I am sad all the time - Can someone help me?

yup 100% legit, as long as you can get a hold of some. start with really really low doses and raise it a bit at a time.

[link to www.phoenixtears.ca]
should have some info..probably some youtube vids and stuff for pets. it works for melanoma and diabetes :)

all the well wishes to you are great but it's kind of sad and pathetic that this isn't common knowledge still..sigh. chin up, I'm here to guide you to truth.

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Good post. Short and to the point!




So true!

I agree lol.

OMG! What is this world coming to?

Yes, it's sad when your pet dies, but if you need grief counseling to get over it, it means your priorities are, shall we say, warped.

Let me give it to you straight. Your pet did not come out of your womb.

Yes, I have a pet. I love him dearly. I will be sad when he dies. I even felt sad with an unlovable neighborhood cat with fur missing and deformed hips died in my yard. So I'm not some cold hearted beast talking to you.

But this grief counseling is utter nonsense. Let me guess, the grief counselor is going to support your behavior like a crutch, and will commiserate with you when you tell him or her your pets are like family.

Here is a newsflash: pets are not part of your family. Your family is your husband, your parents, your children, and your grandchildren. No one else is your family.

Yes, you love your pets dearly. Yes, you don't want to see them suffer. Yes, they have big eyes that look so soulful. Yes, they give back to you by letting you pet them and so on.

But get your head and heart straight. Stop lying to yourself.

When we lie to ourselves, we always end up getting screwed up in the end. It is a lie to believe our pets are part of our family.

Once you get that straight, you'll be fine.

Yes, this is true. Unfortunately, it is illegal in most states.

I'd look into ASEA. It's legal, and it apparently helps a lot.

Is your family (human ones) healthy? If so wtf. How the hell can you be sad then? Sad so sad.
EDIT To add. Cry when one of your kids is really sick. wow. Sorry but you have NO idea....

Last Edited by Joker on 12/09/2012 01:21 AM

Wouldn't it be hell to be here forever slowly falling apart?

The soul needs a break now and then.

Death is nothing more than a cruel word.

Yes I'll definitely check this one out. My daughter's boyfriend has a "medical" card here in CA so maybe he can score me some. :)

Thanks too for your well wishes. I could def use some guidance ...

I agree with you, in the sense that death is harder on those left behind than it is on the person passing. As some others have said, the animals themselves are probably not suffering nearly as much as I am over this.

Still, death to me is more than a cruel word. It's a cruel thing. All social animals are programmed to become attached to others. Losing the attachment is just built-in pain. A little dose of cruelty from the universe. Watch a doe trying to revive a death fawn if you want to see pain.

Your note tells me that you are trying hard to convince YOURSELF of something. Just a few comments:

Erm, adoped children didn't come out of my womb either.
If I'm a guy then my children didn't come out of my womb.
Who gives a flying F if the object of affection came out of my womb?

I definitely agree that human family are more important and I started my note with a disclaimer that I have a wonderful human family.

So where do you get this concept of "lying" to myself?
This is the part that tells me you are really talking about yourself, and projecting it onto me. Maybe I have an over-developed sense of tragedy, but you seem to have an over-developed sense of being lied to. And an over-developed need to lecture others, perhaps.

Life is often difficult but God is GOOD.

Don't keep animals alive when they are suffering. You owe them the gift of freedom from their pain for all that they give you while they were healthy.

It's very hard but it's the right thing to do.

If the pain is too much for you, consider not getting more animals in the future. Again, not easy but less hard for some that are too sensitive to putting their pets down.

BTW, I fall into the "too sensitive" category and I know exactly what you're going through.

Yes and I don't mean to sound insensitive to the bigger tragedies in life.

If my child passed away it would be 1000x worse and I'm pretty sure I'd end my life being unable to go on. So please do not just assume I care for animals more than I care for people.

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Jesus loves the animals too. Follow Him and you will find peace and joy.

Thanks for that and yes I'm thinking I won't get new animals after my current little passes. I cherish every day as "the good old days" because they're all so wonderful together (two cats, two chihuahuas) and I know it can't last forever.

My father lost a beloved dog when he was in his 80s and it was heartbreaking to have him showing me the little fellow's grave every time I came to visit. It def gets harder as we get older, because aging is about loss in so many areas. Losing your independence, losing your health, losing your mental abilities. Losing friends and loved ones.

On another (difficult) note: My sister is 67 years old and now pondering the fact that any new animal she gets could outlive her. Do you put them in your will?

Ha ha. :) Thanks again for your nice note.

"At one point, the Healer came across a fawn that was lost in the woods. The Healer asked him where his mother was? The fawn turned his head and looked down a path. Not far away was the mother, the victim of a huge cat. She had given her life to save her young.

The Healer knelt down beside the dead mother and started stroking the body. As His hand passed over the wounds, they healed up, leaving no marks. The deer then started breathing and rose. The disciples were upset at this and asked Him why he was wasting His energy on the animals. The Pale One said, "There cannot be too many good deeds. Such is the manner of compassion. A lost lamb is my Father's business, as important as saving a nation, if one need not choose between them. More precious in my Father's eyes is a good deed than the most exquisite jewel."

Excerpt from the book "He Walked The Americas". Yes, I believe Jesus did visit the indian tribes and taught them the true religion of peace.

[link to richardboyden.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

I'll try. I'm not the religious type though.

Neither my father, who passed in my arms, nor my uncle who passed two years after my Dad, were religious. Right up to their last (literally dying) breaths, they had no interest in turning to God or Jesus. They were both raised in the southern "Church of Christ" so they had ample opportunity to return to their roots.

That said, their dying moments were very spiritual and I know they were seeing and feeling something special. My dad was looking up and reaching for something, and smiled as he passed. It was very quiet, very peaceful. And I know his soul left his body. I didn't literally see it, but I felt like I was seeing it. When it was gone, I knew his body was empty and I didn't cry for his body at all.

So I'm def inclined to believe we have souls and that they go somewhere when we die. But I don't see historical figures such as Jesus (great man and teacher that he was) as being necessary for connecting us to the universe.

Best wishes and thanks for your note.

That's a beautiful story and I'm tearing up again. Thank you.

Step one, get pissed. Get pissed that those thoughts are interfering with your ability to love, achieve, and to move on!

Step two, MOVE ON! Drop that shit!

If you're see yourself slipping, see step one! Lather, rinse, repeat.

Step three, final phase exercise! Hard, strenuous exercise (after a medical check)!

God bless you OP. Pray for wisdom and guidance in this world. You have a gentle soul, and the Lord Jesus loves you. Ask Him into your life. You don't need church, just a relationship with Him because He created you and He loves you.

Realize that the world is at war and until that changes we will all have trouble leading normal lives. The best you can do is keep your head above water in your local realm of life. Go to thegreatwhitelodge.org for more information.

You feel the sadness more because your family is grown...so these are your babies now. All I can say is....either enjoy the misery or take more B6 and Inositol (it might lessen that way)...plus bananas and normal mushrooms (not illegal ones). The things is....if we love...it hurts to see them in pain or hurt, dying. You'd have to be an absolute cow not to have feelings....but if you want to put it in perspective.....they are animals....like rats....not your husband/daughter. Take the vitamins that help and hopefully GO OUT MORE.

You want to wallow...go right ahead....that is a normal response. If you dont want to...take action as per the above. Btw...if the kitties are in pain....it would be best to take them to a vet and let them sleeeep.

You're right you know. And sometimes I can do exactly what you are saying. But in my head a voice is saying "Don't leave them behind." Moving forward is good for me, but it means forgetting them and moving on. Like they never existed.

I picture a boat floating down a river and we're all on it. When one of them passes away, it's like the boat stopped and put them on the shore. They stand their meowing pitifully on the bank while I accelerate away from them on the boat.

My fond fantasy is that some day I too will get off the boat. And I'll go looking for every one of them, in that land outside of time.

Good advice and you're right about grown children. My daughter is wonderful but she doesn't need me any more.

I'll def try the B6 and inositol. I realize it wouldn't be helping anyone to spend every day in a pool of tears. And I don't, at least not yet. I go out a lot! :)

But when the chihuahua passes it might get bad. As for wallowing, do you think it's a good thing and makes the feelings pass quicker? Or do you think it is an exaggeration that makes them last longer?

Thanks! I will check that out ...

Thank you. You are very kind.

THANKS to everyone who made this a wonderful and helpful thread. I appreciate all the comments, the "tough love" ones as well as the kind & supportive ones.

I'm logging off now, to engage in daily life for a while. :) I'll check out every one of your suggestions so even as the thread slips into obscurity, don't worry you've been a great help to me!

no shit.

If you feel your sister's animal may fall to you after her passing, perhaps advice she get a fish or a budgie.

BTW, We've had a number of budgies over the years and some of them made super pets... I remember a particular one who would follow our youngest daughter around the house whenever she came in. It was weirdly awesome to watch how they had bonded. We had another white budgie that was always trying to land on our heads and was just like a little puppy dog with wings. We only had that one for a little while as he fell into the toilet and drowned when we wern't around.

We miss them all but their passing wasn't as hard to take as that of the dogs we've had.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful for all the animals that came into our lives and have fawn memories of them that I will cherish always.

I guess what I've learned most from owning animals is: Love costs. If it doesn't, it's not love.

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