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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 15534724 Canada 01/06/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know what you are trying to do but that is not the point by what I asked here is deception I am trying to bring out in the bible and it upsets me to see so many deceived Love Check this out: [link to www.urantia.org] |
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NotAlreadyAlive User ID: 29760135 United States 01/06/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person doesn't become "aware" he or she is a son of God, they are adopted into the family of God, by grace, through faith in Jesus, that's just the way God designed it. Some accept the terms some deny the gift some make their own terms I could give a long answer, rich in detail and history, tracing the covenant principle of contractual agreements along with the theological terms of the mosaic reciprocal covenant(retribution) that was in-between the Abrahamic promise of "all nations shall be blessed by Abraham" and the fulfillment of that promise in all nations being drawn to and blessed in Jesus, but that's only if people really want to learn about it. here's a summary: Promise to Abraham from God-- "all nations will be blessed by you" Contract Agreement between God and Jews(MOSES)-- "Obey me and be Blessed, disobey and be cursed" Jews couldn't keep agreement, were guilty of breaking the law, agreement, contract. Jesus stepped in, took upon himself the penalty for the breaking of the contract, death, and offered the same forgiveness to all nations, thus fulfilling the Promise God made to Abraham to "Bless all nations through Him" Jesus was a Jew, so was able to pay the penalty for the rebellion of the Jewish/Mosaic contract. Jesus was a son of Abraham, so all nations that find freedom and Life are "blessed" through Abraham's seed, Jesus. Jesus Died to fulfill the promises He made to Abraham to bless all the nations and Jesus Died to fulfill the contractual Obligation the Jews made with God at mount Sinai(law of Moses). Christians are brought under the Law of God as being in covenant and at the same time freed from the penalty of breaking the covenant through faith in the Work Jesus did. So where does that leave all other people besides Christians? It is my own opinion that people will be Judged fairly by the God of all Creation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18016289 United States 01/06/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus had to die because what he taught would have destroyed Rome and the Jewish Priest class. AND To fulfill prophecy. Which is why he said over and over again... I do the will of he who sent me. He looked at the scripture and had to decide if he would fulfill it or not. The scripture showed him who he was and what he had to do to fulfill God's will. He chose to do God's will. Now the reason is to show that Man cannot be trusted with making judgement over another man. An innocent man died, brutally. Why? For telling YOU that you are a child of God and loved by him. For telling YOU that you are important. For telling YOU that all it takes is the smallest bit of faith, and the LORD will move mountains for you. Truth. |
JBG User ID: 15203916 United Kingdom 01/06/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christos (Sun)spirit (Sophias Aeon counterpart) - needed to enter into the physical world (the cross) in order to fulfill his role as mediator of the reconciliaton process of knitting together the scrambled aspects of Sophia. Gaia + YHWH housed in a smart monkey body = Messiah. That is why all the sin, forgiveness, redemption, salvation etc - it is 'redeeming' the dissociated scrambled, batshitcrazy archon frequencies. Recalcitrant archon frequencies (Lucifer) + human = AntiChrist. They need to be grounded into the physical in order to be finally dealt with. As we shall all soon see. |
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christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 01/06/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world.. The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father! Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26722864 Canada 01/06/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romans 6:21-23 King James Version (KJV) "What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death." "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31413327 Australia 01/06/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was prophecied God would provide himself a sacrifice It was part of God's plan of redemption Without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sin Thou way oh lord is in the santuary, where they sacrificed a perfect lamb who their ins were transferred to John the baptised said behold the lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, can you drink the same cup that christ drank from? |
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overmind User ID: 26045274 United States 01/06/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world.. Quoting: christian The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father! The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath. Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31489018 United States 01/06/2013 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world.. Quoting: christian The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father! The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath. Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it. That is why it is important to realize the deity of Christ. He was the perfect sacrifice, so that our sins are paid for BY GOD HIMSELF. If that's not love I don't know what is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17733651 United States 01/06/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world.. Quoting: christian The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father! The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath. Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it. That is why it is important to realize the deity of Christ. He was the perfect sacrifice, so that our sins are paid for BY GOD HIMSELF. If that's not love I don't know what is. And who is the payee? God himself. He paid off a debt that he himself created to himself to save us from a hell that he created for us. Not my definition of love but to each his own. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25254305 United States 01/06/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did God give the Israelites the kosher dietary laws? Why did He proclaim some animals clean and some unclean? Did He not design them? [link to theownersmanual.net] Because some meat is more toxic than others (pork for instance!) The law was not designed to be restricting, but for our health! Same as for sexual laws - to prevent the Israelites from spreading disease amongst each other. Then we move to blood which the law talks about a bunch. Blood is the means by which our body cleanses itself. It removes wastes and toxins from our body and replenishes those parts with fresh, necessary components. Same with the blood of Jesus (Yahushuwa)! It was His blood that cleansed the earth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24043207 United States 01/06/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because some men Jews were cruel and didnt want another king Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724 The gospel of the good news that man may, by faith, become spirit-conscious that he is a son of God, is not dependent on the death of Jesus. he didn't die. You were lied too. however, the rest of your statement is very nice and not understood by Christianity. |