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why we must reject gun confiscation & how to do it

 
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Why We Must Reject Gun Confiscation & How To Do It

Why is the Federal Government attempting to massively restrict our gun rights now? Amidst all the problems this country has; the debt ceiling, the fiscal cliff, shrinking manufacturing, rising unemployment, depreciating home values, higher prices at the grocery store and the gas station, why would they bring up gun control now. If you have read anything online about the Sandy Hook shooting,you’re well aware of all the holes in the official story. Adam Lanza was found with 2 pistols, then it was 4 pistols. The coroner, Wayne Carver, reported at a press conference that ALL the children were shot with “the long gun”, yet helicopter footage of the scene reveals state police pulling the bushmaster 223 “long gun” from the TRUNK of Adams car. Then we have the camo pants guy, Christopher Mazedonia, who was arrested after running into the woods, also caught on helicopter footage. We have police scanner audio reports of multiple shooters and a teacher, Lauren Rousseau, whose car was riddled with bullets out in the parking lot. There are many more strange and conflicting facts about this incident with more coming out everyday while the police have threatened to arrest any independent journalist that strays from the official story. My point here is that we are being lied to about what happened in order to achieve a political agenda of draconian gun control. Many potential mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens, one just 2 days after Sandy Hook in San Antonio. The answer for individual safety isn’t less guns, its more guns and more concealed weapons permits. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of “all guns are bad”. Crazy people with guns are bad, however we will never be able to stop all crazy people or criminals from obtaining guns. Blaming these mass shootings on guns is like blaming forks & spoons for obesity. The type of weapon used is irrelevant as the same death toll could be achieved by four 1860’s Colt revolvers. The legislation being introduced is just the first step to a total gun ban, as more mass shootings, whether government sponsored & staged or not, happen in order to achieve the political agenda of total citizen disarmament.
The real conversation we should be having in regards to this incident, which is relevant to every other mass shooting in the last 15 years, is what these psychotropic drugs are doing to people’s brains? Just read the side effects of these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI) like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, & Luvox. Thoughts of suicide top the list of side effects as well acreating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared. They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the s mood & behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, feeling impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive, and more depressed. These SSRI’s are just the tip of the iceberg of mind altering drugs the pharmaceutical companies & psychiatric field have armed general practitioners with. General Practitioners have little to no training in such fields and don’t spend near enough time with patients in order to determine whether prescribing these dangerous mind-altering drugs will alleviate their patient’s ailments. Remember that Doctors “PRACTICE” and when more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died in combat while most, if not all of them, were on these types of drugs, it is apparent they have No idea what they’re doing. But the politicians and the media aren’t focusing on that. They are blaming guns, Gun Owners of America, the NRA, and anyone else that supports the second amendment, all the while theses same politicians and media have concealed weapons permits, armed bodyguards, and send their kids to schools that have armed security guards. So why now, with all the financial troubles, would they attempt to pile on more attacks against our bill of rights?
The NDAA, Nation Defense Authorization Act, has taken away our rights to a jury trial, access to a lawyer, and even legalized indefinite detention without being informed of any charges against you, and Now they want your GUNS.
I have to inform you that, the Real Reason they are attempting to Disarm You is because of our Nation’s Financial Problems. While giving a speech for John Corzine’s reelection campaign as New Jersey Governor, Vice President Joe Biden referred to a conversation they had with the transition team in 2008. It was whether they needed to have “a Bank Holiday,” Joe turns, looks at John and says again, “a Bank Holiday”. Listening to the speech, ol’ Joe had NO idea the ramifications of what a Bank Holiday really meant or he wouldn’t have mentioned it in public. You could see John cringe on stage as he mentioned it. Joe later went on to say that they sought out and took John’s advice. Double down, pass a stimulus package, unlimited money printing, and additional bank bailouts. They took advice from a morally bankrupt man that would go on to steal $1.6 Billion dollars of segregated customer accounts as the head of MF Global. Otherwise Jamie Dimon at J.P. Morgan would have whacked John over the European bond shorts that went bust. These actions allowed the Obama administration to kick the ever growing can down the road, get ObamaCare passed, and further bankrupt every business, municipality, State, and the Federal Government. What is a Bank Holiday you may ask? The last one occurred from March 6-10 1933, 2 days after Roosevelt’s inauguration. This froze all bank deposits during the ‘holiday’. When the Banks reopened after the 10th, some were wiped outcompletely, some allowed only deposits to be made, some allowed withdrawals up to a certain percentage, and some reopened under normal conditions. Depositors lost millions and in today’s money would be trillions. Roosevelt’s real crime came on April 5, when he signed executive order 6102 and like a dictator without legislation, outlawed the private ownership of gold by the public. This is where the Federal Theft happened. An amnesty period was given to the public where you could turn in your gold coins and be paid $20.67 per ounce. January 20th 1934 the gold reserve act revalued gold to $35 an ounce instantly devaluing the people paper dollars by 40%. This Massive wealth confiscation allowed for the creation of the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has been manipulating all of our exchange markets including the price of gold and silver, for the benefit of the banks, ever since. There is a reason Grandma told you to keep your money under your mattress, because the old timers knew Not to trust the banks.
Fast forward to today; the FDIC is completely insolvent having only $35 Billion or so on hand to handle any crisis. The Derivative market liabilities are in the Hundreds of Trillions of Dollars just for the United States and exceed $1.5 Quadrillion world wide. Because Clinton ended Glass-Steagal in 1999 with the Financial Modernization Act, the separation between commercial banking and investment banking has been erased and large financial institutions like Bank of America and J.P Morgan have moved their derivative books to the tune of over $70 Trillion each, from their investment side to their commercial side taking advantage of lower capitol requirements and FDIC insurance. Most of the derivatives are interest rates swaps which are sold to municipalities and school boards to offset the potential rise in interest rates. The Fraud comes as these interest rate swaps are tied to the manipulated Libor (London InterBank offer rate). Because LIBOR is manipulated lower, illegally, while real interest rates rise, these municipalities and school boards are left paying the difference. There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of claims by these municipalities, school boards, and others against these banks because of this illegal manipulation.
Also interesting is that Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza, the tax director for GE Financial, and the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes’ father, Robert Holmes, lead scientist for the credit score company FICO were both set to testify in front of the Senate on the LIBOR scandal. 16 Banks have been implemented in this fraud and the potential losses would destroy them. In short the entire system is on the verge of collapse and that’s why the Government is dragging their feet with the LIBOR investigation, the CFTC’s investigation of the Silver market manipulation, now going on 4 years, and it’s why there was only a fine of $1.9 Billion Dollars levied against HSBC for Drug Money Laundering because admission of criminal wrong doing or criminal prosecution in any of these cases would send the entire system over the real fiscal cliff and $35 Billion at the FDIC isn’t going to save you.
They want your guns because if you go looking for any of your money, you’re going to find out that it has been stolen and if they print it out of thin air to give it back to you, it won’t be worth half of what it is now. China, India, and Russia to name a few are taking advantage of the current can kicking to scoop up as much Gold and Silver as they can before the system collapses. There is no Gold and Silver in size left. There is a current stand for December delivery of 20 million ounces of Silver. The Comex will default and if your holding a paper certificate that claims ownership of some metal, you better read the fine print of your contract because your about to be settled in devalued paper or left out in the cold like the MF’ed Global Customers.
They want your guns because they can’t have their Bank Holiday while you’re still armed. They can’t devalue the currency while you’re still armed. They can’t throw millions of people out of their homes while you’re still armed. They can’t confiscate farms, vehicles, and property while you’re still armed. They can’t take your IRA, 401k, and Pension while you’re still armed. And most importantly they can’t convince foreign troops from Russia, China, and DHS only knows where, to participate in this confiscation while you’re still armed. They want a Hot civil war between the civilian population and the Police & Military. There have been many years of profiling in the military and as this confiscation gets closer, those troops who would defend the Constitution and arrest those officers that give unlawful orders are going to be shipped overseas to fight another senseless war, only this time they’re going to be left there. Police Departments have been bribed with federal funds for years to militarize and brainwash their officers into vilifying, demonizing, and rejecting the bill of rights. When police officers can pull you over and Rape you on the side of the road in front of the dash camera, as happened in Texas recently, and then have those actions defended by the department, you have lost all your rights. The only thing keeping these abuses from becoming the new normal is that you’re still armed.
You have allowed yourself and your children to be radiated and molested by the TSA in order to fly. The only thing stopping them from doing it on the street is you’re still armed. Your second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, shooting sports, collection, or tradition. Any Politician that speaks of it this way has exposed him or herself as a Traitor. Your Second amendment is about protecting yourself and your family from criminals and a Tyrannical Government. When Obama can order the killing of US citizens both domestically and abroad without charge or trial, you have a tyranny. When this president signs executive orders allowing him to do or confiscate what ever he wishes in the name of an “emergency” and or “National Security” You have a tyranny. When the NSA tracks every electronic communication without warrant, You have a Tyranny. When this government threatens States to pass legislation or their funding will be cut off, You have a Tyranny. The only thing stopping them from taking all you have, including your life, is you’re still armed.
Now that we know what we are up against, what do we do about it? Now that we know that this financial system is going to be destroyed and there is no stopping it, what do we do? Now that we know that the Federal Government isn’t going to stop until we are disarmed, bankrupted, homeless, hungry, and enslaved for debt saddled on us by banks that created the debt out of thin air. Parasitic Banks that will use the Federal Government to take what We the People have spent lifetimes working for, without lifting a finger to contribute to any of it. What will we do?
Doug Haggman was on a radio show Friday the 28thof December 2012. Doug said of his FEMA source, the one thing they fear is people stop feeding the beast. They Fear us not paying our taxes, they fear us not contributing to our IRA’s and 401k’s, they fear us not paying our mortgage, they fear us not eating their genetically modified foods, and rejecting their poisonous vaccines. They fear us Not filing our taxes and Not writing this criminal Government a check in April. If that is what they Fear, then that is what we must do.
I have divided the actions you must take into 2 categories; the first is individual actions that You and ONLY YOU must do in order to peacefully fight back against this Tyranny and protect yourself from the collapse as much as possible. You must do these things immediately because we do Not have much time left. There will be more shootings or worse in order to speed the gun confiscation along because the Financial System doesn’t have much time left. Under their plan, the majority of you can’t be armed during a Bank Holiday and Dollar devaluation so we must force them into this position earlier than they’d like by causing Bank Runs. The second category is things you must educate other about, will take more time to ret results, and must only be done after the individual actions are completed.
Individual Actions
1. Tomorrow at your job, go down to your HR department or request from your employer a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your check that will go against your Tax bill in April. You want as high a number as you can for your deductions. You want as much money in your check every week as you can get. You don’t want any extra taken out and you want this form filed with the accountant immediately. Get several blank copies to give to fellow employees and let them know what you are doing and why. These withholdings are paid quarterly and won’t hit Feds immediately. The lag time in the paperwork and subsequent reduced payments to the Feds will allow you enough time to get the rest of these actions completed. You can’t do anything about the FICA Social Security Ponzi which paid out $50 Billion more then it took in this year, but you can cut out most of what you pay the Federal Reserve in interest payments on the national debt that was created out of thin air.
2. Liquidate all Paper assets at the same time, Notify your IRA and 401k holders of your intent to liquidate and cash out immediately. Take whatever penalty is assessed. Sell all Stocks, Bonds, or other securities your may have. Liquidate everything into your FDIC Bank account. What ever penalty or loss you may take is far better than being forced into long term treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash which will happen in 2013, or complete confiscation of your accounts as in MF Global, on top of a 60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Withdraw any savings, and leave only what you need to pay immediate bills in your FDIC checking account until you can transition over to a small Local Credit Union. Once all of your paper assets have been liquidated and cashed out of your FDIC Bank, you can close all your FDIC accounts. Keep only what you need to pay bills in your Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. We want the banks to limit withdrawsin cash because that will spread like wildfire and cause more Bank Runs. Once people see that they can’t get money out of the bank they will be much less likely to turn in their guns as their normalcy bias has been shattered and they no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. There will be no smooth talking fireside chat that will talk people out of getting their cash this time around. There is a legal tender law that protects the legitimacy of cash, Not checks, & Not plastic, which can be shut off at anytime. My favorite thing about cash is that it is anonymous, it doesn’t depend on electricity to function, and there is no way of tracking it. You must act early in this game because once it starts, it will escalate very, very quickly. Stop receiving your paycheck as a direct deposit if possible. You want the physical check and Cash it from the bank where it is written out from. If the fees to cash the check are high, keep a minimum account but be prepared to lose it, or laugh at them as you pay it and say “whatever helps keep you criminals solvent”. They will usually ask you if you want to open an account. I usually respond with laughter and an insolvency joke. Other customers may take notice of this and may close their accounts after some research of their own because of it. It’s worth the 6 or 7 bucks you’ll pay to cash the check. Ending direct deposit may not be possible in some cases so you may want to keep your FDIC account open for the sole purpose of having it deposited there, Withdrawn in cash, and what is needed to pay bills, deposited in your Credit Union account. The Goal is to drain the FDIC banks of physical cash and have some of that cash deposited and available at your Credit Union.
3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying a dime because the backlog of foreclosed properties is swamping the market with over 20 million homes in shadow inventory they can’t move. If they put them on the market, it would collapse all real estate values. It also costs the bank money to upkeep the house if no one is living in it. If you’re worried about your credit score, realize this. Your credit can’t be any better than the credit of the Country you live in and that’s going straight down the toilet. The Federal Reserve is printing out of thin air, the money to buy over $40 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities every month. You are Renting from a Private Bank who prints out of thin air, what you work 30 years or more for.
4. If you owe on Credit Cards, withdraw as much cash from them as possible and stop paying them. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it doesn’t exist until you swipe the card. Again it’s more money being created out of thin air and they are charging you exorbitant amounts of interest on it. One simple concept you must understand about our currency system is that all money is circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam? So don’t feel bad when you throw those bills in the trash or tell the bill collector your going to sue them for harassment and that they work for Satan, and they should get a Flu Shot, ok I went too far with that last one, but you get the point.
5. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DON’T File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ‘Freedom to Fascism’ with Aaron Russo if you doubt me. If this system is still in place for the 2013 tax season, which it shouldn’t if enough people follow this plan, and you maximized your deductions on you w-4, and you don’t qualify for the earned income tax credit, you will owe, so Don’t file, Don’t comply, and don’t worry because you have exited their banking system. This plan is about peaceful non-compliance, but as soon as their goons try to take you away, remember, that’s why you’re armed.
6. What to do with all the cash you’ve withdrawn from the system? You need to get armed if you haven’t already. At least one fire arm for every member of your household that can handle one. 3 months to a year of storable food. Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds. Look into solar panels, wind turbines, generators, alcohol as a fuel, a Diesel powered vehicle and a way to produce fuel for it. I saw a youtube video about a truck running off of a gasification system by burning dried cow manure. To put it simply, Invest in yourself. All this money you had tied up in all of these paper accounts was being used against you. If you had a 401k or IRA there is a good chance that you were invested in Monsanto, DuPont, GE, or some other company whose sole purpose was to poison you, keep you sick, and squeeze every dime it could out of you while locking up any new technology that came along, keeping you a slave to the rent seeking system that only benefits the powers that be. You will become your own doctor, You will become your own mechanic, and you will become your own farmer. Buy physical books on these subjects. The Most important thing Everyone needs to buy is Gold and Silver coins. I can’t tell you what percentage of money should be spent on preparation vs coins. If you live in or near a major city, you’ll want more coins than preps. Everyone should get armed, heirloom seeds, at least 30 days of food, water filtration, and basic camping gear backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. These should be contained in a bugout bag and you should have some idea where you’re going to go if the cities get crazy during the bank holiday. In all likelihood they will. If you are in the suburbs you’ll more than likely want to stay where you are therefore spending more on preps than coins, establishing alternative electricity, fuel, and food production will be essential. Getting as many neighbors involved in prepping will reduce the amount people running around acting crazy trying to feed themselves and their families. If you’re out in the country, go wild with your preps. Have 3 or 4 seasons of heirloom seeds, start researching alcohol as a fuel and build a still to produce it. Get solar and wind generators. The most important thing for everyone NOT to do is shoot at each other as the first means of contact. People moving from the urban areas should head to the rural areas as this is where the labor will be needed to start growing food with the limited use of tractors, pesticide and herbicides. Those of you in the rural areas, accept new people, don’t shoot first, and accept gold and silver as trade for some of your extra supplies. It would be better that the further out from a city you are, the more extra food you should have and the less silver and gold coins you’ll initially need. Getting the gold and silver coins now isn’t about a new investment; it isn’t about making money, or gaining wealth. It is about creating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared. They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the purity. Never buy larger then a 10 ounce bar in silver and a one ounce coin or bar in gold. When Buying Gold try to find the smallest denomination possible. They make 1 gram, 5 gram, 10 gram, ect.. size ingots sealed on a credit card sized plastic that are best. If you have over $10,000 to spend on coins, I would suggest 10% in gold and the rest in silver split 60% fine, 30% junk. With $100,000 I would be at 40% Gold, 50% fine silver, 10% Junk. The Idea is that if you had to pick up and leave suddenly, you want to be able to carry the majority of your metal along with other necessities with you. For instance if you’re a rich frail old man that lives in the city, you may want 90% gold, 5% Fine silver, and 5% Junk. You need at least a little of each type of silver. Remember this will act as the new currency. We must reject any foreign currency, international currency, purely digital currency, or any private bank issued currency as we now have in the Federal Reserve Note.
The Point of all of these steps is to cause Bank Runs, set up an alternative currency, become as self-sufficient as possible, cause the comex to default, catapult the real value of these metals, expose the dollar for the toilet paper that it is, and force the Government to skip the gun confiscation step and go straight to the Bank Holiday.
Are the police and military going to risk there lives for a non existent pension and payment in worthless dollars? Sure a few of the psychopaths will, but far fewer will be willing to participate if they know their pay is worthless. A personal message to the police and military; It is not enough that you don’t follow unlawful and or unconstitutional orders as outlined by OATHKEEPERS.ORG. It is your responsibility to Arrest and detain any superior giving those orders as well as any other peers who attempt to carry out those orders. If you follow unlawful or unconstitutional orders, you are no longer law enforcement officers, citizens on patrol, or any other variation of legitimate or legal title. If you execute unconstitutional and or unlawful orders, your become seditious mercenaries for Foreign Bankers engaged in TREASON in violation of your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, Your badge means nothing, your rank means nothing, your title means nothing. Do Not allow foreign ‘observers’ in your department. Do Not be Separated from your Families, The Government will use them as leverage to get you to follow these orders. Military personal, Refuse to deploy without a declaration of war by the Congress. The President cannot unilaterally send you into a foreign country without it, and foreign Wars cannot be fought if you don’t show up. Our so called leaders have lost all credibility. How many more of you must die before you collectively say enough, and go home?
The next set of things you must do and should be done in groups is to study up on the State Bank of North Dakota, and how State issued debt free notes and Modern Monetary Theory can be used to establish a functioning State and still allow for growth, commerce, and infrastructure rebuilding. Look up Bill Still’s work on YouTube, “The Secret of OZ” and “The Money Masters” for crash courses in these subjects. Get this information to your State Houses, so they can begin to think about a new monetary paradigm. They probably wont be very receptive at first but when no will buy their new bond issues and they are defaulting on old ones with tax revenues collapsing, they’ll remember you and listen.
Pen Pal Prisoners and tell them all to stop working. Stop working in the kitchen, stop working on state property, and stop working for private companies. They must understand that by working they are creating incentives for the State to create new laws, lock up more people for longer sentences, and force them to work for slave wages while killing jobs for the rest of us. The only job prisoners should embrace is picking up trash along the road because there is no way to make money by exploiting that labor. Do this and watch how many non violent offenders go free. By working they are guaranteeing a longer sentence for themselves and everyone who comes behind them. The prison industrial complex has become as big a tyranny as the military industrial complex.
The War on Drugs is a fraud considering the majority of drugs are shipped in by the government, the banking system is dependent on the drug money laundering proceeds for liquidity, the private prison system relies on slave labor to remain profitable, Prescription drugs are far more dangerous than the illegal ones, and the Justice Department and ATF ships guns to Mexican Drug Cartels “Fast and Furious” in exchange for Narcotics. These “Assault Rifles” end up at the murder scenes of multiple Boarder Patrol Agents, are responsible for thousands deaths along the boarder of Mexico including children, and they expect you to turn in your guns. Gun Confiscation is always preceded by gun registration, and Government sanctioned genocide afterward. Just ask any Cambodian, Armenian, Jew, Russian, or Chinese. The truth is, Governments with a monopoly of force are responsible for at least 264 million deaths of their own citizens over the last century. We must not allow ourselves to be next. Let the Bank Runs begin & Stop Feeding the BEAST.
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sorry to poo-poo your thread, but haven't you ever heard of a paragraph?.....
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Save the country from total destruction and convince others to join you in one paragraph, Ill work on shorting it. I know we have a shory attention span and this paper was written for the general public, not this audience, but I wanted to post it here first.
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Save the country from total destruction and convince others to join you in one paragraph, Ill work on shorting it. I know we have a shory attention span and this paper was written for the general public, not this audience, but I wanted to post it here first.
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It's not necessarily to long. There's just no discernible trace of a paragraph and it's almost impossible to read.
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summarize this shit tldr
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dont have the patients to read a novel
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I would read if you would break up the wall of text with paragraphs of related ideas
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Re: why we must reject gun confiscation & how to do it
Why We Must Reject Gun Confiscation & How To Do It

Why is the Federal Government attempting to massively restrict our gun rights now? Amidst all the problems this country has; the debt ceiling, the fiscal cliff, shrinking manufacturing, rising unemployment, depreciating home values, higher prices at the grocery store and the gas station, why would they bring up gun control now. If you have read anything online about the Sandy Hook shooting,you’re well aware of all the holes in the official story. Adam Lanza was found with 2 pistols, then it was 4 pistols. The coroner, Wayne Carver, reported at a press conference that ALL the children were shot with “the long gun”, yet helicopter footage of the scene reveals state police pulling the bushmaster 223 “long gun” from the TRUNK of Adams car. Then we have the camo pants guy, Christopher Mazedonia, who was arrested after running into the woods, also caught on helicopter footage. We have police scanner audio reports of multiple shooters and a teacher, Lauren Rousseau, whose car was riddled with bullets out in the parking lot. There are many more strange and conflicting facts about this incident with more coming out everyday while the police have threatened to arrest any independent journalist that strays from the official story. My point here is that we are being lied to about what happened in order to achieve a political agenda of draconian gun control. Many potential mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens, one just 2 days after Sandy Hook in San Antonio. The answer for individual safety isn’t less guns, its more guns and more concealed weapons permits. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of “all guns are bad”. Crazy people with guns are bad, however we will never be able to stop all crazy people or criminals from obtaining guns. Blaming these mass shootings on guns is like blaming forks & spoons for obesity. The type of weapon used is irrelevant as the same death toll could be achieved by four 1860’s Colt revolvers. The legislation being introduced is just the first step to a total gun ban, as more mass shootings, whether government sponsored & staged or not, happen in order to achieve the political agenda of total citizen disarmament.


The real conversation we should be having in regards to this incident, which is relevant to every other mass shooting in the last 15 years, is what these psychotropic drugs are doing to people’s brains? Just read the side effects of these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI) like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, & Luvox. Thoughts of suicide top the list of side effects as well acreating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared. They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the s mood & behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, feeling impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive, and more depressed. These SSRI’s are just the tip of the iceberg of mind altering drugs the pharmaceutical companies & psychiatric field have armed general practitioners with. General Practitioners have little to no training in such fields and don’t spend near enough time with patients in order to determine whether prescribing these dangerous mind-altering drugs will alleviate their patient’s ailments. Remember that Doctors “PRACTICE” and when more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died in combat while most, if not all of them, were on these types of drugs, it is apparent they have No idea what they’re doing. But the politicians and the media aren’t focusing on that. They are blaming guns, Gun Owners of America, the NRA, and anyone else that supports the second amendment, all the while theses same politicians and media have concealed weapons permits, armed bodyguards, and send their kids to schools that have armed security guards. So why now, with all the financial troubles, would they attempt to pile on more attacks against our bill of rights?


The NDAA, Nation Defense Authorization Act, has taken away our rights to a jury trial, access to a lawyer, and even legalized indefinite detention without being informed of any charges against you, and Now they want your GUNS.


I have to inform you that, the Real Reason they are attempting to Disarm You is because of our Nation’s Financial Problems. While giving a speech for John Corzine’s reelection campaign as New Jersey Governor, Vice President Joe Biden referred to a conversation they had with the transition team in 2008. It was whether they needed to have “a Bank Holiday,” Joe turns, looks at John and says again, “a Bank Holiday”. Listening to the speech, ol’ Joe had NO idea the ramifications of what a Bank Holiday really meant or he wouldn’t have mentioned it in public. You could see John cringe on stage as he mentioned it. Joe later went on to say that they sought out and took John’s advice. Double down, pass a stimulus package, unlimited money printing, and additional bank bailouts. They took advice from a morally bankrupt man that would go on to steal $1.6 Billion dollars of segregated customer accounts as the head of MF Global. Otherwise Jamie Dimon at J.P. Morgan would have whacked John over the European bond shorts that went bust. These actions allowed the Obama administration to kick the ever growing can down the road, get ObamaCare passed, and further bankrupt every business, municipality, State, and the Federal Government. What is a Bank Holiday you may ask? The last one occurred from March 6-10 1933, 2 days after Roosevelt’s inauguration. This froze all bank deposits during the ‘holiday’. When the Banks reopened after the 10th, some were wiped outcompletely, some allowed only deposits to be made, some allowed withdrawals up to a certain percentage, and some reopened under normal conditions. Depositors lost millions and in today’s money would be trillions. Roosevelt’s real crime came on April 5, when he signed executive order 6102 and like a dictator without legislation, outlawed the private ownership of gold by the public. This is where the Federal Theft happened. An amnesty period was given to the public where you could turn in your gold coins and be paid $20.67 per ounce. January 20th 1934 the gold reserve act revalued gold to $35 an ounce instantly devaluing the people paper dollars by 40%. This Massive wealth confiscation allowed for the creation of the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has been manipulating all of our exchange markets including the price of gold and silver, for the benefit of the banks, ever since. There is a reason Grandma told you to keep your money under your mattress, because the old timers knew Not to trust the banks.


Fast forward to today; the FDIC is completely insolvent having only $35 Billion or so on hand to handle any crisis. The Derivative market liabilities are in the Hundreds of Trillions of Dollars just for the United States and exceed $1.5 Quadrillion world wide. Because Clinton ended Glass-Steagal in 1999 with the Financial Modernization Act, the separation between commercial banking and investment banking has been erased and large financial institutions like Bank of America and J.P Morgan have moved their derivative books to the tune of over $70 Trillion each, from their investment side to their commercial side taking advantage of lower capitol requirements and FDIC insurance. Most of the derivatives are interest rates swaps which are sold to municipalities and school boards to offset the potential rise in interest rates. The Fraud comes as these interest rate swaps are tied to the manipulated Libor (London InterBank offer rate). Because LIBOR is manipulated lower, illegally, while real interest rates rise, these municipalities and school boards are left paying the difference. There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of claims by these municipalities, school boards, and others against these banks because of this illegal manipulation.


Also interesting is that Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza, the tax director for GE Financial, and the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes’ father, Robert Holmes, lead scientist for the credit score company FICO were both set to testify in front of the Senate on the LIBOR scandal. 16 Banks have been implemented in this fraud and the potential losses would destroy them. In short the entire system is on the verge of collapse and that’s why the Government is dragging their feet with the LIBOR investigation, the CFTC’s investigation of the Silver market manipulation, now going on 4 years, and it’s why there was only a fine of $1.9 Billion Dollars levied against HSBC for Drug Money Laundering because admission of criminal wrong doing or criminal prosecution in any of these cases would send the entire system over the real fiscal cliff and $35 Billion at the FDIC isn’t going to save you.


They want your guns because if you go looking for any of your money, you’re going to find out that it has been stolen and if they print it out of thin air to give it back to you, it won’t be worth half of what it is now. China, India, and Russia to name a few are taking advantage of the current can kicking to scoop up as much Gold and Silver as they can before the system collapses. There is no Gold and Silver in size left. There is a current stand for December delivery of 20 million ounces of Silver. The Comex will default and if your holding a paper certificate that claims ownership of some metal, you better read the fine print of your contract because your about to be settled in devalued paper or left out in the cold like the MF’ed Global Customers.


They want your guns because they can’t have their Bank Holiday while you’re still armed. They can’t devalue the currency while you’re still armed. They can’t throw millions of people out of their homes while you’re still armed. They can’t confiscate farms, vehicles, and property while you’re still armed. They can’t take your IRA, 401k, and Pension while you’re still armed. And most importantly they can’t convince foreign troops from Russia, China, and DHS only knows where, to participate in this confiscation while you’re still armed. They want a Hot civil war between the civilian population and the Police & Military. There have been many years of profiling in the military and as this confiscation gets closer, those troops who would defend the Constitution and arrest those officers that give unlawful orders are going to be shipped overseas to fight another senseless war, only this time they’re going to be left there. Police Departments have been bribed with federal funds for years to militarize and brainwash their officers into vilifying, demonizing, and rejecting the bill of rights. When police officers can pull you over and Rape you on the side of the road in front of the dash camera, as happened in Texas recently, and then have those actions defended by the department, you have lost all your rights. The only thing keeping these abuses from becoming the new normal is that you’re still armed.


You have allowed yourself and your children to be radiated and molested by the TSA in order to fly. The only thing stopping them from doing it on the street is you’re still armed. Your second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, shooting sports, collection, or tradition. Any Politician that speaks of it this way has exposed him or herself as a Traitor. Your Second amendment is about protecting yourself and your family from criminals and a Tyrannical Government. When Obama can order the killing of US citizens both domestically and abroad without charge or trial, you have a tyranny. When this president signs executive orders allowing him to do or confiscate what ever he wishes in the name of an “emergency” and or “National Security” You have a tyranny. When the NSA tracks every electronic communication without warrant, You have a Tyranny. When this government threatens States to pass legislation or their funding will be cut off, You have a Tyranny. The only thing stopping them from taking all you have, including your life, is you’re still armed.


Now that we know what we are up against, what do we do about it? Now that we know that this financial system is going to be destroyed and there is no stopping it, what do we do? Now that we know that the Federal Government isn’t going to stop until we are disarmed, bankrupted, homeless, hungry, and enslaved for debt saddled on us by banks that created the debt out of thin air. Parasitic Banks that will use the Federal Government to take what We the People have spent lifetimes working for, without lifting a finger to contribute to any of it. What will we do?


Doug Haggman was on a radio show Friday the 28thof December 2012. Doug said of his FEMA source, the one thing they fear is people stop feeding the beast. They Fear us not paying our taxes, they fear us not contributing to our IRA’s and 401k’s, they fear us not paying our mortgage, they fear us not eating their genetically modified foods, and rejecting their poisonous vaccines. They fear us Not filing our taxes and Not writing this criminal Government a check in April. If that is what they Fear, then that is what we must do.


I have divided the actions you must take into 2 categories; the first is individual actions that You and ONLY YOU must do in order to peacefully fight back against this Tyranny and protect yourself from the collapse as much as possible. You must do these things immediately because we do Not have much time left. There will be more shootings or worse in order to speed the gun confiscation along because the Financial System doesn’t have much time left. Under their plan, the majority of you can’t be armed during a Bank Holiday and Dollar devaluation so we must force them into this position earlier than they’d like by causing Bank Runs. The second category is things you must educate other about, will take more time to ret results, and must only be done after the individual actions are completed.


Individual Actions


1. Tomorrow at your job, go down to your HR department or request from your employer a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your check that will go against your Tax bill in April. You want as high a number as you can for your deductions. You want as much money in your check every week as you can get. You don’t want any extra taken out and you want this form filed with the accountant immediately. Get several blank copies to give to fellow employees and let them know what you are doing and why. These withholdings are paid quarterly and won’t hit Feds immediately. The lag time in the paperwork and subsequent reduced payments to the Feds will allow you enough time to get the rest of these actions completed. You can’t do anything about the FICA Social Security Ponzi which paid out $50 Billion more then it took in this year, but you can cut out most of what you pay the Federal Reserve in interest payments on the national debt that was created out of thin air.


2. Liquidate all Paper assets at the same time, Notify your IRA and 401k holders of your intent to liquidate and cash out immediately. Take whatever penalty is assessed. Sell all Stocks, Bonds, or other securities your may have. Liquidate everything into your FDIC Bank account. What ever penalty or loss you may take is far better than being forced into long term treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash which will happen in 2013, or complete confiscation of your accounts as in MF Global, on top of a 60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Withdraw any savings, and leave only what you need to pay immediate bills in your FDIC checking account until you can transition over to a small Local Credit Union. Once all of your paper assets have been liquidated and cashed out of your FDIC Bank, you can close all your FDIC accounts. Keep only what you need to pay bills in your Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. We want the banks to limit withdrawsin cash because that will spread like wildfire and cause more Bank Runs. Once people see that they can’t get money out of the bank they will be much less likely to turn in their guns as their normalcy bias has been shattered and they no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. There will be no smooth talking fireside chat that will talk people out of getting their cash this time around. There is a legal tender law that protects the legitimacy of cash, Not checks, & Not plastic, which can be shut off at anytime. My favorite thing about cash is that it is anonymous, it doesn’t depend on electricity to function, and there is no way of tracking it. You must act early in this game because once it starts, it will escalate very, very quickly. Stop receiving your paycheck as a direct deposit if possible. You want the physical check and Cash it from the bank where it is written out from. If the fees to cash the check are high, keep a minimum account but be prepared to lose it, or laugh at them as you pay it and say “whatever helps keep you criminals solvent”. They will usually ask you if you want to open an account. I usually respond with laughter and an insolvency joke. Other customers may take notice of this and may close their accounts after some research of their own because of it. It’s worth the 6 or 7 bucks you’ll pay to cash the check. Ending direct deposit may not be possible in some cases so you may want to keep your FDIC account open for the sole purpose of having it deposited there, Withdrawn in cash, and what is needed to pay bills, deposited in your Credit Union account. The Goal is to drain the FDIC banks of physical cash and have some of that cash deposited and available at your Credit Union.


3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying a dime because the backlog of foreclosed properties is swamping the market with over 20 million homes in shadow inventory they can’t move. If they put them on the market, it would collapse all real estate values. It also costs the bank money to upkeep the house if no one is living in it. If you’re worried about your credit score, realize this. Your credit can’t be any better than the credit of the Country you live in and that’s going straight down the toilet. The Federal Reserve is printing out of thin air, the money to buy over $40 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities every month. You are Renting from a Private Bank who prints out of thin air, what you work 30 years or more for.


4. If you owe on Credit Cards, withdraw as much cash from them as possible and stop paying them. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it doesn’t exist until you swipe the card. Again it’s more money being created out of thin air and they are charging you exorbitant amounts of interest on it. One simple concept you must understand about our currency system is that all money is circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam? So don’t feel bad when you throw those bills in the trash or tell the bill collector your going to sue them for harassment and that they work for Satan, and they should get a Flu Shot, ok I went too far with that last one, but you get the point.


5. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DON’T File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ‘Freedom to Fascism’ with Aaron Russo if you doubt me. If this system is still in place for the 2013 tax season, which it shouldn’t if enough people follow this plan, and you maximized your deductions on you w-4, and you don’t qualify for the earned income tax credit, you will owe, so Don’t file, Don’t comply, and don’t worry because you have exited their banking system. This plan is about peaceful non-compliance, but as soon as their goons try to take you away, remember, that’s why you’re armed.


6. What to do with all the cash you’ve withdrawn from the system? You need to get armed if you haven’t already. At least one fire arm for every member of your household that can handle one. 3 months to a year of storable food. Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds. Look into solar panels, wind turbines, generators, alcohol as a fuel, a Diesel powered vehicle and a way to produce fuel for it. I saw a youtube video about a truck running off of a gasification system by burning dried cow manure. To put it simply, Invest in yourself. All this money you had tied up in all of these paper accounts was being used against you. If you had a 401k or IRA there is a good chance that you were invested in Monsanto, DuPont, GE, or some other company whose sole purpose was to poison you, keep you sick, and squeeze every dime it could out of you while locking up any new technology that came along, keeping you a slave to the rent seeking system that only benefits the powers that be. You will become your own doctor, You will become your own mechanic, and you will become your own farmer. Buy physical books on these subjects. The Most important thing Everyone needs to buy is Gold and Silver coins. I can’t tell you what percentage of money should be spent on preparation vs coins. If you live in or near a major city, you’ll want more coins than preps. Everyone should get armed, heirloom seeds, at least 30 days of food, water filtration, and basic camping gear backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. These should be contained in a bugout bag and you should have some idea where you’re going to go if the cities get crazy during the bank holiday. In all likelihood they will. If you are in the suburbs you’ll more than likely want to stay where you are therefore spending more on preps than coins, establishing alternative electricity, fuel, and food production will be essential. Getting as many neighbors involved in prepping will reduce the amount people running around acting crazy trying to feed themselves and their families. If you’re out in the country, go wild with your preps. Have 3 or 4 seasons of heirloom seeds, start researching alcohol as a fuel and build a still to produce it. Get solar and wind generators. The most important thing for everyone NOT to do is shoot at each other as the first means of contact. People moving from the urban areas should head to the rural areas as this is where the labor will be needed to start growing food with the limited use of tractors, pesticide and herbicides. Those of you in the rural areas, accept new people, don’t shoot first, and accept gold and silver as trade for some of your extra supplies. It would be better that the further out from a city you are, the more extra food you should have and the less silver and gold coins you’ll initially need. Getting the gold and silver coins now isn’t about a new investment; it isn’t about making money, or gaining wealth. It is about creating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared. They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the purity. Never buy larger then a 10 ounce bar in silver and a one ounce coin or bar in gold. When Buying Gold try to find the smallest denomination possible. They make 1 gram, 5 gram, 10 gram, ect.. size ingots sealed on a credit card sized plastic that are best. If you have over $10,000 to spend on coins, I would suggest 10% in gold and the rest in silver split 60% fine, 30% junk. With $100,000 I would be at 40% Gold, 50% fine silver, 10% Junk. The Idea is that if you had to pick up and leave suddenly, you want to be able to carry the majority of your metal along with other necessities with you. For instance if you’re a rich frail old man that lives in the city, you may want 90% gold, 5% Fine silver, and 5% Junk. You need at least a little of each type of silver. Remember this will act as the new currency. We must reject any foreign currency, international currency, purely digital currency, or any private bank issued currency as we now have in the Federal Reserve Note.


The Point of all of these steps is to cause Bank Runs, set up an alternative currency, become as self-sufficient as possible, cause the comex to default, catapult the real value of these metals, expose the dollar for the toilet paper that it is, and force the Government to skip the gun confiscation step and go straight to the Bank Holiday.


Are the police and military going to risk there lives for a non existent pension and payment in worthless dollars? Sure a few of the psychopaths will, but far fewer will be willing to participate if they know their pay is worthless. A personal message to the police and military; It is not enough that you don’t follow unlawful and or unconstitutional orders as outlined by OATHKEEPERS.ORG. It is your responsibility to Arrest and detain any superior giving those orders as well as any other peers who attempt to carry out those orders. If you follow unlawful or unconstitutional orders, you are no longer law enforcement officers, citizens on patrol, or any other variation of legitimate or legal title. If you execute unconstitutional and or unlawful orders, your become seditious mercenaries for Foreign Bankers engaged in TREASON in violation of your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, Your badge means nothing, your rank means nothing, your title means nothing. Do Not allow foreign ‘observers’ in your department. Do Not be Separated from your Families, The Government will use them as leverage to get you to follow these orders. Military personal, Refuse to deploy without a declaration of war by the Congress. The President cannot unilaterally send you into a foreign country without it, and foreign Wars cannot be fought if you don’t show up. Our so called leaders have lost all credibility. How many more of you must die before you collectively say enough, and go home?


The next set of things you must do and should be done in groups is to study up on the State Bank of North Dakota, and how State issued debt free notes and Modern Monetary Theory can be used to establish a functioning State and still allow for growth, commerce, and infrastructure rebuilding. Look up Bill Still’s work on YouTube, “The Secret of OZ” and “The Money Masters” for crash courses in these subjects. Get this information to your State Houses, so they can begin to think about a new monetary paradigm. They probably wont be very receptive at first but when no will buy their new bond issues and they are defaulting on old ones with tax revenues collapsing, they’ll remember you and listen.


Pen Pal Prisoners and tell them all to stop working. Stop working in the kitchen, stop working on state property, and stop working for private companies. They must understand that by working they are creating incentives for the State to create new laws, lock up more people for longer sentences, and force them to work for slave wages while killing jobs for the rest of us. The only job prisoners should embrace is picking up trash along the road because there is no way to make money by exploiting that labor. Do this and watch how many non violent offenders go free. By working they are guaranteeing a longer sentence for themselves and everyone who comes behind them. The prison industrial complex has become as big a tyranny as the military industrial complex.


The War on Drugs is a fraud considering the majority of drugs are shipped in by the government, the banking system is dependent on the drug money laundering proceeds for liquidity, the private prison system relies on slave labor to remain profitable, Prescription drugs are far more dangerous than the illegal ones, and the Justice Department and ATF ships guns to Mexican Drug Cartels “Fast and Furious” in exchange for Narcotics. These “Assault Rifles” end up at the murder scenes of multiple Boarder Patrol Agents, are responsible for thousands deaths along the boarder of Mexico including children, and they expect you to turn in your guns. Gun Confiscation is always preceded by gun registration, and Government sanctioned genocide afterward. Just ask any Cambodian, Armenian, Jew, Russian, or Chinese. The truth is, Governments with a monopoly of force are responsible for at least 264 million deaths of their own citizens over the last century. We must not allow ourselves to be next. Let the Bank Runs begin & Stop Feeding the BEAST.
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How's that?

I did read it, and it's worth going through. All I did was hit "enter" a few times...no editing...
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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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No, no, no...all your paragraphs showed up when I tried to quote you.

The info is well worth the few minutes it took to straighten it up a little.

Great post, Op...thanks!
"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
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Re: why we must reject gun confiscation & how to do it
Why We Must Reject Gun Confiscation & How To Do It

Why is the Federal Government attempting to massively restrict our gun rights now? Amidst all the problems this country has; the debt ceiling, the fiscal cliff, shrinking manufacturing, rising unemployment, depreciating home values, higher prices at the grocery store and the gas station, why would they bring up gun control now.

If you have read anything online about the Sandy Hook shooting,you’re well aware of all the holes in the official story. Adam Lanza was found with 2 pistols, then it was 4 pistols. The coroner, Wayne Carver, reported at a press conference that ALL the children were shot with “the long gun”, yet helicopter footage of the scene reveals state police pulling the bushmaster 223 “long gun” from the TRUNK of Adams car.

Then we have the camo pants guy, Christopher Mazedonia, who was arrested after running into the woods, also caught on helicopter footage. We have police scanner audio reports of multiple shooters and a teacher, Lauren Rousseau, whose car was riddled with bullets out in the parking lot. There are many more strange and conflicting facts about this incident with more coming out everyday while the police have threatened to arrest any independent journalist that strays from the official story.

My point here is that we are being lied to about what happened in order to achieve a political agenda of draconian gun control. Many potential mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens, one just 2 days after Sandy Hook in San Antonio. The answer for individual safety isn’t less guns, its more guns and more concealed weapons permits. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of “all guns are bad”.

Crazy people with guns are bad, however we will never be able to stop all crazy people or criminals from obtaining guns. Blaming these mass shootings on guns is like blaming forks & spoons for obesity.

The type of weapon used is irrelevant as the same death toll could be achieved by four 1860’s Colt revolvers. The legislation being introduced is just the first step to a total gun ban, as more mass shootings, whether government sponsored & staged or not, happen in order to achieve the political agenda of total citizen disarmament.


The real conversation we should be having in regards to this incident, which is relevant to every other mass shooting in the last 15 years, is what these psychotropic drugs are doing to people’s brains? Just read the side effects of these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI) like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, & Luvox. Thoughts of suicide top the list of side effects as well acreating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared.

They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well.

Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control.

We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them.

If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence.

Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box.

I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine.

There is added value in the s mood & behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, feeling impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive, and more depressed. These SSRI’s are just the tip of the iceberg of mind altering drugs the pharmaceutical companies & psychiatric field have armed general practitioners with. General Practitioners have little to no training in such fields and don’t spend near enough time with patients in order to determine whether prescribing these dangerous mind-altering drugs will alleviate their patient’s ailments.

Remember that Doctors “PRACTICE” and when more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died in combat while most, if not all of them, were on these types of drugs, it is apparent they have No idea what they’re doing. But the politicians and the media aren’t focusing on that. They are blaming guns, Gun Owners of America, the NRA, and anyone else that supports the second amendment, all the while theses same politicians and media have concealed weapons permits, armed bodyguards, and send their kids to schools that have armed security guards.

So why now, with all the financial troubles, would they attempt to pile on more attacks against our bill of rights?
The NDAA, Nation Defense Authorization Act, has taken away our rights to a jury trial, access to a lawyer, and even legalized indefinite detention without being informed of any charges against you, and Now they want your GUNS.


I have to inform you that, the Real Reason they are attempting to Disarm You is because of our Nation’s Financial Problems.

While giving a speech for John Corzine’s reelection campaign as New Jersey Governor, Vice President Joe Biden referred to a conversation they had with the transition team in 2008. It was whether they needed to have “a Bank Holiday,” Joe turns, looks at John and says again, “a Bank Holiday”. Listening to the speech, ol’ Joe had NO idea the ramifications of what a Bank Holiday really meant or he wouldn’t have mentioned it in public.

You could see John cringe on stage as he mentioned it. Joe later went on to say that they sought out and took John’s advice. Double down, pass a stimulus package, unlimited money printing, and additional bank bailouts. They took advice from a morally bankrupt man that would go on to steal $1.6 Billion dollars of segregated customer accounts as the head of MF Global. Otherwise Jamie Dimon at J.P. Morgan would have whacked John over the European bond shorts that went bust. These actions allowed the Obama administration to kick the ever growing can down the road, get ObamaCare passed, and further bankrupt every business, municipality, State, and the Federal Government.

What is a Bank Holiday you may ask? The last one occurred from March 6-10 1933, 2 days after Roosevelt’s inauguration. This froze all bank deposits during the ‘holiday’. When the Banks reopened after the 10th, some were wiped out completely, some allowed only deposits to be made, some allowed withdrawals up to a certain percentage, and some reopened under normal conditions.

Depositors lost millions and in today’s money would be trillions. Roosevelt’s real crime came on April 5, when he signed executive order 6102 and like a dictator without legislation, outlawed the private ownership of gold by the public. This is where the Federal Theft happened. An amnesty period was given to the public where you could turn in your gold coins and be paid $20.67 per ounce. January 20th 1934 the gold reserve act revalued gold to $35 an ounce instantly devaluing the people paper dollars by 40%.

This Massive wealth confiscation allowed for the creation of the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has been manipulating all of our exchange markets including the price of gold and silver, for the benefit of the banks, ever since. There is a reason Grandma told you to keep your money under your mattress, because the old timers knew Not to trust the banks.


Fast forward to today; the FDIC is completely insolvent having only $35 Billion or so on hand to handle any crisis. The Derivative market liabilities are in the Hundreds of Trillions of Dollars just for the United States and exceed $1.5 Quadrillion world wide. Because Clinton ended Glass-Steagal in 1999 with the Financial Modernization Act, the separation between commercial banking and investment banking has been erased and large financial institutions like Bank of America and J.P Morgan have moved their derivative books to the tune of over $70 Trillion each, from their investment side to their commercial side taking advantage of lower capitol requirements and FDIC insurance.


Most of the derivatives are interest rates swaps which are sold to municipalities and school boards to offset the potential rise in interest rates. The Fraud comes as these interest rate swaps are tied to the manipulated Libor (London InterBank offer rate). Because LIBOR is manipulated lower, illegally, while real interest rates rise, these municipalities and school boards are left paying the difference. There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of claims by these municipalities, school boards, and others against these banks because of this illegal manipulation.


Also interesting is that Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza, the tax director for GE Financial, and the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes’ father, Robert Holmes, lead scientist for the credit score company FICO were both set to testify in front of the Senate on the LIBOR scandal. 16 Banks have been implemented in this fraud and the potential losses would destroy them. In short the entire system is on the verge of collapse and that’s why the Government is dragging their feet with the LIBOR investigation, the CFTC’s investigation of the Silver market manipulation, now going on 4 years, and it’s why there was only a fine of $1.9 Billion Dollars levied against HSBC for Drug Money Laundering because admission of criminal wrong doing or criminal prosecution in any of these cases would send the entire system over the real fiscal cliff and $35 Billion at the FDIC isn’t going to save you.


They want your guns because if you go looking for any of your money, you’re going to find out that it has been stolen and if they print it out of thin air to give it back to you, it won’t be worth half of what it is now. China, India, and Russia to name a few are taking advantage of the current can kicking to scoop up as much Gold and Silver as they can before the system collapses.

There is no Gold and Silver in size left. There is a current stand for December delivery of 20 million ounces of Silver. The Comex will default and if your holding a paper certificate that claims ownership of some metal, you better read the fine print of your contract because your about to be settled in devalued paper or left out in the cold like the MF’ed Global Customers.


They want your guns because they can’t have their Bank Holiday while you’re still armed. They can’t devalue the currency while you’re still armed. They can’t throw millions of people out of their homes while you’re still armed. They can’t confiscate farms, vehicles, and property while you’re still armed. They can’t take your IRA, 401k, and Pension while you’re still armed. And most importantly they can’t convince foreign troops from Russia, China, and DHS only knows where, to participate in this confiscation while you’re still armed.

They want a Hot civil war between the civilian population and the Police & Military. There have been many years of profiling in the military and as this confiscation gets closer, those troops who would defend the Constitution and arrest those officers that give unlawful orders are going to be shipped overseas to fight another senseless war, only this time they’re going to be left there. Police Departments have been bribed with federal funds for years to militarize and brainwash their officers into vilifying, demonizing, and rejecting the bill of rights.

When police officers can pull you over and Rape you on the side of the road in front of the dash camera, as happened in Texas recently, and then have those actions defended by the department, you have lost all your rights. The only thing keeping these abuses from becoming the new normal is that you’re still armed.


You have allowed yourself and your children to be radiated and molested by the TSA in order to fly. The only thing stopping them from doing it on the street is you’re still armed. Your second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, shooting sports, collection, or tradition. Any Politician that speaks of it this way has exposed him or herself as a Traitor.

Your Second amendment is about protecting yourself and your family from criminals and a Tyrannical Government. When Obama can order the killing of US citizens both domestically and abroad without charge or trial, you have a tyranny. When this president signs executive orders allowing him to do or confiscate what ever he wishes in the name of an “emergency” and or “National Security” You have a tyranny.

When the NSA tracks every electronic communication without warrant, You have a Tyranny. When this government threatens States to pass legislation or their funding will be cut off, You have a Tyranny. The only thing stopping them from taking all you have, including your life, is you’re still armed.


Now that we know what we are up against, what do we do about it? Now that we know that this financial system is going to be destroyed and there is no stopping it, what do we do? Now that we know that the Federal Government isn’t going to stop until we are disarmed, bankrupted, homeless, hungry, and enslaved for debt saddled on us by banks that created the debt out of thin air. Parasitic Banks that will use the Federal Government to take what We the People have spent lifetimes working for, without lifting a finger to contribute to any of it. What will we do?


Doug Haggman was on a radio show Friday the 28thof December 2012. Doug said of his FEMA source, the one thing they fear is people stop feeding the beast. They Fear us not paying our taxes, they fear us not contributing to our IRA’s and 401k’s, they fear us not paying our mortgage, they fear us not eating their genetically modified foods, and rejecting their poisonous vaccines.

They fear us Not filing our taxes and Not writing this criminal Government a check in April. If that is what they Fear, then that is what we must do.


I have divided the actions you must take into 2 categories; the first is individual actions that You and ONLY YOU must do in order to peacefully fight back against this Tyranny and protect yourself from the collapse as much as possible. You must do these things immediately because we do Not have much time left. There will be more shootings or worse in order to speed the gun confiscation along because the Financial System doesn’t have much time left.

Under their plan, the majority of you can’t be armed during a Bank Holiday and Dollar devaluation so we must force them into this position earlier than they’d like by causing Bank Runs. The second category is things you must educate other about, will take more time to ret results, and must only be done after the individual actions are completed.


Individual Actions

1.
Tomorrow at your job, go down to your HR department or request from your employer a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your check that will go against your Tax bill in April. You want as high a number as you can for your deductions. You want as much money in your check every week as you can get. You don’t want any extra taken out and you want this form filed with the accountant immediately. Get several blank copies to give to fellow employees and let them know what you are doing and why.

These withholdings are paid quarterly and won’t hit Feds immediately. The lag time in the paperwork and subsequent reduced payments to the Feds will allow you enough time to get the rest of these actions completed. You can’t do anything about the FICA Social Security Ponzi which paid out $50 Billion more then it took in this year, but you can cut out most of what you pay the Federal Reserve in interest payments on the national debt that was created out of thin air.


2.
Liquidate all Paper assets at the same time, Notify your IRA and 401k holders of your intent to liquidate and cash out immediately. Take whatever penalty is assessed. Sell all Stocks, Bonds, or other securities your may have. Liquidate everything into your FDIC Bank account. What ever penalty or loss you may take is far better than being forced into long term treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash which will happen in 2013, or complete confiscation of your accounts as in MF Global, on top of a 60% currency devaluation.

Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Withdraw any savings, and leave only what you need to pay immediate bills in your FDIC checking account until you can transition over to a small Local Credit Union. Once all of your paper assets have been liquidated and cashed out of your FDIC Bank, you can close all your FDIC accounts. Keep only what you need to pay bills in your Credit Union checking account.

The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. We want the banks to limit withdrawsin cash because that will spread like wildfire and cause more Bank Runs. Once people see that they can’t get money out of the bank they will be much less likely to turn in their guns as their normalcy bias has been shattered and they no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. There will be no smooth talking fireside chat that will talk people out of getting their cash this time around. There is a legal tender law that protects the legitimacy of cash, Not checks, & Not plastic, which can be shut off at anytime.

My favorite thing about cash is that it is anonymous, it doesn’t depend on electricity to function, and there is no way of tracking it. You must act early in this game because once it starts, it will escalate very, very quickly. Stop receiving your paycheck as a direct deposit if possible.

You want the physical check and Cash it from the bank where it is written out from. If the fees to cash the check are high, keep a minimum account but be prepared to lose it, or laugh at them as you pay it and say “whatever helps keep you criminals solvent”. They will usually ask you if you want to open an account. I usually respond with laughter and an insolvency joke. Other customers may take notice of this and may close their accounts after some research of their own because of it.

It’s worth the 6 or 7 bucks you’ll pay to cash the check. Ending direct deposit may not be possible in some cases so you may want to keep your FDIC account open for the sole purpose of having it deposited there, Withdrawn in cash, and what is needed to pay bills, deposited in your Credit Union account. The Goal is to drain the FDIC banks of physical cash and have some of that cash deposited and available at your Credit Union.


3.
Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying a dime because the backlog of foreclosed properties is swamping the market with over 20 million homes in shadow inventory they can’t move. If they put them on the market, it would collapse all real estate values. It also costs the bank money to upkeep the house if no one is living in it.


If you’re worried about your credit score, realize this. Your credit can’t be any better than the credit of the Country you live in and that’s going straight down the toilet. The Federal Reserve is printing out of thin air, the money to buy over $40 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities every month. You are Renting from a Private Bank who prints out of thin air, what you work 30 years or more for.


4.
If you owe on Credit Cards, withdraw as much cash from them as possible and stop paying them. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it doesn’t exist until you swipe the card.


Again it’s more money being created out of thin air and they are charging you exorbitant amounts of interest on it. One simple concept you must understand about our currency system is that all money is circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated.

Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam? So don’t feel bad when you throw those bills in the trash or tell the bill collector your going to sue them for harassment and that they work for Satan, and they should get a Flu Shot, ok I went too far with that last one, but you get the point.


5.
If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DON’T File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ‘Freedom to Fascism’ with Aaron Russo if you doubt me. If this system is still in place for the 2013 tax season, which it shouldn’t if enough people follow this plan, and you maximized your deductions on you w-4, and you don’t qualify for the earned income tax credit, you will owe, so Don’t file, Don’t comply, and don’t worry because you have exited their banking system.

This plan is about peaceful non-compliance, but as soon as their goons try to take you away, remember, that’s why you’re armed.


6.
What to do with all the cash you’ve withdrawn from the system? You need to get armed if you haven’t already. At least one fire arm for every member of your household that can handle one. 3 months to a year of storable food. Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds.

Look into solar panels, wind turbines, generators, alcohol as a fuel, a Diesel powered vehicle and a way to produce fuel for it. I saw a youtube video about a truck running off of a gasification system by burning dried cow manure. To put it simply, Invest in yourself.


All this money you had tied up in all of these paper accounts was being used against you. If you had a 401k or IRA there is a good chance that you were invested in Monsanto, DuPont, GE, or some other company whose sole purpose was to poison you, keep you sick, and squeeze every dime it could out of you while locking up any new technology that came along, keeping you a slave to the rent seeking system that only benefits the powers that be.

You will become your own doctor, You will become your own mechanic, and you will become your own farmer. Buy physical books on these subjects.

The Most important thing Everyone needs to buy is Gold and Silver coins. I can’t tell you what percentage of money should be spent on preparation vs coins. If you live in or near a major city, you’ll want more coins than preps.

Everyone should get armed, heirloom seeds, at least 30 days of food, water filtration, and basic camping gear backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. These should be contained in a bugout bag and you should have some idea where you’re going to go if the cities get crazy during the bank holiday. In all likelihood they will.

If you are in the suburbs you’ll more than likely want to stay where you are therefore spending more on preps than coins, establishing alternative electricity, fuel, and food production will be essential. Getting as many neighbors involved in prepping will reduce the amount people running around acting crazy trying to feed themselves and their families.

If you’re out in the country, go wild with your preps. Have 3 or 4 seasons of heirloom seeds, start researching alcohol as a fuel and build a still to produce it. Get solar and wind generators. The most important thing for everyone NOT to do is shoot at each other as the first means of contact. People moving from the urban areas should head to the rural areas as this is where the labor will be needed to start growing food with the limited use of tractors, pesticide and herbicides.

Those of you in the rural areas, accept new people, don’t shoot first, and accept gold and silver as trade for some of your extra supplies. It would be better that the further out from a city you are, the more extra food you should have and the less silver and gold coins you’ll initially need. Getting the gold and silver coins now isn’t about a new investment; it isn’t about making money, or gaining wealth. It is about creating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared.

They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade.

The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight.

Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse.

Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk.

Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the purity. Never buy larger then a 10 ounce bar in silver and a one ounce coin or bar in gold. When Buying Gold try to find the smallest denomination possible. They make 1 gram, 5 gram, 10 gram, ect.. size ingots sealed on a credit card sized plastic that are best. If you have over $10,000 to spend on coins, I would suggest 10% in gold and the rest in silver split 60% fine, 30% junk. With $100,000 I would be at 40% Gold, 50% fine silver, 10% Junk.

The Idea is that if you had to pick up and leave suddenly, you want to be able to carry the majority of your metal along with other necessities with you. For instance if you’re a rich frail old man that lives in the city, you may want 90% gold, 5% Fine silver, and 5% Junk.

You need at least a little of each type of silver. Remember this will act as the new currency. We must reject any foreign currency, international currency, purely digital currency, or any private bank issued currency as we now have in the Federal Reserve Note.


The Point of all of these steps is to cause Bank Runs, set up an alternative currency, become as self-sufficient as possible, cause the comex to default, catapult the real value of these metals, expose the dollar for the toilet paper that it is, and force the Government to skip the gun confiscation step and go straight to the Bank Holiday.


Are the police and military going to risk there lives for a non existent pension and payment in worthless dollars? Sure a few of the psychopaths will, but far fewer will be willing to participate if they know their pay is worthless. A personal message to the police and military; It is not enough that you don’t follow unlawful and or unconstitutional orders as outlined by OATHKEEPERS.ORG. It is your responsibility to Arrest and detain any superior giving those orders as well as any other peers who attempt to carry out those orders. If you follow unlawful or unconstitutional orders, you are no longer law enforcement officers, citizens on patrol, or any other variation of legitimate or legal title.

If you execute unconstitutional and or unlawful orders, your become seditious mercenaries for Foreign Bankers engaged in TREASON in violation of your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, Your badge means nothing, your rank means nothing, your title means nothing. Do Not allow foreign ‘observers’ in your department. Do Not be Separated from your Families, The Government will use them as leverage to get you to follow these orders. Military personal, Refuse to deploy without a declaration of war by the Congress.

The President cannot unilaterally send you into a foreign country without it, and foreign Wars cannot be fought if you don’t show up. Our so called leaders have lost all credibility. How many more of you must die before you collectively say enough, and go home?


The next set of things you must do and should be done in groups is to study up on the State Bank of North Dakota, and how State issued debt free notes and Modern Monetary Theory can be used to establish a functioning State and still allow for growth, commerce, and infrastructure rebuilding. Look up Bill Still’s work on YouTube, “The Secret of OZ” and “The Money Masters” for crash courses in these subjects. Get this information to your State Houses, so they can begin to think about a new monetary paradigm. They probably wont be very receptive at first but when no will buy their new bond issues and they are defaulting on old ones with tax revenues collapsing, they’ll remember you and listen.


Pen Pal Prisoners and tell them all to stop working. Stop working in the kitchen, stop working on state property, and stop working for private companies. They must understand that by working they are creating incentives for the State to create new laws, lock up more people for longer sentences, and force them to work for slave wages while killing jobs for the rest of us. The only job prisoners should embrace is picking up trash along the road because there is no way to make money by exploiting that labor.

Do this and watch how many non violent offenders go free. By working they are guaranteeing a longer sentence for themselves and everyone who comes behind them. The prison industrial complex has become as big a tyranny as the military industrial complex.


The War on Drugs is a fraud considering the majority of drugs are shipped in by the government, the banking system is dependent on the drug money laundering proceeds for liquidity, the private prison system relies on slave labor to remain profitable, Prescription drugs are far more dangerous than the illegal ones, and the Justice Department and ATF ships guns to Mexican Drug Cartels “Fast and Furious” in exchange for Narcotics. These “Assault Rifles” end up at the murder scenes of multiple Boarder Patrol Agents, are responsible for thousands deaths along the boarder of Mexico including children, and they expect you to turn in your guns. Gun Confiscation is always preceded by gun registration, and Government sanctioned genocide afterward. Just ask any Cambodian, Armenian, Jew, Russian, or Chinese. The truth is, Governments with a monopoly of force are responsible for at least 264 million deaths of their own citizens over the last century. We must not allow ourselves to be next.

Let the Bank Runs begin & Stop Feeding the BEAST.
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I tried to clean it up a bit for ya

Great info but it would take some serious balls to follow thru

Hope I didn't screw it up too bad

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 12/30/2012 08:26 PM
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Re: why we must reject gun confiscation & how to do it
D317 thanks but i missed a page after side effects of ssri's, im stuck trying to transfer this from my computer to my phon to the net here is the part after ssri effects & behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, feeling impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive, and more depressed. These SSRI’s are just the tip of the iceberg of mind altering drugs the pharmaceutical companies & psychiatric field have armed general practitioners with. General Practitioners have little to no training in such fields and don’t spend near enough time with patients in order to determine whether prescribing these dangerous mind-altering drugs will alleviate their patient’s ailments. Remember that Doctors “PRACTICE” and when more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died in combat while most, if not all of them, were on these types of drugs, it is apparent they have No idea what they’re doing. But the politicians and the media aren’t focusing on that. They are blaming guns, Gun Owners of America, the NRA, and anyone else that supports the second amendment, all the while theses same politicians and media have concealed weapons permits, armed bodyguards, and send their kids to schools that have armed security guards. So why now, with all the financial troubles, would they attempt to pile on more attacks against our bill of rights?
The NDAA, Nation Defense Authorization Act, has taken away our rights to a jury trial, access to a lawyer, and even legalized indefinite detention without being informed of any charges against you, and Now they want your GUNS.
I have to inform you that, the Real Reason they are attempting to Disarm You is because of our Nation’s Financial Problems. While giving a speech for John Corzine’s reelection campaign as New Jersey Governor, Vice President Joe Biden referred to a conversation they had with the transition team in 2008. It was whether they needed to have “a Bank Holiday,” Joe turns, looks at John and says again, “a Bank Holiday”. Listening to the speech, ol’ Joe had NO idea the ramifications of what a Bank Holiday really meant or he wouldn’t have mentioned it in public. You could see John cringe on stage as he mentioned it. Joe later went on to say that they sought out and took John’s advice. Double down, pass a stimulus package, unlimited money printing, and additional bank bailouts. They took advice from a morally bankrupt man that would go on to steal $1.6 Billion dollars of segregated customer accounts as the head of MF Global. Otherwise Jamie Dimon at J.P. Morgan would have whacked John over the European bond shorts that went bust. These actions allowed the Obama administration to kick the ever growing can down the road, get ObamaCare passed, and further bankrupt every business, municipality, State, and the Federal Government. What is a Bank Holiday you may ask? The last one occurred from March 6-10 1933, 2 days after Roosevelt’s inauguration. This froze all bank deposits during the ‘holiday’. When the Banks reopened after the 10th, some were wiped outcompletely, some allowed only deposits to be made, some allowed withdrawals up to a certain percentage, and some reopened under normal conditions. Depositors lost millions and in today’s money would be trillions. Roosevelt’s real crime came on April 5, when he signed executive order 6102 and like a dictator without legislation, outlawed the private ownership of gold by the public. This is where the Federal Theft happened. An amnesty period was given to the public where you could turn in your gold coins and be paid $20.67 per ounce. January 20th 1934 the gold reserve act revalued gold to $35 an ounce instantly devaluing the people paper dollars by 40%. This Massive wealth confiscation allowed for the creation of the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has been manipulating all of our exchange markets including the price of gold and silver, for the benefit of the banks, ever since. There is a reason Grandma told you to keep your money under your mattress, because the old timers knew Not to trust the banks.
Fast forward to today; the FDIC is completely insolvent having only $35 Billion or so on hand to handle any crisis. The Derivative market liabilities are in the Hundreds of Trillions of Dollars just for the United States and exceed $1.5 Quadrillion world wide. Because Clinton ended Glass-Steagal in 1999 with the Financial Modernization Act, the separation between commercial banking and investment banking has been erased and large financial institutions like Bank of America and J.P Morgan have moved their derivative books to the tune of over $70 Trillion each, from their investment side to their commercial side taking advantage of lower capitol requirements and FDIC insurance. Most of the derivatives are interest rates swaps which are sold to municipalities and school boards to offset the potential rise in interest rates. The Fraud comes as these interest rate swaps are tied to the manipulated Libor (London InterBank offer rate). Because LIBOR is manipulated lower, illegally, while real interest rates rise, these municipalities and school boards are left paying the difference. There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of claims by these municipalities, school boards, and others against these banks because of this illegal manipulation.
Also interesting is that Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza, the tax director for GE Financial, and the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes’ father, Robert Holmes, lead scientist for the credit score company FICO were both
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A side effect of ssri is not an alternative curremcy, im lmao that tha is how it got pasted together, some of it is still hamerjacked but the important part is the individual actions part
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Before you rob the bank, what do you have to do? DISARM THE GUARDS!!

...it's what's happening and they are DESPERATE.

But , they won't make it. Established law is the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ...and we are going to enforce it.
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sorry to poo-poo your thread, but haven't you ever heard of a paragraph?.....
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You wrapped all our previous threads into one concept. Makes perfect sense to me now.

They know a financial crisis is coming.

5* OP and thanks!

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Why We Must Reject Gun Confiscation & How To Do It

Why is the Federal Government attempting to massively restrict our gun rights now? Amidst all the problems this country has; the debt ceiling, the fiscal cliff, shrinking manufacturing, rising unemployment, depreciating home values, higher prices at the grocery store and the gas station, why would they bring up gun control now.

If you have read anything online about the Sandy Hook shooting,you’re well aware of all the holes in the official story. Adam Lanza was found with 2 pistols, then it was 4 pistols. The coroner, Wayne Carver, reported at a press conference that ALL the children were shot with “the long gun”, yet helicopter footage of the scene reveals state police pulling the bushmaster 223 “long gun” from the TRUNK of Adams car.

Then we have the camo pants guy, Christopher Mazedonia, who was arrested after running into the woods, also caught on helicopter footage. We have police scanner audio reports of multiple shooters and a teacher, Lauren Rousseau, whose car was riddled with bullets out in the parking lot. There are many more strange and conflicting facts about this incident with more coming out everyday while the police have threatened to arrest any independent journalist that strays from the official story.

My point here is that we are being lied to about what happened in order to achieve a political agenda of draconian gun control. Many potential mass shootings have been stopped by armed citizens, one just 2 days after Sandy Hook in San Antonio. The answer for individual safety isn’t less guns, its more guns and more concealed weapons permits. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of “all guns are bad”.

Crazy people with guns are bad, however we will never be able to stop all crazy people or criminals from obtaining guns. Blaming these mass shootings on guns is like blaming forks & spoons for obesity.

The type of weapon used is irrelevant as the same death toll could be achieved by four 1860’s Colt revolvers. The legislation being introduced is just the first step to a total gun ban, as more mass shootings, whether government sponsored & staged or not, happen in order to achieve the political agenda of total citizen disarmament.


The real conversation we should be having in regards to this incident, which is relevant to every other mass shooting in the last 15 years, is what these psychotropic drugs are doing to people’s brains? Just read the side effects of these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI) like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, & Luvox. Thoughts of suicide top the list of side effects as well acreating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared.

They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well.

Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade. The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control.

We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight. Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them.

If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse. Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence.

Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box.

I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk. Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine.

There is added value in the s mood & behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, feeling impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive, and more depressed. These SSRI’s are just the tip of the iceberg of mind altering drugs the pharmaceutical companies & psychiatric field have armed general practitioners with. General Practitioners have little to no training in such fields and don’t spend near enough time with patients in order to determine whether prescribing these dangerous mind-altering drugs will alleviate their patient’s ailments.

Remember that Doctors “PRACTICE” and when more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died in combat while most, if not all of them, were on these types of drugs, it is apparent they have No idea what they’re doing. But the politicians and the media aren’t focusing on that. They are blaming guns, Gun Owners of America, the NRA, and anyone else that supports the second amendment, all the while theses same politicians and media have concealed weapons permits, armed bodyguards, and send their kids to schools that have armed security guards.

So why now, with all the financial troubles, would they attempt to pile on more attacks against our bill of rights?
The NDAA, Nation Defense Authorization Act, has taken away our rights to a jury trial, access to a lawyer, and even legalized indefinite detention without being informed of any charges against you, and Now they want your GUNS.


I have to inform you that, the Real Reason they are attempting to Disarm You is because of our Nation’s Financial Problems.

While giving a speech for John Corzine’s reelection campaign as New Jersey Governor, Vice President Joe Biden referred to a conversation they had with the transition team in 2008. It was whether they needed to have “a Bank Holiday,” Joe turns, looks at John and says again, “a Bank Holiday”. Listening to the speech, ol’ Joe had NO idea the ramifications of what a Bank Holiday really meant or he wouldn’t have mentioned it in public.

You could see John cringe on stage as he mentioned it. Joe later went on to say that they sought out and took John’s advice. Double down, pass a stimulus package, unlimited money printing, and additional bank bailouts. They took advice from a morally bankrupt man that would go on to steal $1.6 Billion dollars of segregated customer accounts as the head of MF Global. Otherwise Jamie Dimon at J.P. Morgan would have whacked John over the European bond shorts that went bust. These actions allowed the Obama administration to kick the ever growing can down the road, get ObamaCare passed, and further bankrupt every business, municipality, State, and the Federal Government.

What is a Bank Holiday you may ask? The last one occurred from March 6-10 1933, 2 days after Roosevelt’s inauguration. This froze all bank deposits during the ‘holiday’. When the Banks reopened after the 10th, some were wiped out completely, some allowed only deposits to be made, some allowed withdrawals up to a certain percentage, and some reopened under normal conditions.

Depositors lost millions and in today’s money would be trillions. Roosevelt’s real crime came on April 5, when he signed executive order 6102 and like a dictator without legislation, outlawed the private ownership of gold by the public. This is where the Federal Theft happened. An amnesty period was given to the public where you could turn in your gold coins and be paid $20.67 per ounce. January 20th 1934 the gold reserve act revalued gold to $35 an ounce instantly devaluing the people paper dollars by 40%.

This Massive wealth confiscation allowed for the creation of the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has been manipulating all of our exchange markets including the price of gold and silver, for the benefit of the banks, ever since. There is a reason Grandma told you to keep your money under your mattress, because the old timers knew Not to trust the banks.


Fast forward to today; the FDIC is completely insolvent having only $35 Billion or so on hand to handle any crisis. The Derivative market liabilities are in the Hundreds of Trillions of Dollars just for the United States and exceed $1.5 Quadrillion world wide. Because Clinton ended Glass-Steagal in 1999 with the Financial Modernization Act, the separation between commercial banking and investment banking has been erased and large financial institutions like Bank of America and J.P Morgan have moved their derivative books to the tune of over $70 Trillion each, from their investment side to their commercial side taking advantage of lower capitol requirements and FDIC insurance.


Most of the derivatives are interest rates swaps which are sold to municipalities and school boards to offset the potential rise in interest rates. The Fraud comes as these interest rate swaps are tied to the manipulated Libor (London InterBank offer rate). Because LIBOR is manipulated lower, illegally, while real interest rates rise, these municipalities and school boards are left paying the difference. There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of claims by these municipalities, school boards, and others against these banks because of this illegal manipulation.


Also interesting is that Adam Lanza’s father, Peter Lanza, the tax director for GE Financial, and the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes’ father, Robert Holmes, lead scientist for the credit score company FICO were both set to testify in front of the Senate on the LIBOR scandal. 16 Banks have been implemented in this fraud and the potential losses would destroy them. In short the entire system is on the verge of collapse and that’s why the Government is dragging their feet with the LIBOR investigation, the CFTC’s investigation of the Silver market manipulation, now going on 4 years, and it’s why there was only a fine of $1.9 Billion Dollars levied against HSBC for Drug Money Laundering because admission of criminal wrong doing or criminal prosecution in any of these cases would send the entire system over the real fiscal cliff and $35 Billion at the FDIC isn’t going to save you.


They want your guns because if you go looking for any of your money, you’re going to find out that it has been stolen and if they print it out of thin air to give it back to you, it won’t be worth half of what it is now. China, India, and Russia to name a few are taking advantage of the current can kicking to scoop up as much Gold and Silver as they can before the system collapses.

There is no Gold and Silver in size left. There is a current stand for December delivery of 20 million ounces of Silver. The Comex will default and if your holding a paper certificate that claims ownership of some metal, you better read the fine print of your contract because your about to be settled in devalued paper or left out in the cold like the MF’ed Global Customers.


They want your guns because they can’t have their Bank Holiday while you’re still armed. They can’t devalue the currency while you’re still armed. They can’t throw millions of people out of their homes while you’re still armed. They can’t confiscate farms, vehicles, and property while you’re still armed. They can’t take your IRA, 401k, and Pension while you’re still armed. And most importantly they can’t convince foreign troops from Russia, China, and DHS only knows where, to participate in this confiscation while you’re still armed.

They want a Hot civil war between the civilian population and the Police & Military. There have been many years of profiling in the military and as this confiscation gets closer, those troops who would defend the Constitution and arrest those officers that give unlawful orders are going to be shipped overseas to fight another senseless war, only this time they’re going to be left there. Police Departments have been bribed with federal funds for years to militarize and brainwash their officers into vilifying, demonizing, and rejecting the bill of rights.

When police officers can pull you over and Rape you on the side of the road in front of the dash camera, as happened in Texas recently, and then have those actions defended by the department, you have lost all your rights. The only thing keeping these abuses from becoming the new normal is that you’re still armed.


You have allowed yourself and your children to be radiated and molested by the TSA in order to fly. The only thing stopping them from doing it on the street is you’re still armed. Your second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, shooting sports, collection, or tradition. Any Politician that speaks of it this way has exposed him or herself as a Traitor.

Your Second amendment is about protecting yourself and your family from criminals and a Tyrannical Government. When Obama can order the killing of US citizens both domestically and abroad without charge or trial, you have a tyranny. When this president signs executive orders allowing him to do or confiscate what ever he wishes in the name of an “emergency” and or “National Security” You have a tyranny.

When the NSA tracks every electronic communication without warrant, You have a Tyranny. When this government threatens States to pass legislation or their funding will be cut off, You have a Tyranny. The only thing stopping them from taking all you have, including your life, is you’re still armed.


Now that we know what we are up against, what do we do about it? Now that we know that this financial system is going to be destroyed and there is no stopping it, what do we do? Now that we know that the Federal Government isn’t going to stop until we are disarmed, bankrupted, homeless, hungry, and enslaved for debt saddled on us by banks that created the debt out of thin air. Parasitic Banks that will use the Federal Government to take what We the People have spent lifetimes working for, without lifting a finger to contribute to any of it. What will we do?


Doug Haggman was on a radio show Friday the 28thof December 2012. Doug said of his FEMA source, the one thing they fear is people stop feeding the beast. They Fear us not paying our taxes, they fear us not contributing to our IRA’s and 401k’s, they fear us not paying our mortgage, they fear us not eating their genetically modified foods, and rejecting their poisonous vaccines.

They fear us Not filing our taxes and Not writing this criminal Government a check in April. If that is what they Fear, then that is what we must do.


I have divided the actions you must take into 2 categories; the first is individual actions that You and ONLY YOU must do in order to peacefully fight back against this Tyranny and protect yourself from the collapse as much as possible. You must do these things immediately because we do Not have much time left. There will be more shootings or worse in order to speed the gun confiscation along because the Financial System doesn’t have much time left.

Under their plan, the majority of you can’t be armed during a Bank Holiday and Dollar devaluation so we must force them into this position earlier than they’d like by causing Bank Runs. The second category is things you must educate other about, will take more time to ret results, and must only be done after the individual actions are completed.


Individual Actions

1.
Tomorrow at your job, go down to your HR department or request from your employer a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your check that will go against your Tax bill in April. You want as high a number as you can for your deductions. You want as much money in your check every week as you can get. You don’t want any extra taken out and you want this form filed with the accountant immediately. Get several blank copies to give to fellow employees and let them know what you are doing and why.

These withholdings are paid quarterly and won’t hit Feds immediately. The lag time in the paperwork and subsequent reduced payments to the Feds will allow you enough time to get the rest of these actions completed. You can’t do anything about the FICA Social Security Ponzi which paid out $50 Billion more then it took in this year, but you can cut out most of what you pay the Federal Reserve in interest payments on the national debt that was created out of thin air.


2.
Liquidate all Paper assets at the same time, Notify your IRA and 401k holders of your intent to liquidate and cash out immediately. Take whatever penalty is assessed. Sell all Stocks, Bonds, or other securities your may have. Liquidate everything into your FDIC Bank account. What ever penalty or loss you may take is far better than being forced into long term treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash which will happen in 2013, or complete confiscation of your accounts as in MF Global, on top of a 60% currency devaluation.

Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Withdraw any savings, and leave only what you need to pay immediate bills in your FDIC checking account until you can transition over to a small Local Credit Union. Once all of your paper assets have been liquidated and cashed out of your FDIC Bank, you can close all your FDIC accounts. Keep only what you need to pay bills in your Credit Union checking account.

The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. We want the banks to limit withdrawsin cash because that will spread like wildfire and cause more Bank Runs. Once people see that they can’t get money out of the bank they will be much less likely to turn in their guns as their normalcy bias has been shattered and they no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. There will be no smooth talking fireside chat that will talk people out of getting their cash this time around. There is a legal tender law that protects the legitimacy of cash, Not checks, & Not plastic, which can be shut off at anytime.

My favorite thing about cash is that it is anonymous, it doesn’t depend on electricity to function, and there is no way of tracking it. You must act early in this game because once it starts, it will escalate very, very quickly. Stop receiving your paycheck as a direct deposit if possible.

You want the physical check and Cash it from the bank where it is written out from. If the fees to cash the check are high, keep a minimum account but be prepared to lose it, or laugh at them as you pay it and say “whatever helps keep you criminals solvent”. They will usually ask you if you want to open an account. I usually respond with laughter and an insolvency joke. Other customers may take notice of this and may close their accounts after some research of their own because of it.

It’s worth the 6 or 7 bucks you’ll pay to cash the check. Ending direct deposit may not be possible in some cases so you may want to keep your FDIC account open for the sole purpose of having it deposited there, Withdrawn in cash, and what is needed to pay bills, deposited in your Credit Union account. The Goal is to drain the FDIC banks of physical cash and have some of that cash deposited and available at your Credit Union.


3.
Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying a dime because the backlog of foreclosed properties is swamping the market with over 20 million homes in shadow inventory they can’t move. If they put them on the market, it would collapse all real estate values. It also costs the bank money to upkeep the house if no one is living in it.


If you’re worried about your credit score, realize this. Your credit can’t be any better than the credit of the Country you live in and that’s going straight down the toilet. The Federal Reserve is printing out of thin air, the money to buy over $40 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities every month. You are Renting from a Private Bank who prints out of thin air, what you work 30 years or more for.


4.
If you owe on Credit Cards, withdraw as much cash from them as possible and stop paying them. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it doesn’t exist until you swipe the card.


Again it’s more money being created out of thin air and they are charging you exorbitant amounts of interest on it. One simple concept you must understand about our currency system is that all money is circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated.

Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam? So don’t feel bad when you throw those bills in the trash or tell the bill collector your going to sue them for harassment and that they work for Satan, and they should get a Flu Shot, ok I went too far with that last one, but you get the point.


5.
If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DON’T File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ‘Freedom to Fascism’ with Aaron Russo if you doubt me. If this system is still in place for the 2013 tax season, which it shouldn’t if enough people follow this plan, and you maximized your deductions on you w-4, and you don’t qualify for the earned income tax credit, you will owe, so Don’t file, Don’t comply, and don’t worry because you have exited their banking system.

This plan is about peaceful non-compliance, but as soon as their goons try to take you away, remember, that’s why you’re armed.


6.
What to do with all the cash you’ve withdrawn from the system? You need to get armed if you haven’t already. At least one fire arm for every member of your household that can handle one. 3 months to a year of storable food. Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds.

Look into solar panels, wind turbines, generators, alcohol as a fuel, a Diesel powered vehicle and a way to produce fuel for it. I saw a youtube video about a truck running off of a gasification system by burning dried cow manure. To put it simply, Invest in yourself.


All this money you had tied up in all of these paper accounts was being used against you. If you had a 401k or IRA there is a good chance that you were invested in Monsanto, DuPont, GE, or some other company whose sole purpose was to poison you, keep you sick, and squeeze every dime it could out of you while locking up any new technology that came along, keeping you a slave to the rent seeking system that only benefits the powers that be.

You will become your own doctor, You will become your own mechanic, and you will become your own farmer. Buy physical books on these subjects.

The Most important thing Everyone needs to buy is Gold and Silver coins. I can’t tell you what percentage of money should be spent on preparation vs coins. If you live in or near a major city, you’ll want more coins than preps.

Everyone should get armed, heirloom seeds, at least 30 days of food, water filtration, and basic camping gear backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. These should be contained in a bugout bag and you should have some idea where you’re going to go if the cities get crazy during the bank holiday. In all likelihood they will.

If you are in the suburbs you’ll more than likely want to stay where you are therefore spending more on preps than coins, establishing alternative electricity, fuel, and food production will be essential. Getting as many neighbors involved in prepping will reduce the amount people running around acting crazy trying to feed themselves and their families.

If you’re out in the country, go wild with your preps. Have 3 or 4 seasons of heirloom seeds, start researching alcohol as a fuel and build a still to produce it. Get solar and wind generators. The most important thing for everyone NOT to do is shoot at each other as the first means of contact. People moving from the urban areas should head to the rural areas as this is where the labor will be needed to start growing food with the limited use of tractors, pesticide and herbicides.

Those of you in the rural areas, accept new people, don’t shoot first, and accept gold and silver as trade for some of your extra supplies. It would be better that the further out from a city you are, the more extra food you should have and the less silver and gold coins you’ll initially need. Getting the gold and silver coins now isn’t about a new investment; it isn’t about making money, or gaining wealth. It is about creating an alternative currency to the Dollar, one that can’t be printed out of thin air, devalued, inflated, or digitally disappeared.

They still work if the power goes out and the only way they can be taken from you is by the barrel of a gun, which is why you should have one as well. Eventually, gold and silver coins will be accepted by everyone and even sought after as they will be used for international trade.

The reason why the US Government hates Iran so much is because they sell their oil for anything but the dollar, and are partial to payment in gold which is outside of the banking system London and New York control. We invaded Iraq because Sadam started selling oil for Euros which undermined the dollar. Having these coins may be the difference between bartering for what you need and shooting someone for what you need. This can be a peaceful transition if States step up to fill some voids which I will talk about in the next section, people have some means of bartering, and they keep their heads screwed on straight.

Our Enemy is the criminal bankers who have hijacked our government and they want us fighting with each other because it takes the focus off of them. If you feel all of these individual actions don’t apply to you because you’re so broke, you can’t afford any of these things, you don’t have a job, or whatever your situation is You must still participate. There is No excuse.

Scrape together $25 & get down to your local coin shop and buy ten pre 1965 dimes. The main point of this section is for people to get an alternative precious metal currency in their hands before the dollar collapses. This can alleviate a lot of violence. Always pay cash for your coins and that’s why I only buy from local shops. If they ask for a name give them a combo of your most hated bankers like Alen Bernake, or Larry Ruben. If your local coin shop is sold out, buy the visa gift cards with the $500 limit with cash, order online, and have delivered to a PO Box. I fully expect that if the gun confiscation is successful they will come for your gold and silver coins next because of the threat to any new currency system they impose. If you have less than $10,000 to spend on coins, I suggest buying all silver; 50% Fine Bullion & 50% pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars which are 90% silver often referred to as junk.

Do not buy Morgan or Peace silver dollars, there are too many fakes and require buying a testing kit and learning how to use it safely, which can become a hassle in a bartering situation. If you’re buying one ounce coins or bars step up to the .999 fine. There is added value in the purity. Never buy larger then a 10 ounce bar in silver and a one ounce coin or bar in gold. When Buying Gold try to find the smallest denomination possible. They make 1 gram, 5 gram, 10 gram, ect.. size ingots sealed on a credit card sized plastic that are best. If you have over $10,000 to spend on coins, I would suggest 10% in gold and the rest in silver split 60% fine, 30% junk. With $100,000 I would be at 40% Gold, 50% fine silver, 10% Junk.

The Idea is that if you had to pick up and leave suddenly, you want to be able to carry the majority of your metal along with other necessities with you. For instance if you’re a rich frail old man that lives in the city, you may want 90% gold, 5% Fine silver, and 5% Junk.

You need at least a little of each type of silver. Remember this will act as the new currency. We must reject any foreign currency, international currency, purely digital currency, or any private bank issued currency as we now have in the Federal Reserve Note.


The Point of all of these steps is to cause Bank Runs, set up an alternative currency, become as self-sufficient as possible, cause the comex to default, catapult the real value of these metals, expose the dollar for the toilet paper that it is, and force the Government to skip the gun confiscation step and go straight to the Bank Holiday.


Are the police and military going to risk there lives for a non existent pension and payment in worthless dollars? Sure a few of the psychopaths will, but far fewer will be willing to participate if they know their pay is worthless. A personal message to the police and military; It is not enough that you don’t follow unlawful and or unconstitutional orders as outlined by OATHKEEPERS.ORG. It is your responsibility to Arrest and detain any superior giving those orders as well as any other peers who attempt to carry out those orders. If you follow unlawful or unconstitutional orders, you are no longer law enforcement officers, citizens on patrol, or any other variation of legitimate or legal title.

If you execute unconstitutional and or unlawful orders, your become seditious mercenaries for Foreign Bankers engaged in TREASON in violation of your oath to protect and defend the Constitution, Your badge means nothing, your rank means nothing, your title means nothing. Do Not allow foreign ‘observers’ in your department. Do Not be Separated from your Families, The Government will use them as leverage to get you to follow these orders. Military personal, Refuse to deploy without a declaration of war by the Congress.

The President cannot unilaterally send you into a foreign country without it, and foreign Wars cannot be fought if you don’t show up. Our so called leaders have lost all credibility. How many more of you must die before you collectively say enough, and go home?


The next set of things you must do and should be done in groups is to study up on the State Bank of North Dakota, and how State issued debt free notes and Modern Monetary Theory can be used to establish a functioning State and still allow for growth, commerce, and infrastructure rebuilding. Look up Bill Still’s work on YouTube, “The Secret of OZ” and “The Money Masters” for crash courses in these subjects. Get this information to your State Houses, so they can begin to think about a new monetary paradigm. They probably wont be very receptive at first but when no will buy their new bond issues and they are defaulting on old ones with tax revenues collapsing, they’ll remember you and listen.


Pen Pal Prisoners and tell them all to stop working. Stop working in the kitchen, stop working on state property, and stop working for private companies. They must understand that by working they are creating incentives for the State to create new laws, lock up more people for longer sentences, and force them to work for slave wages while killing jobs for the rest of us. The only job prisoners should embrace is picking up trash along the road because there is no way to make money by exploiting that labor.

Do this and watch how many non violent offenders go free. By working they are guaranteeing a longer sentence for themselves and everyone who comes behind them. The prison industrial complex has become as big a tyranny as the military industrial complex.


The War on Drugs is a fraud considering the majority of drugs are shipped in by the government, the banking system is dependent on the drug money laundering proceeds for liquidity, the private prison system relies on slave labor to remain profitable, Prescription drugs are far more dangerous than the illegal ones, and the Justice Department and ATF ships guns to Mexican Drug Cartels “Fast and Furious” in exchange for Narcotics. These “Assault Rifles” end up at the murder scenes of multiple Boarder Patrol Agents, are responsible for thousands deaths along the boarder of Mexico including children, and they expect you to turn in your guns. Gun Confiscation is always preceded by gun registration, and Government sanctioned genocide afterward. Just ask any Cambodian, Armenian, Jew, Russian, or Chinese. The truth is, Governments with a monopoly of force are responsible for at least 264 million deaths of their own citizens over the last century. We must not allow ourselves to be next.

Let the Bank Runs begin & Stop Feeding the BEAST.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3180465



I tried to clean it up a bit for ya

Great info but it would take some serious balls to follow thru

Hope I didn't screw it up too bad
 Quoting: TDJ


Dayum! That's some good information. I'm going to start with changing my W 4.
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