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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25254305  United States12/26/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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The Sonic Dreamer  User ID: 19453308 United States12/26/2012 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in the world did so many out of towners recently end up in Sandy Hook? Almost half the victims were Sandy Hook transplants. Is that normal in today's schools? (seriously wondering) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25254305 Emilie Parker: originally from Logan, Utah and last year was in Kindergarten in Rio Rancho, NM. Dylan Hockley: the six-year-old British boy who moved to Connecticut two years ago. Charlotte Bacon: originally from Minnesota. "Her parents, JoAnn and Joel, had lived in Newtown for four or five years, JoAnn's brother John Hagen, of Nisswa, Minn., told Newsday." Josephine Gay: originally from Columbia, Maryland - moved to Sandy Hook area 4 years ago. Ana Marquez-Greene: moved to Sandy Hook in July 2012. Avielle Richman: Her family recently moved to Newtown from San Diego, California. Benjamin Wheeler: from Manhattan, New York - his parents are actors Noah Pozner: from New York Allison Wyatt: parents from Florida? [link to www.floridatoday.com] Her father, Ben Wyatt, graduated from Satellite High School and her mother, Cheyanne Wyatt, is also from the Melbourne area. Her father, Ben Wyatt, graduated from Satellite High School and her mother, Cheyanne Wyatt, is also from the Melbourne area. Those from the area? (nothing I can find otherwise) Daniel Barden Olivia Engel Madeline Hsu Chase Kowalski Grace McDonnell (drew the owl and lived one street over from the Lanza's?) James Mattioli Caroline Previdi Jack Pinto Catherine Hubbard: One of the young victims, Catherine Hubbard, is the niece of an ABC News employee I know it would take a few minutes to do so...But, could you cite your sources? I seem to remember that an inordinate number of the victims in the Aurora event were not local residents of the Aurora, Colorado area; many (even a majority, I seem to recall) were on vacation (?) or had just moved to the area very recently. In this Newtown event, someone moving to Newtown four years ago is not suspicious at all. But, moving to Newtown within the past six months should set off some alarm bells, especially if an unusual number of the victims and/or prominent people involved with the event have done so. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27531391 United States01/14/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know it would take a few minutes to do so...But, could you cite your sources? I seem to remember that an inordinate number of the victims in the Aurora event were not local residents of the Aurora, Colorado area; many (even a majority, I seem to recall) were on vacation (?) or had just moved to the area very recently. In this Newtown event, someone moving to Newtown four years ago is not suspicious at all. But, moving to Newtown within the past six months should set off some alarm bells, especially if an unusual number of the victims and/or prominent people involved with the event have done so. Great post OP, I have been noticing the same thing. Sonic Dreamer, a lot of this info comes from the families' Facebook pages or personal blogs. Even the "Phelps" couple (who are shown to be a different family if you watch the Dallas Goldbug videos) who were interviewed but who didn't have a child involved in the "shooting", had a blog which showed they had moved to the area from California within the past 2 years. |
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| MCB User ID: 26816346 United States01/22/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you think it means something sinister in this case? How often do people normally live somewhere? What's the norm for that town? If you don't actually know those things then you have nothing to compare it to, and no story. How often have you moved? How many times did you move while you were in school? I have friends who moved 3 times in one year, and others that never moved at all. To measure a circle - start anywhere... Charles Fort Total Choas! Belief is the enemy - John Keel Is it a coincidence that right there in the middle of the word "believe" is the word "lie?" When less are born, less will die... Varzan War is the first casualty of Truth. Nemo Me Impune Lacessit - "No one cuts me with impunity..." Invisible College Press www.invispress.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States01/22/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go, OP. Thread: Who Are the Parents of Sandy Hook Victims (Page 2) Here's a bit more to put flesh on the bones of at least some of the people. One I remember off the bat is that the Greene family. Moved from Ottawa. He's a jazz musician. Nelba Marquez Greene is a coordinator with this Klingberg Clinic. She is involved with mental health. But, it raised my awareness how weird it was that all these families felt the need to set up memorial funds. If their daughter had been run over by a freight train, would they still have? I doubt it. [link to www.prnewswire.com] And if it is proven that these kids are just fiction, some or all, what then? |
| Zephyr User ID: 32808438 United States01/22/2013 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But my town is significantly larger than SH. To find seven+ kids in my childrens' (small, like SH) classes who had "just moved to town" would be odd in itself, let alone if, of 20 out of 700 children who happened to die, that number (seven+) just happened to be kids who'd moved from out of town. The "7" (or greater" number becomes extremely significant, out of 700 possibilities, once you narrow it from Sandy Hook students --> Sandy Hook students involved (near shooter but escaped all injury --> Sandy Hook students who *lost their lives.* In other words, the just-moved statistic, when combined with the killed-but-not-injured statistic, is too much to take for granted. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States01/22/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in their obit as to the cemetery. Kowalski ~ Newtown Village Lewis ~ Zoar Cemetery The rest were "private". However, it is probably futile. For one, there will be no headstones. Two, if they are memorial gardens they sod over so no fresh turned earth. And if you are like the weird Pozner lady, she has plans to have Noah dug up and moved to Seattle area. Good luck finding out about him. |
| Zephyr User ID: 32808438 United States01/22/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And - I have to be honest at this point - I don't even know what I believe as far as whether or not children have perished. I just don't know. If Anderson Cooper wants to chastise me for my doubt, I would ask him to explain his network's airing of footage from St. Rose of Lima School, and trying to pass it off as Sandy Hook footage. Re-watching; so far have not seen any actual network footage which labels it Sandy Hook - has anyone else confirmed? Maybe they're being careful not to actually label it SH? |
| Zephyr User ID: 32808438 United States01/22/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess, since we're letting it all hang out here (are we?) I had a thought that Noah is probably in Israel, and she will move there shortly. Usually I don't share completely unfounded private thoughts, but for some reason, here, I'm inspired to. I'm sorry - I know this might be completely offensive to those who believe Noah perished. But somewhere, there has to be free discussion, true investigation, which considers all possibilities as if doing so matters - because it does. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States01/22/2013 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veronique Pozner, (alias Leslie Ellen Bates),is an odd bird in anybody's book. She claims to have converted to Judaism when she married her first husband, Reuban Vabner. If she is married to someone named Eliezer (Leonard Pozner he is remarkable in his absense and when reporters showed up to interview the day after the shooting, they found she and her older daughter had gone for tattoos (strictly against Jewish custom). The day after the funeral when they wanted an interview again they found Mr.Pozner had deserted the family and gone off to Florida by himself. Whatever. She has had some of the wildest tales throughout this and I note I never see her with her alleged husband in any photos. She claims Noah was a twin. Never seen her either. Anyway, I completely gave up on her having any credibility whatsoever when she claims that in a month or so she will dig ole Noah up and ship him far, far away. The only thing in Israel, supposedly is she wanted some trees planted in his honor. No word on how that's going, how many and where. |
| Zephyr User ID: 32808438 United States01/22/2013 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What am I missing here - there's an entire post devoted to Noah that details his excitement over the family Christmas tree: [link to www.farine-mc.com] "My last memory of Noah goes back to the Wednesday before he died. I was at our house near Seattle. He and his sisters were at their dad's house in Connecticut. We were skyping. Noah was very excited, bouncing up and down so energetically right in front of the camera that I felt I was on an ocean liner caught in a major storm....They told me they had just trimmed their Christmas tree, which is probably why Noah was so excited....Sophia was the first to run to the tree, remove an ornament and dangle it in front of the camera. After that, they all took turns doing it." Was it a dual-religion household? This is the first I've heard of it. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States01/22/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What am I missing here - there's an entire post devoted to Noah that details his excitement over the family Christmas tree: Quoting: Zephyr 32808438 [link to www.farine-mc.com] "My last memory of Noah goes back to the Wednesday before he died. I was at our house near Seattle. He and his sisters were at their dad's house in Connecticut. We were skyping. Noah was very excited, bouncing up and down so energetically right in front of the camera that I felt I was on an ocean liner caught in a major storm....They told me they had just trimmed their Christmas tree, which is probably why Noah was so excited....Sophia was the first to run to the tree, remove an ornament and dangle it in front of the camera. After that, they all took turns doing it." Was it a dual-religion household? This is the first I've heard of it. That must be the aunt in the Seattle suburbs who is the lawyer. I saw her early on CNN being interviewed. She was talking about Noah's big blue eyes. All the while on the split screen were showing pics of "Noah" with greenish hazel eyes. She probably wasn't thinking about how they were supposed to be Jewish. |
| Zephyr User ID: 32808438 United States01/23/2013 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the same time, this rings so true to me, as someone who has lost someone dear, that it makes me weep, and it's hard to think of it as ingenuine: "The day I will run out of photos is fast approaching and I dread it: as long as I can look everyday at Noah's little face and recall a different memory, I can believe for a nanosecond that he'll be back. It may sound crazy but it does help." Sigh. Wish I knew what was going on in all this mess. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States01/23/2013 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I'm moving too fast, I guess - it was just mentioned here (news to me) that his mom was a convert to Judaism; now noticing that the Grandma's story refers to kids being at their dad's house (where there must have been a Christmas tree). Makes sense now. Quoting: Zephyr 32808438 You lost me. Dad is Jewish. He wouldn't have a tree, would he? But, then he really isn't in the "pictures". The thing I wrote about the digging up Noah. Of course, I don't think she is really going to do this because I really don't think he is buried. It was just because she got caught out on moving to Seattle 3,000 miles away and "leaving" him behind. Answer to the media. She's gonna dig him up. Just awful. All for the expediency of a story. |
