Could this punctual "seasonal" flu be a commercial enterprize? because I fail to understand the scientific reason for its timely appearance.

and even if the weather did change from warm to cold..what would that have to do with an influenza which is viral in nature?

not the common cold which is not contagious..a viral infection..

it just doesnt make sense imo

we have accepted that every year this "influenza" or its variants..appears

but why?

it doesnt make sense to me at all

So people get vaccinated in anticipation for something which is viral yet punctual?

omg. someone who has a brain on this website? there is still hope. :)

depending on how old you are..ask the older ones if they remember when they were young that every year an influenza appeared punctually?

Ive asked around..

the answer has been...nope

hi there,did you know that a flu pandemic is 4x more likely to happen during a solar maximum year.the flu of 1918 was during a solar maximum.it would seem that the radiation from the sun causes viruses in the upper atmosphere to mutate into new strains.also we have 2 comet flybys this year,which are linked to new viruses being deposited in our atmosphere from the gasses given off by melting ice inside the comet.id say this is THE YEAR that gods judgement will visit the earth.may god help us all dear sister.

dunno bout that lol..but thanks

just that viruses are not punctual..they are spontaneous..and have nothing to do with the time of the year..

every year?

every autumn ..winter?

independent of weather?

no way..doesnt stick in my opinion

Hi..I would buy the sun and or moon affecting ..as with tides etc..

but this is every year..

people have become conditioned to accept this as something of the norm..when it has no basis..no scientific..medical basis..in my opinion..for this punctual appearance..

Ask the older generation..if it happened before

In Spain many older people get letters every year before the Autumn -Winter advising them to vaccinate against the flu..



Influenza has a timer or what?

just repeating stuff..

oh its that time of the year

huh?

Oh I dont think so...

my opinion: enough of this bs

Have pondered this question too.

and then the

oh..this is the first wave..second wave should happen later on..

excuse me? run that one by me again?

since when is a virus predictable as to when it appears..and if it will appear in a second wave?

and lets not even look at the amazing crystal ball that helps predict what strain it will have more or less..oh really?

Or am I missing something? Have I got it all wrong?

Id love someone to explain how a virus appears punctually every year..independent of climate( as it appears in warm and also in cold geographical areas)..but linked to calendar seasonal change..

and simulteanously around the globe more or less?

oh really?

Id love to understand this..

I like the way you think, OP. Great point.

What a crazy question?

*5

The flu hit our home fast and hard right after the flu shots were rolled out last October. The average temperature here was still in the 90s (texas).

I've never thought of it like that. Good question.

the flu virus is always around, but it cannot live for long on surfaces in hot weather ( summer time ) therefore the spreading of it becomes little to none, but SOMETIMES random people will catch it from another random person during the summer.

but as soon as the temperature drops to incubation like temperatures the virus no longer dies off from the heat and is spread tenfold.

I'm not saying that I agree with this article because I have no idea about this.


but according to this NY times article:



"The answer, they say, has to do with the virus itself. It is more stable and stays in the air longer when air is cold and dry, the exact conditions for much "

[link to www.nytimes.com]

And obviously they could be lying about it but unfortunately i have no way of figuring this out on my own.

Great question though...

Ya that is what the article above says also.

Yep makes sense and I guess that's how we've always been told about it. I just never think about it because I've never had a flu vaccine and the last time I had the flu was over 20 years ago.

And I do find always find it odd how people get the flu in the summer time. Then there are times when people just get nasty viruses and call it a 24 hour flu or some other such nonsense.

yes this particular rabbit hole is deep

may suggest some research into the various makers of said "shots" and the tests they did to make their so-called conclusions it goes back to pretty far

it a trillion dollar industry to be exact

The only official reason I have ever heard is it is because at this time of the year(where it is cold/winter) people are confined to indoor spaces and pass diseases to each other more frequently.

then why does it also appear at the same time in countries with warm climate?

Or in climate neutral zones like supermarkets and stores that use heat during winter and ac during summer?

If you're not in contact with people all the time and you go to the store and then the next day you're sick, you'll immediately say hmm I must have picked that up at the store.

Schools are germ cities all year round. Many children do not exactly have good hygiene (then again, neither do many adults).

Hi OP, great post, I agree with everything you said, as surely everything is a commercial enterprise, but I am also going to play devil's advocate....

This does not apply to all climates or cases of influenza...I am speaking of the influenza outbreak of 2013, where the flu has especially taken off in Boston area right now.

In the wintertime, people tend to congregate indoors more, and be in closer proximity to other people, also the air is much more humid indoors, and this may help the virus survive longer.

Like I said, this is surely a commercial enterprise, but if you've ever played the game pandemic, [link to www.crazymonkeygames.com]
you know it's all about getting just the right circumstances (of nature) that your virus can cultivate and grow in, it won't take off every time....

Hi..I live in a warm climate and there is the flu here too..periodically every year..same time more or less

people have a more or less healthy life style here..as to air and food so maybe the effects are milder than in US urban areas or elsewhere..but still..every year..punctual..it comes..

But just out of curiosity..try it..do a poll..ask the people that were around in the 50s..maybe early 60s..and earlier..ask them if every year there was a flu coming punctual Autumn /Winter..I have asked..and they put it down to people being healthier then..fact is..apparently..allegedly...this didnt happen?

so what gives?

seems things started changing around the 80s?

late 70s?

thats more or less the time frame Ive cut it down to..just my own mini poll

Earlier people worried about Tuberculosis ..Polio..things like that

But this periodical flu doesnt seem to have been around

or am I wrong?

Would like to hear your polls..