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A Vision/Dream from an AC 28 years ago about to be fulfilled?

 
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This guy is either genuinely telling the truth, or is one of the most amazingly deceptive writers/thinkers/creative minds I have ever come across! Pin please!
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I found this on another forum.

I thought I would post it here.

I have never seen anyting like it.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was raised an athiest.

Utterly godless.

Not even agnostic.

No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all.

I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it.

I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time.

I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles.

I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches.

I wanted no part in it and still don’t.

But I had a dream /vision when I was 15 that changed my life, but it was not until about a year ago it took effect, and according to the dream it will not be until after tomorrow, when I turn 44, that it finds fulfilment.

I was 15...still a kid..but wondering what it was all about, seeing as everything was so totally pointless and without a reason or a goal.

Being an athiest is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning.

And like all kids I needed purpose and meaning.

So the dream./vision...

It was September the 28th 1984....a day I will never forget, because its the day my life was taken right OUT of my hands, and I realised that none of us really have a choice...only a will directed by the one who makes the choices.

I remember so clearly..sitting on my bed that night...looking out the window at the stars.

Wondering why they were there..what purpose they served..if any at all. I remember asking the same thing of myself..what was my purpose..did I have a purpose...or was it all pointless..an illusion..meaningless and dead?
That night I lay down on my bed..still wondering what it was all about...and I had a dream....or a vision..not sure which but it was incredibly vivid..I was there..could feel..hear..smell....

Where was I?

(Keep in mind up UNTIL that point I had never even looked into a bible or any religious book..so what I saw was not previously planted in there)

One moment I was on my bed..in a half awake half sleep state..a trance you might call it. That zone you are in where you are still aware but also..not aware.

I found myself about 200 meters in the air...an air that was NOT air as we know it.I looked around in shock...I was there..this was no dream..I panicked at first cause I thought I was dead..and for all I know..I was.
After adjusting to this "Shock" I was able to look around me..where I was...and what I saw....Spreading around me in every direction to a horizon that just was not there..was THE most incredible landscape I have ever seen. No majestic scene on earth comes close to this..awesome..the SCOPE of it...endless..and solid and real.

Vast jungles..parks..majestic mighty mountains..oceans the size of earth itself..and lakes as big as oceans.
Waterfalls a hundred kilometers high..mighty rivers packed with life..crystal clear...the trees...small and great..colourful..detailed..each one unique and some full of flowers of colours vivid and bright..some full of fruit of weird shapes and hue.

ALL was alive..in a life that was LIFE..not just living things..but LIVING beings..they were not just alive..they WERE life in its essence...each leaf..blade of grass..creature and fish..bird and reptile..were not JUST alive..its like they WERE EMANATING life...

This mighty and majestic landscape went on and on.
What I thought were small hills in the distance, turned out to be mighty mountain ranges that make the himalayas look like a badly thought up joke in comparison.

The waterfall immediatly to my left upon arrival there...WOW...it was (I later found out) over 300 kilometers form where I floated..and even at that distance it was so utterly magnificent...rising up and up..above eye level..like looking UP at a river..It decended down the side of a "small"(compared to some of the other mountains there) 100 kilometer high cliff face...falling..cascading..majestic..and throwing of rainbows in its mighty mist...

I could go on and on about the details..but I am going to stick with the main part...and that is..WHO was standing "Or floating" there beside me..who until that moment I had not noticed..
I turned to my right...and...wow...there was this bloke...who I Immediatley KNEW was The creator of all I saw.

I didnt know his name..I just KNEW HE was responsible for it all..

He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it.

His hair was white...but not from age..more of a symbol of purity kind of white. Like a judge would wear a white wig as a symbol. But this hair was no wig. It was his own.

He wore a sort of robe..not ancient..yet not modern. Like a royal robe of state.

Across his chest from right shoulder to left hip was a red/purple sash about 6 inches wide, interwoven with gold threads.

The robe went to just above his ankles. He had sandals on. But not ancient looking. More of a modern look. But in looking there..at his feet...I saw holes in them...Then with a shock..I saw his hands..they too had holes in them..just at the ends of his wrists..each hole about half an inch wide. There was no blood and the wounds were not festy or horrible.

They..were worn like a status symbol..a mark..more than an annoying wound.I had the urge to kneel..but realised I didnt have a body to kneel with.

So I just looked at him..KNOWING he could read every thought...and knew my intent was to kneel if only I could have..

He knew.

He just smiled at me..joy glittering in his eyes..eyes..so..blue..gold..green...all colours..fire..eyes of fire..like an opal of magnificent brilliance.
He seemed to radiate a real..freindliness..happiness..total peace..yet utter and mighty authority.
You felt at ease with him..yet so humbled as well.
I finally said to him(Well..I thought it)...."You are God?"

He said simply..."(I AM)"

I thought to myself "This cant be real..there IS no "God"...I am imagining all this..I MUST be...

He smiled even broader..if that were possible..like he was amused at my simple yet certain belief in nothing. It was not a snide enjoyment he was feeling..it was more like you would smile at a toddler who said something cute.

He said, knowing my turmoil and thoughts,

"Come..let me show you your destiny"
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I think i understand your dream. Many religions try to give "god" a definite explanation but the real truth about"god" is that god is an idea. An idea we created. Love is the root of all ideas, therfor a more simply explanation of god is that GOD IS LOVE. or rather the idea of love. God is whatever you perceive god to be. God is not some heavenly entity judging the living and the dead, thats what we've come to think of god as. The universe is made of ideas, ideas are real things. Just how real your dreamed seemed even though it wasnt PHYSICAL REALITY, it is still VERY REAL
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As much as I believe in God and Jesus, these retarded dream posts should be permanently BANED

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where is the rest of the story? Link or was it re-posted?
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where is the rest of the story? Link or was it re-posted?
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Yes, it was reposted here: Thread: Trippy vision of heaven REPOST...broken into three parts.
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Read the whole thing last night and twice today.
Am still amazed by this as it is definitely his truth.
How this is meant to save people /... I don't know.
What is the purpose of it other than to say we will be doomed on an ordinary day.
It sounds to me if your going to be smited then you go to this great place.
If not you get to stay here and start the next age.
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I found this on another forum.

I thought I would post it here.

I have never seen anyting like it.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I was raised an athiest.

Utterly godless.

Not even agnostic.

No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all.

I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it.

I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time.

I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles.

I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches.

I wanted no part in it and still don’t.

But I had a dream /vision when I was 15 that changed my life, but it was not until about a year ago it took effect, and according to the dream it will not be until after tomorrow, when I turn 44, that it finds fulfilment.

I was 15...still a kid..but wondering what it was all about, seeing as everything was so totally pointless and without a reason or a goal.

Being an athiest is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning.

And like all kids I needed purpose and meaning.

So the dream./vision...

It was September the 28th 1984....a day I will never forget, because its the day my life was taken right OUT of my hands, and I realised that none of us really have a choice...only a will directed by the one who makes the choices.

I remember so clearly..sitting on my bed that night...looking out the window at the stars.

Wondering why they were there..what purpose they served..if any at all. I remember asking the same thing of myself..what was my purpose..did I have a purpose...or was it all pointless..an illusion..meaningless and dead?
That night I lay down on my bed..still wondering what it was all about...and I had a dream....or a vision..not sure which but it was incredibly vivid..I was there..could feel..hear..smell....

Where was I?

(Keep in mind up UNTIL that point I had never even looked into a bible or any religious book..so what I saw was not previously planted in there)

One moment I was on my bed..in a half awake half sleep state..a trance you might call it. That zone you are in where you are still aware but also..not aware.

I found myself about 200 meters in the air...an air that was NOT air as we know it.I looked around in shock...I was there..this was no dream..I panicked at first cause I thought I was dead..and for all I know..I was.
After adjusting to this "Shock" I was able to look around me..where I was...and what I saw....Spreading around me in every direction to a horizon that just was not there..was THE most incredible landscape I have ever seen. No majestic scene on earth comes close to this..awesome..the SCOPE of it...endless..and solid and real.

Vast jungles..parks..majestic mighty mountains..oceans the size of earth itself..and lakes as big as oceans.
Waterfalls a hundred kilometers high..mighty rivers packed with life..crystal clear...the trees...small and great..colourful..detailed..each one unique and some full of flowers of colours vivid and bright..some full of fruit of weird shapes and hue.

ALL was alive..in a life that was LIFE..not just living things..but LIVING beings..they were not just alive..they WERE life in its essence...each leaf..blade of grass..creature and fish..bird and reptile..were not JUST alive..its like they WERE EMANATING life...

This mighty and majestic landscape went on and on.
What I thought were small hills in the distance, turned out to be mighty mountain ranges that make the himalayas look like a badly thought up joke in comparison.

The waterfall immediatly to my left upon arrival there...WOW...it was (I later found out) over 300 kilometers form where I floated..and even at that distance it was so utterly magnificent...rising up and up..above eye level..like looking UP at a river..It decended down the side of a "small"(compared to some of the other mountains there) 100 kilometer high cliff face...falling..cascading..majestic..and throwing of rainbows in its mighty mist...

I could go on and on about the details..but I am going to stick with the main part...and that is..WHO was standing "Or floating" there beside me..who until that moment I had not noticed..
I turned to my right...and...wow...there was this bloke...who I Immediatley KNEW was The creator of all I saw.

I didnt know his name..I just KNEW HE was responsible for it all..
He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it.

His hair was white...but not from age..more of a symbol of purity kind of white. Like a judge would wear a white wig as a symbol. But this hair was no wig. It was his own.

He wore a sort of robe..not ancient..yet not modern. Like a royal robe of state.

Across his chest from right shoulder to left hip was a red/purple sash about 6 inches wide, interwoven with gold threads.

The robe went to just above his ankles. He had sandals on. But not ancient looking. More of a modern look. But in looking there..at his feet...I saw holes in them...Then with a shock..I saw his hands..they too had holes in them..just at the ends of his wrists..each hole about half an inch wide. There was no blood and the wounds were not festy or horrible.

They..were worn like a status symbol..a mark..more than an annoying wound.I had the urge to kneel..but realised I didnt have a body to kneel with.

So I just looked at him..KNOWING he could read every thought...and knew my intent was to kneel if only I could have..

He knew.

He just smiled at me..joy glittering in his eyes..eyes..so..blue..gold..green...all colours..fire..eyes of fire..like an opal of magnificent brilliance.
He seemed to radiate a real..freindliness..happiness..total peace..yet utter and mighty authority.
You felt at ease with him..yet so humbled as well.

I finally said to him(Well..I thought it)...."You are God?"

He said simply..."(I AM)"

I thought to myself "This cant be real..there IS no "God"...I am imagining all this..I MUST be...

He smiled even broader..if that were possible..like he was amused at my simple yet certain belief in nothing. It was not a snide enjoyment he was feeling..it was more like you would smile at a toddler who said something cute.

He said, knowing my turmoil and thoughts,

"Come..let me show you your destiny"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16256353


Beautiful Pure Love Mercy & Compassion! It is a Growing Your Knowing Experience in a Magnificent Moving to the Core of Your Being Way! The Divine Experience above Resonates with me, as my Knowing is Alive with His Bright White Glowing Smiling Eyes in My Heart and Every Part of My Being...I Just Know~***
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This is awesome stuff!!!!!!
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive<--from that generation...would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
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Why did half the story dissappear?

verysad
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Ditto!
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Why did half the story dissappear?

verysad
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Ditto!
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The original author has a pinned thread here now... Look up top..
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He mentions 35 years from 1984. That is pointing to the year 2019.
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I found that thread from the other forum

the OP went on to write this in answer to a question.

Cant post link to that forum. Its naughty to do so and results in insta ban.

=================================================

Feel free to post that vision if you like.

BTW.

After I wrote it more came back to my memory of the event.

The last year for me has been hard. very very hard. I wont go into details but the events of my life just in the last 12 months leading up to today..the last day of my 43rd year..were the final stage. I am dead to this world now. And going by what I can remember now of that event 28 years ago...I can see why.

There is a vast and terrifying abysss just ahead. Many millions dying..war..death..loss of hope. Our whole way of life..our entire civilization..will soon be in ruin..

That is when lights shine the brightest..when darkness falls.

The darkness falls very soon. Before the middle of next year...I cant see clearly WHAT it is..I only know its devastating..and permanent..as in..it ends western civilization..forever.

One other thing I know about whats coming..

THERE WILL BE NO WARNING...NO one will predict it..NO prophet will warn of it..NO one will KNOW..until the final few seconds.

Its going to be FAST and SUDDEN and WORLD SHAKING..NO warning..not even from the Lord.

The ONLY clue I have been given regarding the beginning of the end is...it will happen on an ordinary day. A day just like any other. No change..no "feeling" of impending doom...just a sudden and shocking CHANGE..and nothing will ever be the same again.

Our epoch ends..just..like..that.(Snap of fingers)

Then following this change..this devatsting world rocking event..comes the harvest.

Then before the year 2020,,,the final end.

I was told I would see it..the return. Its right at the end. I was also told I would not see the age of 50 in my current body.

I am 44 tomorrow. That is the year I was told my destiny and all these years of hardships..stupid mistakes..lessons learnt..and character building would all find the uses.

We have..I feel..but a few weeks of "Normal" left.

When the change comes..it will catch everyone totally off guard.

They are already off gaurd because of the dec 21st campaign..designed BY the media..to achieve just that.

Now they have an entire world population not caring one bit about any predictions or prophecies or forebodings.

Everyone is asleep..as planned.."and the flood came on a day they knew not..and took them all away"...as in the days of Noah..so shall it be again...and so it actually IS...NOW
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21306218


Is anyone else quite skeptical of this story?

The author paints a picture of no one & no prophet knowing the beginning of the end date/time yet proceeds to do nothing but make specific predictions down to the exact year for all of these 'events' to transpire. I find that to be quite contradictory.
The author gives exact years while highlighting that no one will know this information? How do you paint a picture of a mystical and elusive timeline of events while claiming absolute knowledge of the year & time? This reiks of 'false prophet' to me.

Additionally, why does the author reference the bible and the story of Noah? The story of the flood does not coincide with how the author describes the end. If there were a great flood then obviously everyone would be aware of what is going on, a flood will not end the world in the manner that the author of this story describes it will 'suddenly end/change'.

I don't mean to offend anyone who enjoyed this story but I'm highly suspicious and believe it to be a fictitious write-up due to the inconsistencies. It sounds to me like whoever wrote this was someone who wished to produce a creative narrative that falls exactly in line with the '7 Year Tribulation' - I'm not surprised to see the reference to Moses and the flood at the end for this reason, and I'm not surprised to see uses of terms like 'harvest' and 'Lord'. Even the bible says that 'God is light' (which I agree with), yet this author claims that 'God' is a 6 foot tall medium build MALE with white hair??? Doesn't even the bible proclaim that no man shall see the 'face of God'??? (how can 'God' have a face if 'God' is pure LIGHT?)

My personal rule of thumb is never trust anyone who claims to predict the future (specific events) down to a specific year. The 'future' is intentionally vague and foggy for a reason, it is not set in stone and it is not static, rigid, predetermined. We are creating the future in the present moment and it is always subject to variability and change.

Entertaining write-up but that's all I see it as, entertainment. Sounds like a clever ploy by an individual to get others to subscribe to the biblical version of the 'end times' or tribulation. My intuition tells me not to trust this write-up but that's just me.

peace
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Yes, I am also skeptical. Some of what he posts seems to contradict the Bible:

"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he reveals his secret to his servants the prophets."

Amos 3:7
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Pretty impressive description.
Hopefully thats the love we'll all find at the end, and escape the swirling snarls of bad emotions we become encumbered with!
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well said.
Also, pin it

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Screw it - I'm not planting any tomatoes in 2013...

My wife will though...
Best Wishes,
Uncle Alyosha

And here's a GLP-appropriate Bible verse (atheists may read, too):

God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong.

- 1 Corinthians 1:27
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THIS IS VERY REAL I HAD A VISION OF HIM THREE YEARS AGO AND HE WAS CHANGING HIS FACE EVERY STEP HE TOOK TOWARDS ME AT FIRST HIS FACE WAS A LITTLE AFRICAN BOYS THEN AN ASIAN GIRL THEN A WHITE CHILD BUT HIS BODY WAS SPARKLING LIGHT MOVING ALL AROUND AND THEIR WAS A CIRCUS OF ORBS AND ANGELS ALL AROUND HIM AND WHEN HE GOT RIGHT UP IN MY FACE HE SAID {{I AM!}}beauty
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
 Quoting: knowing 25512421


There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
 Quoting: knowing 25512421


There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness


Well then what do YOU say is to happen next?
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
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There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
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There is no scripture that explicitly says that a new temple will be built, even as there is no scripture that says the Jews will return to their land before Messiah comes. (All the scriptures about the end time return speak of a return of all Israel, not just the Jews, and Isaiah 66 explicitly says this will happen after Messiah comes, not before.)

But it is physically impossible for the man of sin to "sit as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4) if there is no temple. And it is physically impossible to take away the "daily sacrifice" (Daniel 8:11-13) if no daily sacrifice is being offered. Likewise, Daniel 8:14 explicitly says that after 2300 days "then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Again, it is physically impossible to cleanse a sanctuary that does not exist.
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How is being an atheist a pointless way to live..what a pathetic thing to say.My life is awesome! Totally sucked growing up with fanatic Christians..
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A fallen away one is not an atheist. Yawn.
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How is being an atheist a pointless way to live..what a pathetic thing to say.My life is awesome! Totally sucked growing up with fanatic Christians..
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A fallen away one is not an atheist. Yawn.
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
 Quoting: knowing 25512421


There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness


There is no scripture that explicitly says that a new temple will be built, even as there is no scripture that says the Jews will return to their land before Messiah comes. (All the scriptures about the end time return speak of a return of all Israel, not just the Jews, and Isaiah 66 explicitly says this will happen after Messiah comes, not before.)

But it is physically impossible for the man of sin to "sit as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4) if there is no temple. And it is physically impossible to take away the "daily sacrifice" (Daniel 8:11-13) if no daily sacrifice is being offered. Likewise, Daniel 8:14 explicitly says that after 2300 days "then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Again, it is physically impossible to cleanse a sanctuary that does not exist.
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The sanctuary in question is the true Sanctuary which is in heaven. The earthly sanctuary which Moses was commanded to be built was only a copy, a pattern of the heavenly Sanctuary in heaven, in which Jesus is now a High Priest, and has been since His ascension to heaven. This is what the whole book of Hebrews is about.

"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.... as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount." Hebrews 8:1-5
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
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There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
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Well then what do YOU say is to happen next?
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Do you really want to know? What I have to share with you will be quite unbelievable to you. However, if you choose to believe it may save your life.
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I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding.

When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive?

Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start.

We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known.
 Quoting: knowing 25512421


There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea.

Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness


Well then what do YOU say is to happen next?
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Do you really want to know? What I have to share with you will be quite unbelievable to you. However, if you choose to believe it may save your life.
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I have no tolerance for those that may be false prophets.
but if Jesus Christ has a true revelation from one of his choice vessels I am truly all ears.
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OP - Do you believe that Jesus is Lord??
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