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CHICAGO POLICE CHIEF: WE'LL SHOOT LICENSED CIVILIANS WITH GUNS

 
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CHICAGO POLICE CHIEF: WE'LL SHOOT LICENSED CIVILIANS WITH GUNS
Jan. 9, 2013

Chicago’s illustrious Police Chief, Superintendent or SuperNintendo (whichever you wish to call him) got on a local radio station in Chicago and told it like he perceives it.

He said that citizens licensed to carry could be, and indeed predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers.



Like that happens in 49 other states (or 56 other states if you listen to Barack Obama).



Here’s the words from the Chicago’s Chief Street Light Asssassin, as reported by News in Black:



“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”



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How is that different than police officers are now trained, Mr. Streetlight Assassin?



Here’s what Second City Cop, a blog by and for Chicago Police Officers thought of McCarthy’s remarks:



…Rahm and McShitForBrains continue to push their belief that Illinois residents in general and Chicago denizens in particular, are completely incompetent when it comes to gun ownership. Let’s be real – how often do you think you’ll be running into an actual legally carrying citizen? Those aren’t the people that the police usually encounter. And if you aren’t treating every traffic stop as one where a gun might be on scene in any event, you’re not being the police.



And not to denigrate the Department, but we’ll bet a sizable percentage of Illinois citizens not only know guns better than the police, they can outshoot them 60-to-70% of the time, 99% of the time if we’re talking long guns.



Remember, McKillTheCitizens was documented to have been shooting out streetlights when he carried a gun in New York – is that really the sort of asshole who should be telling citizens they can’t have guns after a year of 500+ homicides, 2,500+ shootings and a January that is already 200% ahead of last years dismal showing?



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It's like they made Al Capone the Police Chief of Chicago...
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In Michigan part of the compromise to get CPL passed was that statistics would have to be kept on how many CPL holders committed a crime after getting licensed. Turns out they commit violent crimes like DV LESS often than police officers...and you know cops get away with it far more often. Cops are the worst criminals.
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He acts as if People wont shoot back.

I take it they are in this for the suicide mission.
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civil war here we go.........
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Sounds like a threat from a terrorist, not someone that is paid to uphold the law and sworn to protect citizens ...
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Do the newer Harleys still rattle apart like the old ones?

So the Chicago Police are going to start shooting drivers?
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newer Harleys are geared for types that can't change their own oil and have to take it to the dealership....lol

Chimpcongo cops aren't shooting drivers yet but are wary of concealed carry licensed folks (like a gangbanger is going to be legal)
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please explain how is this any different from enraged patriot as per the first amendment.
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Sounds like a threat from a terrorist, not someone that is paid to uphold the law and sworn to protect citizens ...
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yup!
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newer Harleys are geared for types that can't change their own oil and have to take it to the dealership....lol

Chimpcongo cops aren't shooting drivers yet but are wary of concealed carry licensed folks (like a gangbanger is going to be legal)
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Well if you are going to use LocTight make sure it is the Red type and not the Green. Love the sound of an Ol PanHead.

How many of the recent shootings in Chicago have been with licensed Gun Holders? 0 right?
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“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster.
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Well first of all, the fact that these people own a gun that belongs to them in the first place makes them better trained than a large portion of your police force, whose gun was handed to them by you.

So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”
 Quoting: Panhead


Actually, yes, they do have an obligation to wait before firing their weapon. Why? Because they are police officers. They are keepers of the peace. Their purpose is to protect and serve. Don't like the fact that you might get shot? Don't be a cop, because you don't deserve a badge.

In the course of your work you will need to safely subdue the mentally ill, highly distraught, and temporarily insane. That is your job. You are not a killer, you are not an executioner. That gun on your belt is for the protection of the lives of others. Not yours.
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Well I hope they are prepared to be shot back??
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As much as it pains me to say so, I agree with the statement that police will shoot if "somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer." Something they're already doing, I'm sure.

That said, however, it is also true that MOST "lawful gun owners" WOULD NOT BE TURNING THAT GUN ON A POLICE OFFICER.

Therefore I'm inclined to come to the conclusion that his statement is deliberately inflamatory and incendiary, and meant to demonize LEGAL gun owners.
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newer Harleys are geared for types that can't change their own oil and have to take it to the dealership....lol

Chimpcongo cops aren't shooting drivers yet but are wary of concealed carry licensed folks (like a gangbanger is going to be legal)
 Quoting: Panhead


Well if you are going to use LocTight make sure it is the Red type and not the Green. Love the sound of an Ol PanHead.

How many of the recent shootings in Chicago have been with licensed Gun Holders? 0 right?
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gotta love the old panheads..nothing sounds the same.....made the mistake with the green loctight before.....

As far as shootings....none that I'm aware of by CCW holders.
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Jan. 9, 2013

Chicago’s illustrious Police Chief, Superintendent or SuperNintendo (whichever you wish to call him) got on a local radio station in Chicago and told it like he perceives it.

He said that citizens licensed to carry could be, and indeed predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers.



Like that happens in 49 other states (or 56 other states if you listen to Barack Obama).



Here’s the words from the Chicago’s Chief Street Light Asssassin, as reported by News in Black:



“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”



[Click to view image: 'aa73cee26b4c-mcpoopforbrains.jpg']



How is that different than police officers are now trained, Mr. Streetlight Assassin?



Here’s what Second City Cop, a blog by and for Chicago Police Officers thought of McCarthy’s remarks:



…Rahm and McShitForBrains continue to push their belief that Illinois residents in general and Chicago denizens in particular, are completely incompetent when it comes to gun ownership. Let’s be real – how often do you think you’ll be running into an actual legally carrying citizen? Those aren’t the people that the police usually encounter. And if you aren’t treating every traffic stop as one where a gun might be on scene in any event, you’re not being the police.



And not to denigrate the Department, but we’ll bet a sizable percentage of Illinois citizens not only know guns better than the police, they can outshoot them 60-to-70% of the time, 99% of the time if we’re talking long guns.



Remember, McKillTheCitizens was documented to have been shooting out streetlights when he carried a gun in New York – is that really the sort of asshole who should be telling citizens they can’t have guns after a year of 500+ homicides, 2,500+ shootings and a January that is already 200% ahead of last years dismal showing?



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As much as it pains me to say so, I agree with the statement that police will shoot if "somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer." Something they're already doing, I'm sure.

That said, however, it is also true that MOST "lawful gun owners" WOULD NOT BE TURNING THAT GUN ON A POLICE OFFICER.

Therefore I'm inclined to come to the conclusion that his statement is deliberately inflamatory and incendiary, and meant to demonize LEGAL gun owners.
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big difference in having a handgun in hand and pointing a handgun at someone.....
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Fort Apache... the Bronx, Boston, Chicago, Miami, L,A. etc. etc etc.

Outnumbered 100 to 1 on a good day.

Lots of bravado, little reality.
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Fort Apache... the Bronx, Boston, Chicago, Miami, L,A. etc. etc etc.

Outnumbered 100 to 1 on a good day.

Lots of bravado, little reality.
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sadly many cops now have the wrong mentality....no longer
"to Protect and Serve" more like "Harass and Intimidate"
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All he is saying is that if you point your weapon at an officer they don't have to wait to see if you are going to shoot...just like they don't have to let a dog chew on them...it makes sense as I follow the same rules myself. If you raise a gun at me or your dog runs at me with teeth showing, boom.
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“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster.
 Quoting: Panhead


Well first of all, the fact that these people own a gun that belongs to them in the first place makes them better trained than a large portion of your police force, whose gun was handed to them by you.

So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”
 Quoting: Panhead


Actually, yes, they do have an obligation to wait before firing their weapon. Why? Because they are police officers. They are keepers of the peace. Their purpose is to protect and serve. Don't like the fact that you might get shot? Don't be a cop, because you don't deserve a badge.

In the course of your work you will need to safely subdue the mentally ill, highly distraught, and temporarily insane. That is your job. You are not a killer, you are not an executioner. That gun on your belt is for the protection of the lives of others. Not yours.
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Didn't some redneck (citizen) just have his license revoked for basically saying the same thing?

Spend a night watching police brutality videos on YouTube and then ask if a viable threat to the people exists.
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I already carry concealed in Illinois. People don't realize there's been a loophole for yrlears.
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if someone points a gun at me, they get shot. i'm not waiting for them to shoot me either.
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It's not the licensed civilians you have to you worry about there chief.
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Du bist Fucked.

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All he is saying is that if you point your weapon at an officer they don't have to wait to see if you are going to shoot...just like they don't have to let a dog chew on them...it makes sense as I follow the same rules myself. If you raise a gun at me or your dog runs at me with teeth showing, boom.
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All he is saying is that if you point your weapon at an officer they don't have to wait to see if you are going to shoot...just like they don't have to let a dog chew on them...it makes sense as I follow the same rules myself. If you raise a gun at me or your dog runs at me with teeth showing, boom.
 Quoting: BRIEF


He never said that. He stated, "turns around with a firearm." He said nothing about raising towards an officer.

Then he went on to say, "dont have to wait to get shot to RETURN fire."

Implying then person that turned around just fired the weapon. He then goes on to say, "there will be tragedies because of this."

If there is a tragedy, it is due to the fact they just shot someone who defended themselves.

There would be no tragedy if the cops shoot a bad guy with a gun.

Oh, before you go off about I dont know what the f@#$ I am talking about, I resigned from one of the largest PDs and it was in Texas. They actually teach what is a real threat and just holding a firearm is NOT a threat.
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