Who Must pay Child support Back to a father of a Child after DNA test show he isn't the father? | |
SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Underdog User ID: 5403109 United States 01/13/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard about a case related to this issue. No one will pay him back. That would make too much sense. Once he accepted that the child was his and started paying support, he accepted the risk that he would one day be out all that money. I would think, however, that if he has a relationship with the child, he would have the right to continue that relationship. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. |
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SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. |
Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 01/13/2013 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? Has the real father been located Yet? Does he have any money? Your friend does need to talk to an attorney to see what options he has. He can call one out of the yellow pages that offers a free telephone consultation if he is short on funds at the moment. "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? Has the real father been located Yet? Does he have any money? Your friend does need to talk to an attorney to see what options he has. He can call one out of the yellow pages that offers a free telephone consultation if he is short on funds at the moment. I agree ; Im sure there must be some ramification in the law for these things. Either way we as a race of peoples must start hold these women's feet to the fire of truth .Its starting to get out of hand. They are not goddess's as they believe. Yes the real father was located and had dna testing. Last Edited by <x> on 01/13/2013 09:44 PM |
samanthasunflower User ID: 29507233 United States 01/13/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your friend needs to be careful. He doesn't have the right to see the child, but he may still have to pay child support. There are plenty of men with DNA tests proving they aren't the father who have to pay child support every month. If he still wants to be part of the child's life, he should get a lawyer. In some states, he would still have rights to visitation because he's been a parent to the child for 3 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25865505 United States 01/13/2013 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? Neither, he's out the money... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30079403 United States 01/13/2013 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard about a case related to this issue. No one will pay him back. That would make too much sense. Once he accepted that the child was his and started paying support, he accepted the risk that he would one day be out all that money. I would think, however, that if he has a relationship with the child, he would have the right to continue that relationship. Quoting: Underdog 5403109 Unless your freind is very lucky, this is pretty much how it will go. Once there's complications, the government conveniently backs out of any involvement in the case, usually after making things worse. Somewhat related : After a court finding in my favor that DSS had overcharged me in child support with allegations that I hadn't paid at all.(KEEP ALL YOUR PROOF OF PAYMENT) DSS conveniently informed me that to recoup my losses, I would have to bring a civil case against the recipient, even though they're the ones who lied in court. After causing this grief...they just slither back into the shadows and take no responsibility for their errors. How convenient to be able to shit on someone's life and not have to clean it up....ASSHOLES. |
SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. The state civil courts is there to protect people from civil injustice like manipulation . Not to play on it for monetary means of another. It has nothing to do with taking responsibility. The child support courts are the biggest civil fraud around.All courts must protect everyone involved " aka equal protection " Otherwise its not a legitimate court. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2112226 United States 01/13/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25865505 United States 01/13/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard about a case related to this issue. No one will pay him back. That would make too much sense. Once he accepted that the child was his and started paying support, he accepted the risk that he would one day be out all that money. I would think, however, that if he has a relationship with the child, he would have the right to continue that relationship. Quoting: Underdog 5403109 Unless your freind is very lucky, this is pretty much how it will go. Once there's complications, the government conveniently backs out of any involvement in the case, usually after making things worse. Somewhat related : After a court finding in my favor that DSS had overcharged me in child support with allegations that I hadn't paid at all.(KEEP ALL YOUR PROOF OF PAYMENT) DSS conveniently informed me that to recoup my losses, I would have to bring a civil case against the recipient, even though they're the ones who lied in court. After causing this grief...they just slither back into the shadows and take no responsibility for their errors. How convenient to be able to shit on someone's life and not have to clean it up....ASSHOLES. Their only purpose is to make interest off the money on the turn around time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your friend needs to be careful. He doesn't have the right to see the child, but he may still have to pay child support. There are plenty of men with DNA tests proving they aren't the father who have to pay child support every month. Quoting: samanthasunflower If he still wants to be part of the child's life, he should get a lawyer. In some states, he would still have rights to visitation because he's been a parent to the child for 3 years. You are so right.Because he agreed he may still be responsible to pay even with DNA showing he isnt the natural father.I know a man that is paying after divorcing his wife.He caught her cheating then suspected their child may not be his.Turns out it wasnt but they were married when the child was born and he has been the father to the child so the state said it was to remain that way.He was the legal father and would pay child support. There are some screwed up rules when it comes to child support.His best bet is to cough it up as a loss and let it be or risk continuing to pay. There have been some very powerful opinions on threads on this site when it comes to the ways men can be done in regard to child support. |
SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have miranda rights for criminal courts etc. But in these civil child support madhouse's. They do not tell people any rights. Matter of fact The state themselves push most individual emotionally to sign paperwork. They are truly a jester of a court. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32151618 United Kingdom 01/13/2013 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. remember to get a dna test next time you or your wife get pregnant.. just to be sure! |
SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He claimed the child and paid because he is a brain dead retard who deserves to lose that money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2112226 Unfortunately he probably won't learn anything from it because he is too stupid. So you don't believe in the equal protection clause of the constitution? I hope you aren't a second amendment advocate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32111171 No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. remember to get a dna test next time you or your wife get pregnant.. just to be sure! Read a news story some time a that said a large percentage of married men are raising at least one child that isnt really theirs without a clue.Wife has little fling but still messing around with hubby,gets pregnant and of course its his. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32151618 United Kingdom 01/13/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SmellslikeDrama Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. remember to get a dna test next time you or your wife get pregnant.. just to be sure! Read a news story some time a that said a large percentage of married men are raising at least one child that isnt really theirs without a clue.Wife has little fling but still messing around with hubby,gets pregnant and of course its his. so if you find out your child is not yours or your partners, is that considered fraud? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30079403 United States 01/13/2013 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would sue the real father, you cant get anything from the mother because it technically went to the kid Quoting: Keneh since money is contract and contract requires consent and a minor cannot give consent, technically a minor should not receive moneys. The monies are 'supposedly' administered in the best interest of the child by the custodial parent or legal guardian. Presumably an adult. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32111171 totally wrong... If he is old enough to father a child then he should know enough to request a DNA test before he takes responsibility of a child.No one forced him to sign so why is anyone responsible other than himself. A lot of people are manipulative in a lot of ways and cause others to lose money but no one jumps in and pays them back. I was manipulated in an investment but it was my choice to invest and no one paid me back for what I lost. remember to get a dna test next time you or your wife get pregnant.. just to be sure! Read a news story some time a that said a large percentage of married men are raising at least one child that isnt really theirs without a clue.Wife has little fling but still messing around with hubby,gets pregnant and of course its his. so if you find out your child is not yours or your partners, is that considered fraud? Personally I would see it as fraud but I doubt the court would side with that.Usually they do what they consider is best interest of the child.So in most cases he is still dad so he pays up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32151618 United Kingdom 01/13/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would sue the real father, you cant get anything from the mother because it technically went to the kid Quoting: Keneh since money is contract and contract requires consent and a minor cannot give consent, technically a minor should not receive moneys. The monies are 'supposedly' administered in the best interest of the child by the custodial parent or legal guardian. Presumably an adult. no its to cover the cost of the child incurred by the resident parent. its not for the child its for the adult. whatever the adult needs to spend the money on to give that child a certain level of welfare. |
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SmellslikeDrama (OP) User ID: 1267719 United States 01/13/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would sue the real father, you cant get anything from the mother because it technically went to the kid Quoting: Keneh since money is contract and contract requires consent and a minor cannot give consent, technically a minor should not receive moneys. The monies are 'supposedly' administered in the best interest of the child by the custodial parent or legal guardian. Presumably an adult. Thus the legal guardian should be held responsible for payments , if she chooses to break the contract between her and supposed father. Last Edited by <x> on 01/13/2013 10:27 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24394728 Austria 01/13/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Friend of mine has been paying child support for a child he claimed without a DNA test. Quoting: SmellslikeDrama The state ok'ed it , now the mother of the child elected to find the real father. The state said he dont have right to the child now that the DNA test shows he is not the real father. He has been paying child support, so who must pay the money back to him ? The mother or real father? No one will pay him back because he accepted the responsibility without a DNA test.Since he claimed the child voluntarily why would anyone owe him anything. No one should accept that responsibility without asking for a DNA test regardless of what anyone leads the person to believe..He should have ask for the test before he ever begin paying. Because women are manipulative. I personally believe he is owed the money. The state is the one that should never allow it. Nobody owes him anything. He made a stupid and naive decision and paid for it. The woman involved is still a rotten whore though and he should punch the living daylights out of her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32111171 United States 01/13/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would sue the real father, you cant get anything from the mother because it technically went to the kid Quoting: Keneh since money is contract and contract requires consent and a minor cannot give consent, technically a minor should not receive moneys. The monies are 'supposedly' administered in the best interest of the child by the custodial parent or legal guardian. Presumably an adult. Thus the legal guardian should be held responsible for payments , if she choices to break the contract between her and supposed father. I wish you luck but its not likely going to work that way.Even a good possibility he will have to continue support until the child reaches 18 since he willingly signed to be the father REGARDLESS of the reason. The natural dad wont be held responsible because he wasnt aware of the situation and someone else stepped in and took his place in the childs life.Very complicated rules when it comes to child support that varies greatly by state. |