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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17284417 Australia 12/29/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An estimated 400 - 600 pounds of plutonuim nano-dust was released from the Fukushima reactor #3 explosion. Scientists say that only 200 pounds of the nano-dust is required to kill off the human race. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1076652 Americans inhaled an estimated 10-15 plutonium particles after the Fukushima explosion. Only 1 particle is required for an almost 100% chance of lung cancer. Yes, partially especially in the Northern Hemisphere. The effects will become more evident in the next 6-12 months. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 12/29/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was serious, does it have any odor? Cause if there were nuclear material in the air wouldn't monitors pick it up? I life on the West Coast and have been concerned about this Fuckushima disaster ever since the quake. And then what, tell the masses they are dead? The few who survive the dusting might be killed in chaos. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 12/29/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hear is some truth about Plutonium you can trust. Plutonium is a heavy element and will NOT travel far. The height of ejection will increase range of potential inhalation. Plutonium is easily expelled in the gastrointestinal track with very little to no danger to the person. Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. Unless you were near Tokyo or Fukushima during the meltdown and/or the dumping of water period, you have nothing to worry about. The ones I am concerned over are the US Naval personnel stationed off the Japanese coast. They actually sailed south and scrubbed the outside deck(s) clean. Because they sailed right into the plume. But those in the US should not worry about plutonium death. The chances of inhalation of Plutonium is next to none. You will shit it out if consumed from Japanese foods. It will not harm you in the air radioactively speaking as it is Alpha radiation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1371470 United States 12/29/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will just leave you with this quote by the most famous nuclear technician of all time whose knowledge is a must at times like these "You know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button". ... Quote by Homer J Simpson . Quoting: nibiflex My Wife's Wisdom; Why does mankind build a fire it can not put out? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30746233 United States 12/29/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hear is some truth about Plutonium you can trust. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Plutonium is a heavy element and will NOT travel far. The height of ejection will increase range of potential inhalation. Plutonium is easily expelled in the gastrointestinal track with very little to no danger to the person. Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. Unless you were near Tokyo or Fukushima during the meltdown and/or the dumping of water period, you have nothing to worry about. The ones I am concerned over are the US Naval personnel stationed off the Japanese coast. They actually sailed south and scrubbed the outside deck(s) clean. Because they sailed right into the plume. But those in the US should not worry about plutonium death. The chances of inhalation of Plutonium is next to none. You will shit it out if consumed from Japanese foods. It will not harm you in the air radioactively speaking as it is Alpha radiation. New Study: Aerosolized plutonium from Fukushima detected in Europe — Spent fuel indicated Lujanienė G, Byčenkienė S, Povinec PP, Gera M.; Environmental Research Department, SRI Center for Physical Sciences and Technology, Lithuania Radionuclides from the Fukushima accident in the air over Lithuania Activity concentration of (239,240)Pu One aerosol sample Collected from 23 March to 15 April, 2011 Found to be 44.5 nBq/m(3) Activity ratio of (238)Pu/(239,240)Pu in the aerosol sample was 1.2, indicating a presence of the spent fuel of different origin than that of the Chernobyl accident [link to enenews.com] Radionuclides from the Fukushima accident in the air over Lithuania: measurement and modelling approaches. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] |
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lupa14714 User ID: 23350068 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you people fucking nuts... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12774950 If you don't remember there is still another bigger one in RUSSIA that is going to go Nova Any year now, [link to en.wikipedia.org] So quit worring about just Japan, because between them both, Were all dead we just don't know it yet.. So get outside of the box and get this Tread pinned.. Because it would seem you have all forgotten about 1986 And the E.L.E going on in russia Whadya mean going to go nova? supanova? church of euthanasia. [link to www.facebook.com] have just left my paranormal photos on,as I,m leaving soon.some you have to see whole picture,as clipped. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23231420 United States 12/29/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hear is some truth about Plutonium you can trust. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Plutonium is a heavy element and will NOT travel far. The height of ejection will increase range of potential inhalation. Plutonium is easily expelled in the gastrointestinal track with very little to no danger to the person. Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. Unless you were near Tokyo or Fukushima during the meltdown and/or the dumping of water period, you have nothing to worry about. The ones I am concerned over are the US Naval personnel stationed off the Japanese coast. They actually sailed south and scrubbed the outside deck(s) clean. Because they sailed right into the plume. But those in the US should not worry about plutonium death. The chances of inhalation of Plutonium is next to none. You will shit it out if consumed from Japanese foods. It will not harm you in the air radioactively speaking as it is Alpha radiation. So around the globe isn't far??? Also Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. This is what worries me about the fukushima posts. Suddenly every wikipedia expert decides to chime in with misinformaiton. Not to say doing so as to "shill". But because their belief and understanding is under par to the subject content... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12774950 Canada 12/29/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you people fucking nuts... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12774950 If you don't remember there is still another bigger one in RUSSIA that is going to go Nova Any year now, [link to en.wikipedia.org] So quit worring about just Japan, because between them both, Were all dead we just don't know it yet.. So get outside of the box and get this Tread pinned.. Because it would seem you have all forgotten about 1986 And the E.L.E going on in russia Whadya mean going to go nova? supanova? Yea! that is what i ment. The core in this one is worse then fuki, the fuel the were using was safer in japan, the russians were useing something more dangerous if i can remember. and i think they still don't have it under control because they are asking for help to enclose it better. i will look for the upto date news on it and you will see the russian one is going to be getting worse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30746233 United States 12/29/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you people fucking nuts... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12774950 If you don't remember there is still another bigger one in RUSSIA that is going to go Nova Any year now, [link to en.wikipedia.org] So quit worring about just Japan, because between them both, Were all dead we just don't know it yet.. So get outside of the box and get this Tread pinned.. Because it would seem you have all forgotten about 1986 And the E.L.E going on in russia No. No we're not. Three meltdowns. MOX Fuel. Ongoing. Thread: Fukushima released 200% as much radioactive iodine as Chernobyl — Only includes Reactors 1 and 3 Thread: Radio: Fukushima ranked Level 8 on newly developed nuclear scale, above Chernobyl (CHART) Thread: *Asahi* Japan Physicist: Several millions will need to be evacuated from around Fukushima plant if gov’t used same scale as after Chernobyl Thread: Tepco estimates total cesium-137 release from Fukushima at 360,000 terabecquerels — 4 times higher than Chernobyl’s 85,000 terabecquerels Thread: GUNDERSEN - Nuclear Expert on Top US Radio Show: ‘When I do the numbers, it says Fukushima is as bad or worse than Chernobyl’ (AUDIO) Thread: Oregon Paper: Radiation from Fukushima exceeds Chernobyl — Now at level unknown to humans or machines — Human rights violations? And the latest from TEPCO: Thread: Low doses release from Fukushima?.. bollocks.. Tepco released on 12/27/2012, 10 million Bq of cesium-134/1 per HOUR |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31068738 France 12/29/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, and I hope you guys are ok over there. You've been through a shit storm these last few years and more. Respect to the average Japanese, but really question your governments integrity sometimes. As in, I question their apparent inability to tell the truth to the people over there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12774950 Canada 12/29/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you people fucking nuts... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12774950 If you don't remember there is still another bigger one in RUSSIA that is going to go Nova Any year now, [link to en.wikipedia.org] So quit worring about just Japan, because between them both, Were all dead we just don't know it yet.. So get outside of the box and get this Tread pinned.. Because it would seem you have all forgotten about 1986 And the E.L.E going on in russia No. No we're not. Three meltdowns. MOX Fuel. Ongoing. Thread: Fukushima released 200% as much radioactive iodine as Chernobyl — Only includes Reactors 1 and 3 Thread: Radio: Fukushima ranked Level 8 on newly developed nuclear scale, above Chernobyl (CHART) Thread: *Asahi* Japan Physicist: Several millions will need to be evacuated from around Fukushima plant if gov’t used same scale as after Chernobyl Thread: Tepco estimates total cesium-137 release from Fukushima at 360,000 terabecquerels — 4 times higher than Chernobyl’s 85,000 terabecquerels Thread: GUNDERSEN - Nuclear Expert on Top US Radio Show: ‘When I do the numbers, it says Fukushima is as bad or worse than Chernobyl’ (AUDIO) Thread: Oregon Paper: Radiation from Fukushima exceeds Chernobyl — Now at level unknown to humans or machines — Human rights violations? And the latest from TEPCO: Thread: Low doses release from Fukushima?.. bollocks.. Tepco released on 12/27/2012, 10 million Bq of cesium-134/1 per HOUR Here i dug up a little more. Here is a little reading entertainmet. 60% of the fallout landed in Belarus The Russian publication Chernobyl concludes that among the billions of people worldwide who were exposed to radioactive contamination from the disaster, nearly a million premature cancer deaths occurred between 1986 and 2004 Radioactive release Contributions of the various isotopes to the (atmospheric) dose in the contaminated area soon after the accident Like many other releases of radioactivity into the environment, the Chernobyl release was controlled by the physical and chemical properties of the radioactive elements in the core. While the general population often perceives plutonium as a particularly dangerous nuclear fuel, its effects are almost eclipsed by those of its fission products. Particularly dangerous are highly radioactive compounds that accumulate in the food chain, such as some isotopes of iodine and strontium. Two reports on the release of radioisotopes from the site were made available, one by the OSTI and a more detailed report by the OECD, both in 1998.[96][97] At different times after the accident, different isotopes were responsible for the majority of the external dose. The dose that was calculated is that received from external gamma irradiation for a person standing in the open. The dose to a person in a shelter or the internal dose is harder to estimate. The release of radioisotopes from the nuclear fuel was largely controlled by their boiling points, and the majority of the radioactivity present in the core was retained in the reactor. All of the noble gases, including krypton and xenon, contained within the reactor were released immediately into the atmosphere by the first steam explosion. 55% of the radioactive iodine in the reactor, containing about 1760 PBq or 400 kg of I-131, was released, as a mixture of vapor, solid particles, and organic iodine compounds. Caesium (85 PBq Cs-137[98]) and tellurium were released in aerosol form. An early estimate for fuel material released to the environment was 3 ± 1.5%; this was later revised to 3.5 ± 0.5%. This corresponds to the atmospheric emission of 6 t of fragmented fuel.[97] Total atmospheric release is estimated at 5200 PBq.[99] Two sizes of particles were released: small particles of 0.3 to 1.5 micrometers (aerodynamic diameter) and large particles of 10 micrometers. The large particles contained about 80% to 90% of the released nonvolatile radioisotopes zirconium-95, niobium-95, lanthanum-140, cerium-144 and the transuranic elements, including neptunium, plutonium and the minor actinides, embedded in a uranium oxide matrix. Aftermath Following the accident, questions arose about the future of the plant and its eventual fate. All work on the unfinished reactors 5 and 6 was halted three years later. However, the trouble at the Chernobyl plant did not end with the disaster in reactor 4. The damaged reactor was sealed off and 200 cubic meters (260 cu yd) of concrete was placed between the disaster site and the operational buildings.[citation needed] The Ukrainian government continued to let the three remaining reactors operate because of an energy shortage in the country. Decommissioning Main article: Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant#Decommissioning In 1991, a fire broke out in the turbine building of reactor 2;[143] the authorities subsequently declared the reactor damaged beyond repair and had it taken offline. Reactor 1 was decommissioned in November 1996 as part of a deal between the Ukrainian government and international organizations such as the IAEA to end operations at the plant. On 15 December 2000, then-President Leonid Kuchma personally turned off Reactor 3 in an official ceremony, shutting down the entire site.[144] [link to en.wikipedia.org] They try to down play it some but we all know there is nothing safe about this and its getting worse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31072420 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will just leave you with this quote by the most famous nuclear technician of all time whose knowledge is a must at times like these "You know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button". ... Quote by Homer J Simpson . Quoting: nibiflex My Wife's Wisdom; Why does mankind build a fire it can not put out? ^^^^ your wife is at her senses sir the sense of every living thing, from a single cell upwards, without exception is to move away from any form of entropy. if humans were more at their senses then the next question would be - why set fire to anything? babylon is a fire derived culture, it goes agsinst our senses. every problem on earth looks to be result of lighting fires. -thats how we left our natural home by adapting our new enviro to suite our natural one/neeeds. and now we lost that sense... now to the point where we are 'in love' with the problem..we even consume fire (smoke, cooked food etc) -its destroys and causes imbalance/free radicals that cause cellular damage within, and pollution around us. if we ment to have evolved, then how come the brain has been shrinking and is assymetrical since about the start of its use?, the endocrine system atrophied and calcified?, the ancients beliefs that we have 'fallen'? ...is 'free radicalling' a good description of whats going on everywhere? is that why the devil is seen as the man on fire and hell as fire, for example? self desires/imagination rules in babylon. yeh why light afire at all..? -nothing greater comes from it. if we lived where we were 'Designed' (tropical fruit/lead eating apes) we need it not, like the other animals... look at their health - look at ours -sickest species on planet by magnitudes. only domesticated animals that are subjected to fire show signs of similar degeneration. babylon collapse is inevitable- everything entropic, by its nature, comes to an end. and we under estimate what we were where we came from. its about looking at Reality as it is, and not as we would like to believe (imagination) imo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30887249 Japan 12/29/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, and I hope you guys are ok over there. You've been through a shit storm these last few years and more. Respect to the average Japanese, but really question your governments integrity sometimes. As in, I question their apparent inability to tell the truth to the people over there. I agree with you but the problem is much bigger because there is No-One who know the ultimate Truth and No-One know how this Disaster ends up, we only know that the next Accident will happen soon when we don't change our whole Society and the Way how we think and behave! The Prime Minister Kan told the Japanese the Truth: "We nearly lost Tokyo" (Tokyo had a Gross Domestic Product like France and the World would collapse) I am, in a Way, very happy that this Accident happened here in Japan and not in India, Bulgaria, China or for example Russia because Japan will grow by this Experiences, Consequences and problem-solution Solving! We should not listen to all this Doom-Tards and Pseudo-Scientists but we need to observe the Situation like a Mother observe her Children! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30746233 United States 12/29/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, and I hope you guys are ok over there. You've been through a shit storm these last few years and more. Respect to the average Japanese, but really question your governments integrity sometimes. As in, I question their apparent inability to tell the truth to the people over there. I agree with you but the problem is much bigger because there is No-One who know the ultimate Truth and No-One know how this Disaster ends up, we only know that the next Accident will happen soon when we don't change our whole Society and the Way how we think and behave! The Prime Minister Kan told the Japanese the Truth: "We nearly lost Tokyo" (Tokyo had a Gross Domestic Product like France and the World would collapse) I am, in a Way, very happy that this Accident happened here in Japan and not in India, Bulgaria, China or for example Russia because Japan will grow by this Experiences, Consequences and problem-solution Solving! We should not listen to all this Doom-Tards and Pseudo-Scientists but we need to observe the Situation like a Mother observe her Children! Seriously Atom Boy? You troll WBs thread. You have multiple accts. You post on every Fukushima thread. You insult posters. You call that observing? Here's one of your threads Thread: "Stop Comparing Fukushima to Chernobyl" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12774950 Canada 12/29/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, and I hope you guys are ok over there. You've been through a shit storm these last few years and more. Respect to the average Japanese, but really question your governments integrity sometimes. As in, I question their apparent inability to tell the truth to the people over there. I agree with you but the problem is much bigger because there is No-One who know the ultimate Truth and No-One know how this Disaster ends up, we only know that the next Accident will happen soon when we don't change our whole Society and the Way how we think and behave! The Prime Minister Kan told the Japanese the Truth: "We nearly lost Tokyo" (Tokyo had a Gross Domestic Product like France and the World would collapse) I am, in a Way, very happy that this Accident happened here in Japan and not in India, Bulgaria, China or for example Russia because Japan will grow by this Experiences, Consequences and problem-solution Solving! We should not listen to all this Doom-Tards and Pseudo-Scientists but we need to observe the Situation like a Mother observe her Children! Seriously Atom Boy? You troll WBs thread. You have multiple accts. You post on every Fukushima thread. You insult posters. You call that observing? Here's one of your threads Thread: "Stop Comparing Fukushima to Chernobyl" i can see in the link that again there is some downplaying, so they got lucky in japan because the people in the low lying areas got out early, Thats the only difference i see. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 12/29/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hear is some truth about Plutonium you can trust. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Plutonium is a heavy element and will NOT travel far. The height of ejection will increase range of potential inhalation. Plutonium is easily expelled in the gastrointestinal track with very little to no danger to the person. Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. Unless you were near Tokyo or Fukushima during the meltdown and/or the dumping of water period, you have nothing to worry about. The ones I am concerned over are the US Naval personnel stationed off the Japanese coast. They actually sailed south and scrubbed the outside deck(s) clean. Because they sailed right into the plume. But those in the US should not worry about plutonium death. The chances of inhalation of Plutonium is next to none. You will shit it out if consumed from Japanese foods. It will not harm you in the air radioactively speaking as it is Alpha radiation. So around the globe isn't far??? Also Plutonium is VERY lethal if inhaled. This is what worries me about the fukushima posts. Suddenly every wikipedia expert decides to chime in with misinformaiton. Not to say doing so as to "shill". But because their belief and understanding is under par to the subject content... re read carefully.....I posted plutonium is VERY lethal when inhaled. It results in a near guarantee of contracting terminal lung cancer. Ingesting it, such as in food, is not as lethal as it is easily expelled in the poo-poo. Now, think of the concentration levels in the air. Then think how little that is. Your odds of breathing in plutonium from Fukushima are less then winning the powerball, twice. Just because we breath air and air moves seemingly freely, doesn't mean you will breath it in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30746233 United States 12/29/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Radioactive Clouds: Rainout of hot particles to continue for another year — Not just in Pacific northwest, says Gundersen Thread: Fukushima Hot Particles are contaminating portions of northern Japan and US!!! VIDEO Thread: *** ARNIE GUNDERSEN - 8.1.11 - effect of hot particles when inhaled - concerns involving the long-term storage of nuclear waste *** Thread: “Very high concentrations” of hot particles in Pacific NW during April, May — Includes plutonium and americium (AUDIO) Thread: Nowhere to Run: Hot radioactive particles in Seattle at 50 percent of levels seen in Tokyo — Latches onto lung tissue (VIDEO) Thread: Scientists: Average person in Seattle breathed in 10 hot radioactive particles a day during April And Thread: Fukushima Part II? Tokyo to begin burning massive amounts of radioactive waste from disaster area — Burns will continue until 2014 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30887249 Japan 12/29/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, and I hope you guys are ok over there. You've been through a shit storm these last few years and more. Respect to the average Japanese, but really question your governments integrity sometimes. As in, I question their apparent inability to tell the truth to the people over there. I agree with you but the problem is much bigger because there is No-One who know the ultimate Truth and No-One know how this Disaster ends up, we only know that the next Accident will happen soon when we don't change our whole Society and the Way how we think and behave! The Prime Minister Kan told the Japanese the Truth: "We nearly lost Tokyo" (Tokyo had a Gross Domestic Product like France and the World would collapse) I am, in a Way, very happy that this Accident happened here in Japan and not in India, Bulgaria, China or for example Russia because Japan will grow by this Experiences, Consequences and problem-solution Solving! We should not listen to all this Doom-Tards and Pseudo-Scientists but we need to observe the Situation like a Mother observe her Children! Seriously Atom Boy? You troll WBs thread. You have multiple accts. You post on every Fukushima thread. You insult posters. You call that observing? Here's one of your threads Thread: "Stop Comparing Fukushima to Chernobyl" @ Honey Bunny, i always use only one Account and never ever post from two different Accounts and even when, who are you? My Opinion have the same Right like the Opinion from anyone else, when you cant accept this go to enenews! But go on with this, take your Friends by their hands and continue your intellectual Incest, Fool! |