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The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...

 
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The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
Who is watching over this kid, who clearly had mental issue's, and how does he get his hands on 4 guns? The only way to stop this insanity, is for parents to take ownership of their kids, and realize when they have a problem, do whatever it takes to get these kids help, and make damn sure they do not get anywhere near deadly weapons.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
Remember when we used to put mental people in the mental home?
Now due to the Marxists we let them out and give them the same rights as everyone else.
Heaven forbid this mother would have disciplined her kid more the Communist state would have removed him and had him adopted by homosexuals.
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12/14/2012 08:32 PM
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
In the days past, parents forbid their children to certain portions of their homes. Guns were needed for hunting or for those rare occasions to protect themselves. If the child seemed fit they could go hunting also but only the responsible ones or would learn how to shoot.


This guy who did this, how did he learn how to shoot and when?
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out. It is nearly impossible to force them to get help, even if you try to do it legally. Unless this punk murderer threatened people, or tried to kill himself previously, there are not enough grounds to have him admitted to a facility for treatment.
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
Thread: Uncaring parents drive kids to video games.
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12/14/2012 08:42 PM
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out.
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The damage is done by the age of 7.
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out.
 Quoting: tiger1


The damage is done by the age of 7.
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Yeah true...just look how brief turned out...
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
In the days past, parents forbid their children to certain portions of their homes. Guns were needed for hunting or for those rare occasions to protect themselves. If the child seemed fit they could go hunting also but only the responsible ones or would learn how to shoot.


This guy who did this, how did he learn how to shoot and when?
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How could a parent possibly teach a child that was mentally disturbed, to shoot a gun? What gun shop would sell a kid who had mental issues a gun? These are the people responsible for this tragedy. This kid had four guns, not just one he found hidden in the closet.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
In the days past, parents forbid their children to certain portions of their homes. Guns were needed for hunting or for those rare occasions to protect themselves. If the child seemed fit they could go hunting also but only the responsible ones or would learn how to shoot.


This guy who did this, how did he learn how to shoot and when?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29909999


How could a parent possibly teach a child that was mentally disturbed, to shoot a gun? What gun shop would sell a kid who had mental issues a gun? These are the people responsible for this tragedy. This kid had four guns, not just one he found hidden in the closet.
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The "kid" was 24 fool
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out. It is nearly impossible to force them to get help, even if you try to do it legally. Unless this punk murderer threatened people, or tried to kill himself previously, there are not enough grounds to have him admitted to a facility for treatment.
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^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS.

+ I WILL ADD TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER, YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE KIDS OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NOT OF POSTED THAT GARBAGE, GET IN THE REAL WORLD PLEASE.

TIGER HAD IT RIGHT,
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
Who is watching over this kid, who clearly had mental issue's, and how does he get his hands on 4 guns? The only way to stop this insanity, is for parents to take ownership of their kids, and realize when they have a problem, do whatever it takes to get these kids help, and make damn sure they do not get anywhere near deadly weapons.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


You are completely wrong....this was our evil government phyop....wake up!!!!
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out. It is nearly impossible to force them to get help, even if you try to do it legally. Unless this punk murderer threatened people, or tried to kill himself previously, there are not enough grounds to have him admitted to a facility for treatment.
 Quoting: tiger1


The parent paid with her life. This kind of insanity does not happen overnight. You can tell by the photo just released of this kid when he 13, his eyes were twirling. Granted he was an adult, but it usually takes a very long time to get to this point of desperation. I think any parent who had any sense at all, knowing their kid is not playing with a full deck, would do whatever it took to make sure they were not around weapons, regardless of their age.

It has not been said how he got the guns, but if they trace them back to a gun shop who sold them to this kid, I would throw the fucking book at them.
The only constant is change

The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

"One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it"
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
No the root cause is not the parents! Society has changed. New stupid inane laws everyday, and real criminals, like murderers, told that they are not responsible for whatever they do! It is the parents, the nasty school bully, Tv, Movies, on and on and on!

Until we go back to how is was, when no one accepted that if you did shit it was because you couldn't help it, nothing will change.

It used to be that if a child handed in crap work at school they were told "it is crap do it again". Now it is all good job, good job. Then they go to work and suddenly they are told their work is shit and get fired! Poor little Johnny - he only ever did good until the day he turned 18. Funny how the stroke of midnight changes everything!
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Re: The root cause of this tragedy is the parents...
The parents have limited responsibility, IMO. The shooter was 20, not a minor. Once your child reaches 18, there is not much you can do if they are problematic, except kick them out. It is nearly impossible to force them to get help, even if you try to do it legally. Unless this punk murderer threatened people, or tried to kill himself previously, there are not enough grounds to have him admitted to a facility for treatment.
 Quoting: tiger1


The parent paid with her life. This kind of insanity does not happen overnight. You can tell by the photo just released of this kid when he 13, his eyes were twirling. Granted he was an adult, but it usually takes a very long time to get to this point of desperation. I think any parent who had any sense at all, knowing their kid is not playing with a full deck, would do whatever it took to make sure they were not around weapons, regardless of their age.

It has not been said how he got the guns, but if they trace them back to a gun shop who sold them to this kid, I would throw the fucking book at them.
 Quoting: Fire & Ice


This 20 year old shooter was probably a problem for a long time. But, like I stated before, once they are 18, there is little a parent can do, except boot them out. There is a lot more to this tragedy that is still unfolding. Some news stations have said that this shooters girlfriend and another person are missing.

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