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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16390744 United States 01/02/2013 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16390744 Hey punk are you forgetting the next part? 'The peoples right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed' Funny how the anti gun tards always leave that part out cause it goes against their argument. Oh..and a 'well regulated militia' doesn't mean slap government rules and regulations all over us.It simply means a well trained and disiplined army,which the patriots severely lacked in the early part of the revolutionary war.They were implying that a well trained and disciplined fighting force was essential to the maintainence of a free state.Back then the regular people WERE our army. thanks for focusing on the one silly post i made and for ignoring all of my other posts clearly explaining my stance on guns. :duncedunce: what a fucking tool. I'm not obligated to read everything you write. Cry me a river sweetheart :P how about just reading all of the posts in the quote box? coulda saved us both some typing. Does it matter? The picture you posted was anti gun period.Maybe in your tiny delusional world there is another meaning.Just not here on Earth.BTW can you show me where people are waving their guns around on here like it's a second penis?Cause from what I can see it's the anti gun tards that are looking for a row,and the patriots are answering back in spades |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31367486 United States 01/02/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and you know this how? sounds like you're one more trying to instill a sense of defeat and inevitability, when there is no evidence for your statement BINGO he's got scum written all over his remarks we don't need you guntard morons protecting the Constitution for us: we've got the U.S. Supreme Court, the Congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff doing that for us, thank you very much. And they have been there while you have lost almost all of your rights, fucktard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23078074 United States 01/02/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all the cowards who will not fight to protect THEIR God given rights, for those of weak mind who have bought into the Government brainwashing that we cannot win, and for those actively acting against the Supreme law of the land The US Constitution I would like to personally say...FUCK YOU. I cam across a response on another forum that states the facts far better than I ever could. I don't know him, but I do admire him and wish him well. I hope he doesn't mind if I repost his response and if he does I apologize to him in advance. So here it is and spoken like a TRUE AMERICAN; Johnny Geetar on December 30, 2012 at 12:22 AM said: I agree with the author’s insights but not his final conclusions. There WILL NOT be 100 Ruby Ridges or 100 Wacos; What WILL transpire? America will resemble 1970′s Beirut when the conflict gets into full swing. Allow me to paint a picture; Law enforcement officers will quit in droves. Those that will do the federal government’s bidding will be taking a boatload of sniper fire every single day while patrolling the streets in cruisers, and police stations will become deathtraps. Driving a police cruiser will become a death wish. Remember the Viet Cong? They would assault quickly, then melt back into the local populace and vanish like ghosts. I guess there was a bit to be learned from Giap and friends that will certainly be applicable if these idiots move forward toward confiscation, and we are 20 TIMES the size of Vietnam……. That’s an awful big shooting gallery. Communities will band together to protect against those that group together to loot and pillage,rape and murder, and they will be given NO quarter, and be shot on the spot with no police intervention, as they SHOULD be. They will become the new fertilizer for the local populace……. Many of the unprepared will die from lack of food and water. This is where not heeding the preparation warnings WILl kiil you and those in your charge. Those that own NO firearms will be the most vulnerable. Retaliation against non-compliant gun owners will be harsh. As soon as the FAMILIES of said gun owners begin to be harmed, the families of law enforcement, cooperating local military personnel and federal grade folks that come door kicking will be targeted in return. It will become a town by town and city by city bloodbath. Remember the door kickers of Hurricane Katrina? Think how BAD that would have turned out for the door kickers had everyone in Louisiana been anticipating their arrival, and were proactively pointing THOUSANDS of guns at EVERY SQUAD on EVERY street? THAT’S what a pissed off America will look like if these morons proceed…….. Those of the federal stripe that would surround a Waco, will be not only taking fire from the front, but they will be taking fire fron the flanks and rear as well. Ever hear of surrounding the surrounders? WE have the numbers; THEY don’t. They cannot possibly be everywhere at once, and occupy large swaths of geography. They simply WILL NOT HAVE the numbers. The MOMENT they become static, they become vulnerable. How many hunters with bolt action rifles do we have in this country? 1 million? Five million? 10 million? EVERY movement by government forces will be plagued by these hunters with rifles designed to bring down deer and heavy game. Virtually every roadway and highway they travel, they will be ambushed and shot at. And remember; a hunter’s bullet is considerably MORE capable of penetration and damage than a bullet fired from an AR-15 or an AK-47. To those that know, a few .308 or 7.62x54r bullets will demolish a truck engine or truck tires, especially the heavy ball ammo. This is the LARGEST sniper army in the world, and most of em are pretty damn good shots. MANY are deadly shots WAY past 500 or 600 yards. Folks will organize and unite. A people’s army WILL grow quickly. America IS NOT Thermapolaye; there are over 100 MILLION gun owners with over 350 MILLION firearms at their disposal and tens of BILLIONS of rounds on hand, so I do not share the author’s fatalism. Quite the opposite, in fact. From where I’M sitting, this is federal suicide. At MOST, what can local, state and federal governments muster to their cause nationwide; 1 million soldiers under arms? 2 million? And further, MOST in the military would back the citizenry. Not all, but most. The very weapons the government will bring to bear will be turned against THEM! These citizens are their mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, neighbors and friends. When push comes to shove, they will stand with family, community and Constitution FIRST. Think the National Guard of every state will do the fed’s bidding? I think not. And if the federal government was STUPID enough to illicit the assistance of UN troops and try to order the US military to stand down, the military will go NUTS! THAT one requires little elaboration… Let’s be clear; they risk a revolution that has EVERY chance of toppling them from power. If they do this, it is for ALL the marbles, and there is NO turning back. If they lose, they LOSE EVERYTHING. Government forces will be shot at from windows in virtually EVERY city street, firebombed and sabotaged at every turn, and be ground down slowly. The 2.2 billion rounds of hollow point ammo they’ve ordered doesn’t matter if there is no one to FIRE it. They will be left to conscripting federal office workers and building janitors to fill the ranks. Folks will fight like cornered tigers when family and community are threatened. Will the same zeal be brought to bear against US by socialists defending a mere ideology? I think not….. Ideology alone WILL NOT sustain your soul through a protracted mess like this. When push comes to shove, those that would do the federal government’s bidding will walk away in droves, JUST LIKE the New Orleans Police Department, to be with and protect their OWN families. Remember 1 other important thing; the US dollar is in dire straits right now. The government is BROKE! They can print money ALL THEY WANT after a collapse, and it will STILL be worthless. A revolution of the magnitude we speak of here WILL collapse the final integrity of the dollar. NO country with a cumulative IQ over 43 would TOUCH a US dollar if we decended into a revolution. What does the US government plan on PAYING their people with once that happens? Forgive me for writing a book here, but i’m sick of hearing how outgunned and outmanned we are as citizens when EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE! I’m tired of hearing people tell us that it is a losing battle to take on the government. BULLSHIT! What is missing is RESOLVE! Folks simply need to wrap their heads around a new reality and make their peace with the fact that they may be called upon to execute some very unpleasant things to bring America back to a Constitutional Republic. It’s time to look upon your wives, children and loved ones, and recognize the true peril this government has put them in. It’s time to get mad people. It’s time to steel your resolve. It’s time to DECIDE. Molon Labe, indeed. Only NO Thermapolaye; If you come for our guns with force, you WILL die, and your rule over America WILL die WITH you. Read more at Ammoland.com: [link to www.ammoland.com] |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 31314745 Canada 01/02/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mordier L'eft thanks for focusing on the one silly post i made and for ignoring all of my other posts clearly explaining my stance on guns. what a fucking tool. I'm not obligated to read everything you write. Cry me a river sweetheart :P how about just reading all of the posts in the quote box? coulda saved us both some typing. Does it matter? The picture you posted was anti gun period.Maybe in your tiny delusional world there is another meaning.Just not here on Earth.BTW can you show me where people are waving their guns around on here like it's a second penis?Cause from what I can see it's the anti gun tards that are looking for a row,and the patriots are answering back in spades actually it was anti-fat-dunce, not anti-gun.....take your heat outta your ass, or get your ass into that picture. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31366976 United States 01/02/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mordier L'eft *ahem* i am very familiar with the community. i am part of that community. just because i hate it when macho-men wave their guns around to compensate for their lack of penis doesn't mean i hate guns. i just don't wave them around. so, yes, i am at the fringe of that community. but belong to it i do. i simply take a different moral stance towards it than most others. my gun is to provide and it is for protection. it is not for bragging, nor to prove my worth. well i'll say this.... many of those little dick macho men are part of REAL militias. when your government turns on you (which may never happen in our lifetime) they will be your last line of defense. just remember that. you dont have to like them and plenty of them are douches but when the shit goes down they will be on your side and no one else will. REAL militias? like this one? :fatmilitia: Hey punk are you forgetting the next part? 'The peoples right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed' fine. after you turn in all of your banned weapons, the government will give you a 6 shooter revolver to protect yourself with. (no infringement there) |
Here for the moment User ID: 14554879 United States 01/02/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking long term it appears the reasonable plan is to first get the guns, then destroy the guns so they don't mysteriously make their way back to the people. Next get the soldiers' gun, destroy them once trained on the new technology weapons that are only activated for use by an encrypted digital signal. Thus, the security signal (safety) can be changed monthly, weekly, or whenever. When not green, the weapon system will not fire. Cell towers everywhere. Absolute control over who may operate the weapon be it a Tank or sidearm. To make it more clear imagine the highest of power in control of all weapons systems. Any size unit, Division down to the individual squad member with his firearm - all under digital control. This system even allows rogue Generals to be neutered very simply. This is the new reality I fear. -+ |
cmoG530 User ID: 31102269 United States 01/02/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll turn in their guns for food. That's one of the few ways, it'll happen.Last years drought. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Mark 16:16 KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Romans 8:6-9 KJV 6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Matthew 15:8-9 KJV 8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Acts 5:29 KJV Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. "The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29375106 United States 01/02/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll turn in their guns for food. That's one of the few ways, it'll happen.Last years drought. Quoting: cmoG530 Ain't no "Last Years" to it...it's a continuing drought...saw where the Mighty Mississippi may not be able to support barge shipping in the next few weeks...ie: little or NO grain shipments...you can figure the rest out. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/02/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really? Maybe you should read this if your attention span is long enough. And then explain again how it is that gunowners will turn them in. [link to reason.com] Gun Restrictions Have Always Bred Defiance, Black Markets For reasons of their own, most people, in many countries, defy anti-gun laws J.D. Tuccille | December 22, 2012 Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/02/2013 08:35 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31197155 United States 01/02/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking long term it appears the reasonable plan is to first get the guns, then destroy the guns so they don't mysteriously make their way back to the people. Next get the soldiers' gun, destroy them once trained on the new technology weapons that are only activated for use by an encrypted digital signal. Thus, the security signal (safety) can be changed monthly, weekly, or whenever. When not green, the weapon system will not fire. Cell towers everywhere. Absolute control over who may operate the weapon be it a Tank or sidearm. Quoting: Here for the moment 14554879 To make it more clear imagine the highest of power in control of all weapons systems. Any size unit, Division down to the individual squad member with his firearm - all under digital control. This system even allows rogue Generals to be neutered very simply. This is the new reality I fear. -+ Bingo. This is why, those of you in the police and military reading this, you don't want to go along with any gun confiscation. Because you are next. Watch the Terminator movies. That's predictive programming, they are laying out plans of the future they have for you. It's not a joke. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31380258 United States 01/02/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well you just run right on down to the corner and wave that " 2nd document" at the folks with this....sorry but you gonna lose. "sorry but you gonna lose" Not if he is on the "Gun rights" Side. Then who is gonna lose? Yes we know in your mind you think you are big and bad, but I'd like to see you attempt to take this from a trained military unit with your "single shot" AR Clone with .223 cal ammo.... Yeah, no one would think of using a .270 Winchester Model 70 bolt action rifle with a 10 power scope to make a head shot on the gunner from 700 yards. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145727 United States 01/02/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29375106 Well you just run right on down to the corner and wave that " 2nd document" at the folks with this....sorry but you gonna lose. "sorry but you gonna lose" Not if he is on the "Gun rights" Side. Then who is gonna lose? Yes we know in your mind you think you are big and bad, but I'd like to see you attempt to take this from a trained military unit with your "single shot" AR Clone with .223 cal ammo.... Yeah, no one would think of using a .270 Winchester Model 70 bolt action rifle with a 10 power scope to make a head shot on the gunner from 700 yards. LOL and not 1 hunter in the USA to do it... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 218496 Puerto Rico 01/02/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking long term it appears the reasonable plan is to first get the guns, then destroy the guns so they don't mysteriously make their way back to the people. Next get the soldiers' gun, destroy them once trained on the new technology weapons that are only activated for use by an encrypted digital signal. Thus, the security signal (safety) can be changed monthly, weekly, or whenever. When not green, the weapon system will not fire. Cell towers everywhere. Absolute control over who may operate the weapon be it a Tank or sidearm. Quoting: Here for the moment 14554879 To make it more clear imagine the highest of power in control of all weapons systems. Any size unit, Division down to the individual squad member with his firearm - all under digital control. This system even allows rogue Generals to be neutered very simply. This is the new reality I fear. -+ And allows the enemy to EMP they asses ... |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/02/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307060 "sorry but you gonna lose" Not if he is on the "Gun rights" Side. Then who is gonna lose? Yes we know in your mind you think you are big and bad, but I'd like to see you attempt to take this from a trained military unit with your "single shot" AR Clone with .223 cal ammo.... Yeah, no one would think of using a .270 Winchester Model 70 bolt action rifle with a 10 power scope to make a head shot on the gunner from 700 yards. LOL and not 1 hunter in the USA to do it... one of the dumber and more ignorant replies. Don't make the mistake of extrapolating your own cowardice and inability there guy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20101949 United States 01/02/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no way in hell is any firearm I own getting into the govermnets hands..any law they pass wll just make me a criminal.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9623473 well, if that's the way you feel, then it's on. And how is this any different then the thugs in chicago that have killed over 500 people last year? all in a place that have banned guns, you cannot go out side the home with one or in reality even own one.. yet 500 people died..kids icluded..at the hands of crminals. where is the news on that? why did themassive gun bans not work? why do people think they will work now? so criminals keep the guns... but my life and protection are above any law.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31366976 United States 01/02/2013 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no way in hell is any firearm I own getting into the govermnets hands..any law they pass wll just make me a criminal.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9623473 well, if that's the way you feel, then it's on. And how is this any different then the thugs in chicago that have killed over 500 people last year? all in a place that have banned guns, you cannot go out side the home with one or in reality even own one.. yet 500 people died..kids icluded..at the hands of crminals. where is the news on that? why did themassive gun bans not work? why do people think they will work now? so criminals keep the guns... but my life and protection are above any law.... mexican drug cartels in Mexico have murdered 40,000 people in the past 6 years. |