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Why did Jesus have to die.

 
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Why did Jesus have to die.
Just because some men Jews were cruel and didnt want another king



The gospel of the good news that

man may, by faith, become spirit-conscious that he is a son of God, is not dependent on the death of Jesus.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Watch this - [link to www.youtube.com]


Also -Live4Jesus.net
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Why do you have to be a fucktard.
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Watch this - [link to www.youtube.com]


Also -Live4Jesus.net
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I know what you are trying to do but that is not the point by what I asked here is deception I am trying to bring out in the bible and it upsets me to see so many deceived

Love
Check this out:
[link to www.urantia.org]
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.

just wandering on the web
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
So we could have Easter.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
A person doesn't become "aware" he or she is a son of God, they are adopted into the family of God, by grace, through faith in Jesus, that's just the way God designed it.

Some accept the terms
some deny the gift
some make their own terms

I could give a long answer, rich in detail and history, tracing the covenant principle of contractual agreements along with the theological terms of the mosaic reciprocal covenant(retribution) that was in-between the Abrahamic promise of "all nations shall be blessed by Abraham" and the fulfillment of that promise in all nations being drawn to and blessed in Jesus, but that's only if people really want to learn about it. here's a summary:

Promise to Abraham from God
-- "all nations will be blessed by you"

Contract Agreement between God and Jews(MOSES)
-- "Obey me and be Blessed, disobey and be cursed"

Jews couldn't keep agreement, were guilty of breaking the law, agreement, contract.

Jesus stepped in, took upon himself the penalty for the breaking of the contract, death, and offered the same forgiveness to all nations, thus fulfilling the Promise God made to Abraham to "Bless all nations through Him"

Jesus was a Jew, so was able to pay the penalty for the rebellion of the Jewish/Mosaic contract.

Jesus was a son of Abraham, so all nations that find freedom and Life are "blessed" through Abraham's seed, Jesus.

Jesus Died to fulfill the promises He made to Abraham to bless all the nations and Jesus Died to fulfill the contractual Obligation the Jews made with God at mount Sinai(law of Moses).

Christians are brought under the Law of God as being in covenant and at the same time freed from the penalty of breaking the covenant through faith in the Work Jesus did.

So where does that leave all other people besides Christians?

It is my own opinion that people will be Judged fairly by the God of all Creation.
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49Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish. John 11
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Jesus had to die because what he taught would have destroyed Rome and the Jewish Priest class.

AND

To fulfill prophecy.

Which is why he said over and over again...

I do the will of he who sent me.

He looked at the scripture and had to decide if he would fulfill it or not.

The scripture showed him who he was and what he had to do to fulfill God's will.

He chose to do God's will.

Now the reason is to show that Man cannot be trusted with making judgement over another man.

An innocent man died, brutally.

Why?

For telling YOU that you are a child of God and loved by him.

For telling YOU that you are important.

For telling YOU that all it takes is the smallest bit of faith,


and the LORD will move mountains for you.




Truth.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
The Christos (Sun)spirit (Sophias Aeon counterpart) - needed to enter into the physical world (the cross) in order to fulfill his role as mediator of the reconciliaton process of knitting together the scrambled aspects of Sophia.

Gaia + YHWH housed in a smart monkey body = Messiah.

That is why all the sin, forgiveness, redemption, salvation etc - it is 'redeeming' the dissociated scrambled, batshitcrazy archon frequencies.


Recalcitrant archon frequencies (Lucifer) + human = AntiChrist.

They need to be grounded into the physical in order to be finally dealt with.


As we shall all soon see.
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He was in my way
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We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world..


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Why did Jesus have to die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724







Romans 6:21-23

King James Version (KJV)


"What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death."

"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life."

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Trust in man and the world, or trust in God.
You will have to make a definite choice.
Choose wisely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31489018


Sooner than some seem to think!

readup
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
people die.

it's what we were born for.

jesus no exception.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
To show people that there is life after death.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
It was prophecied God would provide himself a sacrifice

It was part of God's plan of redemption

Without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sin

Thou way oh lord is in the santuary, where they sacrificed a perfect lamb who their ins were transferred to

John the baptised said behold the lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, can you drink the same cup that christ drank from?
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
People are foolish enough to deny their creator because God cramps their style and they don't want to be accountable for the sin they enjoy wallowing in.

JESUS IS THE TRUTH
WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE THE DECEPTION CARRIES YOU TO YOUR DESTRUCTION.
WE ARE IN THOSE TIMES.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world..


The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father!
 Quoting: christian


The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world..


The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father!
 Quoting: christian


The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it.
 Quoting: overmind


That is why it is important to realize the deity of Christ. He was the perfect sacrifice, so that our sins are paid for BY GOD HIMSELF.
If that's not love I don't know what is.
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Jesus from the scriptures is just another human being created by CHrist who is God and one of Christ's rules is that we have to die. All our lives here are just a test to see if we remember who God is. And jesus chose to sell his soul to the devil probably due to peer pressure from all the jewish rabbis and magicians he was hanging around. Jesus comes from the bloodline of David which is a multigenerational satanic family. Jesus chose to do want his family told him so he became a freemason.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
We would be doomed forever if Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world..


The GREATEST FREE GIFT from our Heavenly Father!
 Quoting: christian


The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

Forgiveness has always been freely given. It has always been up to the individual to accept it and to walk the path of goodwill toward all, whether that is after death or before it.
 Quoting: overmind


That is why it is important to realize the deity of Christ. He was the perfect sacrifice, so that our sins are paid for BY GOD HIMSELF.
If that's not love I don't know what is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31489018


And who is the payee? God himself. He paid off a debt that he himself created to himself to save us from a hell that he created for us. Not my definition of love but to each his own.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Once you understand love includes free will and that free will opens up evil ( you do believe there is evil don't you) then you can get a hint at why God does what he does. But we are puny and can't understand gods sovereign mind.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
I thought he was alive?
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
same reason every other vegetation god had to die. to sacrifice himself to bring life to his people.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Because he challenged TPTB
Keneh
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Because he challenged TPTB
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Not only challenged but defeated
IT IS FINISHED!

The work on the cross is done. Eternity is just waiting for time to wane away
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
"If Jesus had a gun he'd be alive today."

Peter Griffin 01/06/13
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Why did God give the Israelites the kosher dietary laws? Why did He proclaim some animals clean and some unclean? Did He not design them?

[link to theownersmanual.net]

Because some meat is more toxic than others (pork for instance!) The law was not designed to be restricting, but for our health!

Same as for sexual laws - to prevent the Israelites from spreading disease amongst each other.

Then we move to blood which the law talks about a bunch. Blood is the means by which our body cleanses itself. It removes wastes and toxins from our body and replenishes those parts with fresh, necessary components.

Same with the blood of Jesus (Yahushuwa)! It was His blood that cleansed the earth.
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die.
Just because some men Jews were cruel and didnt want another king



The gospel of the good news that

man may, by faith, become spirit-conscious that he is a son of God, is not dependent on the death of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724


he didn't die. You were lied too.
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Just because some men Jews were cruel and didnt want another king



The gospel of the good news that

man may, by faith, become spirit-conscious that he is a son of God, is not dependent on the death of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724


he didn't die. You were lied too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24043207


however, the rest of your statement is very nice and not understood by Christianity.





GLP