Thanks for the info, OP! Sadly, overheard conversations is the only way we are going to get any news in this country. We can't rely on our media, our elected officials and those in the know to tell us publically. We just have to keep our ears to the ground in coffee shops until it is obvious for us to see with our own eyes...unfortunately for some, that may be too late so give me an overheard conversation ANY DAY!!