minded but most are just as dumb sounding as hardcore religious people...
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I conceived my daughter in the rim of that wonder!
So cool~
Circa 2005
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Other scientists disagree.

There are polystrate fossils found proving the entire geocolumn was placed during one catastrophic event, or flood.

Also the given erosion rates are such the entire continent along with the fossil record would have eroded away, again at given erosion rates.

Sofy skin and blood of dinosaur has been found frozen. Is it millions of years or just a few thousand?
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can you imagine how beautiful this country and world was just a few million years ago...before we fucked it up!
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well thats it then

proof that the dinosaurs were more intellegent and bigger then man and they built like the great western levy or somethng

and then angles foghht and the ones that like primates won and all the dinosaurds got blown up

and they were like wearing dinosaur suits, with like baby strollers and the like

and thats why they find them all over the west, cause of the malls that were there

now just mall shopping dinsoaur bones in lines waiting to get to the ferry to go throug hthe levy

appreciate the post
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To those that believe every word of the King James version...

Take a trip to somewhere like the Grand Canyon, where you can clearly see, with your own eyes, millions of years of sediment layers in the rock walls.
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Hydrological sorting...from the Flood "look it up"
While you are at it, look up "poly strata fossils"
Your religion is based upon fraud, the geologic column only exists in textbooks, not in real life.
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Flume tank research with sediment of different particle sizes show that layered rock strata that were thought to have formed over huge periods of time in lake beds actually formed very quickly. Even the precise layer thicknesses of rocks were duplicated after they were ground into their sedimentary particles and run through the flume. See Experiments in stratification of heterogeneous sand mixtures, Sedimentation Experiments: Nature finally catches up! and Sandy Stripes Do many layers mean many years?
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can you imagine how beautiful this country and world was just a few million years ago...before we fucked it up!
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so true friend
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The width of the canyon would imply much more water flowed through it than can be accounted for by a large river and there are no meanders as would be expected in a river carved valley.
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The width of the canyon would imply much more water flowed through it than can be accounted for by a large river and there are no meanders as would be expected in a river carved valley.
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Canyon formation has even been repeated in the lab. It's done under flood conditions not slow and gradual erosion from a tiny river.

The Bible is completely true. The skoffers have to invent this wild tale about the tiny river who could.
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OP epitomizes the term "counterfeit Christian"
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OP epitomizes the term "counterfeit Christian"
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Please explain? I am sure you're gonna say that all christians believe the earth is 6000 years old. But I still wanna see your own explanation.

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I conceived my daughter in the rim of that wonder!
So cool~
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I have to ask, if you're still here. Were you in a hotel/lodge room, tent? lol
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The width of the canyon would imply much more water flowed through it than can be accounted for by a large river and there are no meanders as would be expected in a river carved valley.
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Too bad we can't travel back into time to see what it looked like before the end of last ice age.
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Please explain? I am sure you're gonna say that all christians believe the earth is 6000 years old. But I still wanna see your own explanation.
 Quoting: _KiLLuMiNaTi_


just another theory
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That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about
with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph. 4:14)

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out
of my mouth. (Rev. 3:16)

God says the earth is 6000 years old.

He has spoken.

The End.
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Please explain? I am sure you're gonna say that all christians believe the earth is 6000 years old. But I still wanna see your own explanation.
 Quoting: _KiLLuMiNaTi_


just another theory
 Quoting: _KiLLuMiNaTi_


That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about
with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph. 4:14)

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out
of my mouth. (Rev. 3:16)

God says the earth is 6000 years old.

He has spoken.

The End.
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You take the whole bible literally and I dont
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Re: Grand Canyon 70 million years old, formed during era of dinosaurs, new study claims
Other scientists disagree.

There are polystrate fossils found proving the entire geocolumn was placed during one catastrophic event, or flood.

Also the given erosion rates are such the entire continent along with the fossil record would have eroded away, again at given erosion rates.

Sofy skin and blood of dinosaur has been found frozen. Is it millions of years or just a few thousand?
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You really need help if you believe something that was explained over 100 years ago, get out of the dark ages and get yourself a proper education.
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The width of the canyon would imply much more water flowed through it than can be accounted for by a large river and there are no meanders as would be expected in a river carved valley.
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Too bad we can't travel back into time to see what it looked like before the end of last ice age.
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The so-called ice age is just what happened when the waters fell on the poles freezing those woolly mammoths instantly! It also froze entire forests of trees that have been unearthed UNPETRIFIED still WOOD.

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• Entire bone field found in Alaska!

In 1987, while working with scientists from Memorial University (Newfoundland, Canada) on Bylot Island, just east of the northern tip of Baffin Island, a young Inuit (Canadian Eskimo) picked up a bone fragment. It was identified within days as part of the lower jaw of a duckbill dinosaur and proclaimed to the world as such.1

The story was different however in north-western Alaska. In 1961 a petroleum geologist discovered a large, half-metre-thick bone bed. As the bones were fresh, not permineralized, he assumed that these were recent bison bones. It took 20 years for scientists to recognize duckbill dinosaur bones in this deposit as well as the bones of horned dinosaurs, and large and small carnivorous dinosaurs. Presently William A. Clemens and other scientists from the University of California at Berkeley and the University of Alaska are quarrying the bone bed.2

How these bones could have remained in fresh condition for 70 million years is a perplexing question. One thing is certain: they were not preserved by cold. Everyone recognizes that the climate in these regions was much warmer during the time when the dinosaurs lived. In central Alberta abundant plant remains indicate that the climate here was semi-tropical. It is standard geological interpretation that even after the dinosaurs died out, the entire planet was much warmer, perhaps as the result of high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Why then did these bones not decay long ago?

Similar perplexing questions can be asked about the ‘frozen forest’ found even further north on Axel Heiberg Island in the Canadian Arctic, less than 1,200 kilometres from the North Pole.

Geologists claim that these forest remains are about 45 million years old. Nevertheless, the wood and leaf debris are astonishingly well preserved. The plant material is not petrified. The logs are still wood which can be sawn and burnt. The leaf debris and cones include some specimens recognizable as dawn redwood.3 This tree does not presently grow even as far south as Alberta, except in conservatories like the Muttart Conservatory in Edmonton and the Palaeoconservatory at the Royal Tyrrell Museum in Druinheller.

The temperate forest, preserved in the Arctic, seems to have been particularly lush, with 50-metre trees with trunk diameters of two metres, crowded only about six metres apart.

These recent developments are certainly food for thought. It is undeniable that fresh dinosaur bones have been found. Items have appeared in the secular literature saying exactly that. It is also evident that preservation in the fresh state for even one million years is highly unlikely.

The obvious conclusion is that these bones were deposited in relatively recent times. This bone bed is stunning evidence that the time of the dinosaurs was not millions of years ago, but perhaps only thousands. It is time geologists recognized the implications of their own data.

References:

Edmonton Journal, October 26, 1987, and in Saturday Night, August 1989, Vol.104 No.8, pp.16-19.

Geological Society of America, 1985, abstract programs, Vol.17, p.548. Journal of Paleontology, Vol.61 No.1, pp.198-200.

Time, September 22, 1986, p.64; J.F. Bazinger, ‘Our “tropical” Arctic’, Canadian Geographic, Vol.106, No.6, pp.2837 (1986/7).
[link to www.time.com]
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You take the whole bible literally and I dont
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Christians believe the whole Bible, literally. You dont.
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NUTTY & WACKY = CONSPIRACY

Somebody is wrong. Either the atheist claims about the river forming the Grand Canyon is a conspiracy or Christianity is a conspiracy. They both cannot be right.

Just 100 to 200 years ago most everyone knew the Grand Canyon was formed by the flood. Atheism is NEW with claims that no it was no flood it was a little river and bazzillions of years. The view spread by national parks and textbooks.

The origins of the conspiracy is easily traceable.
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You take the whole bible literally and I dont
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Christians believe the whole Bible, literally. You dont.
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the bible is literally true where it is intended to be literally true and figurative where it is intended to be figurative thats why we must examine biblical writing using logic
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Other scientists disagree.

There are polystrate fossils found proving the entire geocolumn was placed during one catastrophic event, or flood.

Also the given erosion rates are such the entire continent along with the fossil record would have eroded away, again at given erosion rates.

Soft skin and blood of dinosaur has been found frozen. Is it millions of years or just a few thousand?
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You really need help if you believe something that was explained over 100 years ago, get out of the dark ages and get yourself a proper education.
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Consider this - the DARK AGES was anti Bible. Christians were burned at the stake for possessing the Bible. Print presses were smashed. The evotard theories is your new anti Bible dark age. The same people are responsible, the Jesuits. Jesuits are the main proponents of evolution theories; father of the 'big bang'; pilt down hoax.

Pagan Evolution Theory is a new dark age!
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The width of the canyon would imply much more water flowed through it than can be accounted for by a large river and there are no meanders as would be expected in a river carved valley.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343301


Too bad we can't travel back into time to see what it looked like before the end of last ice age.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner



The so-called ice age is just what happened when the waters fell on the poles freezing those woolly mammoths instantly! It also froze entire forests of trees that have been unearthed UNPETRIFIED still WOOD.

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• Entire bone field found in Alaska!

In 1987, while working with scientists from Memorial University (Newfoundland, Canada) on Bylot Island, just east of the northern tip of Baffin Island, a young Inuit (Canadian Eskimo) picked up a bone fragment. It was identified within days as part of the lower jaw of a duckbill dinosaur and proclaimed to the world as such.1

The story was different however in north-western Alaska. In 1961 a petroleum geologist discovered a large, half-metre-thick bone bed. As the bones were fresh, not permineralized, he assumed that these were recent bison bones. It took 20 years for scientists to recognize duckbill dinosaur bones in this deposit as well as the bones of horned dinosaurs, and large and small carnivorous dinosaurs. Presently William A. Clemens and other scientists from the University of California at Berkeley and the University of Alaska are quarrying the bone bed.2

How these bones could have remained in fresh condition for 70 million years is a perplexing question. One thing is certain: they were not preserved by cold. Everyone recognizes that the climate in these regions was much warmer during the time when the dinosaurs lived. In central Alberta abundant plant remains indicate that the climate here was semi-tropical. It is standard geological interpretation that even after the dinosaurs died out, the entire planet was much warmer, perhaps as the result of high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Why then did these bones not decay long ago?

Similar perplexing questions can be asked about the ‘frozen forest’ found even further north on Axel Heiberg Island in the Canadian Arctic, less than 1,200 kilometres from the North Pole.

Geologists claim that these forest remains are about 45 million years old. Nevertheless, the wood and leaf debris are astonishingly well preserved. The plant material is not petrified. The logs are still wood which can be sawn and burnt. The leaf debris and cones include some specimens recognizable as dawn redwood.3 This tree does not presently grow even as far south as Alberta, except in conservatories like the Muttart Conservatory in Edmonton and the Palaeoconservatory at the Royal Tyrrell Museum in Druinheller.

The temperate forest, preserved in the Arctic, seems to have been particularly lush, with 50-metre trees with trunk diameters of two metres, crowded only about six metres apart.

These recent developments are certainly food for thought. It is undeniable that fresh dinosaur bones have been found. Items have appeared in the secular literature saying exactly that. It is also evident that preservation in the fresh state for even one million years is highly unlikely.

The obvious conclusion is that these bones were deposited in relatively recent times. This bone bed is stunning evidence that the time of the dinosaurs was not millions of years ago, but perhaps only thousands. It is time geologists recognized the implications of their own data.

References:

Edmonton Journal, October 26, 1987, and in Saturday Night, August 1989, Vol.104 No.8, pp.16-19.

Geological Society of America, 1985, abstract programs, Vol.17, p.548. Journal of Paleontology, Vol.61 No.1, pp.198-200.

Time, September 22, 1986, p.64; J.F. Bazinger, ‘Our “tropical” Arctic’, Canadian Geographic, Vol.106, No.6, pp.2837 (1986/7).
[link to www.time.com]
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Very old BS hoax.

"The magnetostratigraphy, fission-track dating, and stratigraphic evolution of the Peshawar intermontane basin, northern Pakistan".
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Other scientists disagree.

There are polystrate fossils found proving the entire geocolumn was placed during one catastrophic event, or flood.

Also the given erosion rates are such the entire continent along with the fossil record would have eroded away, again at given erosion rates.

Soft skin and blood of dinosaur has been found frozen. Is it millions of years or just a few thousand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28711488


You really need help if you believe something that was explained over 100 years ago, get out of the dark ages and get yourself a proper education.
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Consider this - the DARK AGES was anti Bible. Christians were burned at the stake for possessing the Bible. Print presses were smashed. The evotard theories is your new anti Bible dark age. The same people are responsible, the Jesuits. Jesuits are the main proponents of evolution theories; father of the 'big bang'; pilt down hoax.

Pagan Evolution Theory is a new dark age!
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Who burned the 'christians', who smashed the presses? Other christians.
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You take the whole bible literally and I dont
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Christians believe the whole Bible, literally. You dont.
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the bible is literally true where it is intended to be literally true and figurative where it is intended to be figurative thats why we must examine biblical writing using logic
 Quoting: _KiLLuMiNaTi_

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Prov. 30:6)

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