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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25019064 United States 01/18/2013 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, your not the only one reading it. Everyday more and more people become wise to whats happening in the world. If your in danger, we're ALL in danger. There are things you can use to protect yourself, and your privacy. Look into TOR and Proxies if your really concerned. But, your privacy online has been long since violated. Remember the internet was invented by the NSA. Inherently in the system there are holes built into it. My suggestion is it's far better to stay alert to whats going on, than to bury your head in the sand and pretend like it's not happening. Cheers, |
jlowen (OP) User ID: 32048043 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, I didn't mean to come across self-obsessed, just concerned for the future of our kids....I will look into the things you mentioned (haven't a clue what they are), thanks for your support. Safety in numbers etc, etc. Any advice on how to broach these theories with family or friends....my husband thinks I'm losing the plot or getting heavy? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32451248 Australia 01/18/2013 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, I didn't mean to come across self-obsessed, just concerned for the future of our kids....I will look into the things you mentioned (haven't a clue what they are), thanks for your support. Safety in numbers etc, etc. Quoting: jlowen Any advice on how to broach these theories with family or friends....my husband thinks I'm losing the plot or getting heavy? The general advice is to keep schtum about it, they don't get it until they get it and they'll think you're crazy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 01/18/2013 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try and take a step back and think about the countless numbers of individuals who are reading the same information and exploring the same subject matters and all the different websites, books, videos, and mediums that are out there discussing various topics and attempting to spread awareness. When you look at the scope and magnitude of what's going on you will begin to understand that there is nothing inherently unique or special about your individual circumstances that should warrant your concern about exploring these subjects. I would argue that it is natural to experience temporary feelings of anxiety/paranoia when you are going through the process of raising your awareness and exploring the greater nature of this 'reality'. Just a little shock to your system and your previous understanding of how things are. Once it settles in and you adjust and restore some balance you will feel better. Countless other people have experienced and been through what you are reporting so don't feel isolated or alone. I do agree with you that too much of anything can be detrimental so if you find yourself getting too worked up it would definitely be wise to take breaks and divert your focus/attention to other matters. Try and find a healthy BALANCE. :greenkarma: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 01/18/2013 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, I didn't mean to come across self-obsessed, just concerned for the future of our kids....I will look into the things you mentioned (haven't a clue what they are), thanks for your support. Safety in numbers etc, etc. Quoting: jlowen Any advice on how to broach these theories with family or friends....my husband thinks I'm losing the plot or getting heavy? Most people are not mentally prepared to hear or discuss many of the subject matters you find on sites like this. Too much information can really rattle their nerves and put them into a defensive position or in denial so you really have to exercise caution & discernment with regards to how you communicate with people. Best to find someone you can speak with that you know that is open-minded and will not judge you or react negatively for you speaking your mind & sharing ideas. |
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CtYankee User ID: 30129105 United States 01/18/2013 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been lurking on this site for a few months, trying to work out how I feel about what I THOUGHT I knew. Now I feel compelled to sign up and join in. Many, many threads I've read on here make sense to me, government corruption, global debt, Sandy Hook, powerful people leading the sheep etc..... I no longer watch television, and I've banned my kids from watching Disney channels, (over-reacting, maybe?) I get news from here then confirm what I've heard with mainstream media BBC or Sky. Paranoia levels are high, am I putting my family in danger by just reading stuff on the web? Quoting: jlowen I decided to have a break from conspiracy stuff, charged my kindle to escape in to a "book" and something I saw gave me chills. When a site I use suggests recommendations to read, buy or watch, I used to think "how considerate, making personalised suggestions just for me", now it seems so much more sinister.....I realise that some computer somewhere knows what I like to read, eat, how old my kids are, how many pets I have, what I drive, what my husband does for a living.....I'll be honest, I'm very scared and I don't know what's real and what's not. Unfortunately my gut instinct tells me we live in a very corrupt society and the people in charge are NOT looking after our best interests and the future of our children but I don't know what to do about it. Sorry about my lengthy post, but it's been a long time coming! And now I'm reluctant to post.....paranoid again... CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31605404 United States 01/18/2013 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, I didn't mean to come across self-obsessed, just concerned for the future of our kids....I will look into the things you mentioned (haven't a clue what they are), thanks for your support. Safety in numbers etc, etc. Quoting: jlowen Any advice on how to broach these theories with family or friends....my husband thinks I'm losing the plot or getting heavy? Go quietly about prepping for your family' needs.(foods, meds, etc) If hubby doesnt already get it with everything going on, odds are he won't get it even when you talk to him. Most people will only get it when it actually happens. Then he will thank you for preparing somewhat for his family. |
jlowen (OP) User ID: 32048043 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the popular social websites "sell" your information, then they also know your IP,then they associate proper advertistement for specific IPs, thats how they work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32502796 I have a facebook account, I never use it, (actually I recently put up the sandy hook hoax vid, seems most people are more likely to read what everyones having for breakfast than read important info) I never put pictures of my family on it, I've always had the view that its quite sinister being able to access all sorts of information about other people. I don't know anything about the other social sites, and thats how I'm going to keep it. |
Space Mantis User ID: 32498531 New Zealand 01/18/2013 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of the popular social websites "sell" your information, then they also know your IP,then they associate proper advertistement for specific IPs, thats how they work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32502796 I have a facebook account, I never use it, (actually I recently put up the sandy hook hoax vid, seems most people are more likely to read what everyones having for breakfast than read important info) I never put pictures of my family on it, I've always had the view that its quite sinister being able to access all sorts of information about other people. I don't know anything about the other social sites, and thats how I'm going to keep it. Your family is lucky they have one person "awake", I guess the most you could do is as said above just prepare for you and your family. I give up. |
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jlowen (OP) User ID: 32048043 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try and take a step back and think about the countless numbers of individuals who are reading the same information and exploring the same subject matters and all the different websites, books, videos, and mediums that are out there discussing various topics and attempting to spread awareness. When you look at the scope and magnitude of what's going on you will begin to understand that there is nothing inherently unique or special about your individual circumstances that should warrant your concern about exploring these subjects. Quoting: ANHEDONIC I would argue that it is natural to experience temporary feelings of anxiety/paranoia when you are going through the process of raising your awareness and exploring the greater nature of this 'reality'. Just a little shock to your system and your previous understanding of how things are. Once it settles in and you adjust and restore some balance you will feel better. Countless other people have experienced and been through what you are reporting so don't feel isolated or alone. I do agree with you that too much of anything can be detrimental so if you find yourself getting too worked up it would definitely be wise to take breaks and divert your focus/attention to other matters. Try and find a healthy BALANCE. Your post has given me a lot to mull over, and it's very much appreciated. I've always been slightly kooky, a bit alternative. For quite a few years we've used herbal remedies in our house, make my own soap, no unnecessary chemicals etc, my opinion of 9/11 amongst others things and my awakening has been trickling through little by little, but now a bucket of ice cold water has been dumped on my head and I think you're right...I'm in shock |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 01/18/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your post has given me a lot to mull over, and it's very much appreciated. I've always been slightly kooky, a bit alternative. For quite a few years we've used herbal remedies in our house, make my own soap, no unnecessary chemicals etc, my opinion of 9/11 amongst others things and my awakening has been trickling through little by little, but now a bucket of ice cold water has been dumped on my head and I think you're right...I'm in shock Quoting: jlowen No problem. Just give it some time to sink in and you will rebound accordingly. |
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WeAreOne User ID: 32209771 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Enlightenment is a destructive process. It has nothing to do with becoming better or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It's seeing through the facade of pretence. It's the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true.” Adyashanti Be the change you want the World to be. Be |
completejigsaw User ID: 16524655 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EVERYTHING HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS The SOLUTION has already been sorted trust in 'HIM' and 'YOURSELF' and open you eyes to the new reality. EVERYTHING BEFORE WAS JUST AN ILLUSION Smile and be HAPPY and show LOVE |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32027531 United States 01/18/2013 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most important thing to do is trust yourself. Trust your intuition. Question just about every major "news story" that you hear on the MSM (main stream media). A majority of it is laundered and skewed to fit a certain agenda. I woke up about 4 years ago. I stumbled across a few videos that made too much sense to me to ignore. So I kept digging and researching and looking into stories that seemed "fishy". I found too many holes and asked too many questions that the journalists covering the stories should have been asking, but weren't. Such as, where are the surveillance videos of the Sandy Hook massacre? They just invested in a brand new security system at the school. Cameras in every hallway and in every major classroom. Surely there must be something. After all, wouldn't they flaunt their "bad guy" all over the press? Wouldn't they play the tape over and over and over, saying "this is the bad guy. See his gun? See his evil?" But no. No video. Why? Because there was at least one more guy with him. Explain who was captured in the woods on the helicopter video. Explain who the cops had handcuffed on the floor when they arrived. They wouldn't slap the cuffs on a dead guy, so it wasn't Lanza. Where are there two men? Did the FBI show up and tell the local cops that "we got it from here" and then let the guys go? (probably) When the local cops got on the scene, they said that they found the shooter with 2 pistols on his body. A SIG Saur 9mm and a Glock 9mm. Two pistols. So why is everybody saying that it was an assault rifle? They pulled the assault rifle out of the trunk of the car. It was never used. Right? But then why did the coroner say that it was the primary weapon? And if it was, why are bullets being found lodged in the bodies and not in the walls? A .223 caliber bullet would go straight through a little kid (sorry to sound so crude) and probably through the next kid and then into a wall. They're not 9mm. COuld this explain why parents were not allowed to go into the school to see their child's body? Forensic "clean up"? What more did the forensic guy need to do that took 3 days? They found the guy, dead. And the guns. And the bodies. End of story, right? Why couldn't the parents go inside? What was going on in there for so long? Why isn't the media doing their job and asking these questions? Because they're all puppets, too. They've got a hand up their ass telling them what to say. The local journalists are probably still good, because they have big dreams of the big story breaking and their fame for being the first to report it. But then their editor tells them to stop sniffing around. Becuase their editors boss calls them up and tells him that his local station needs to stop sniffing around. Or else. Know this: Everything you are allowed to see on the television is part of the system. It's part of the theater. The propaganda. The lies. The deceit. The internet is the last place for people to get real news. |
in5d User ID: 26897578 United States 01/18/2013 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try and take a step back and think about the countless numbers of individuals who are reading the same information and exploring the same subject matters and all the different websites, books, videos, and mediums that are out there discussing various topics and attempting to spread awareness. When you look at the scope and magnitude of what's going on you will begin to understand that there is nothing inherently unique or special about your individual circumstances that should warrant your concern about exploring these subjects. Quoting: ANHEDONIC I would argue that it is natural to experience temporary feelings of anxiety/paranoia when you are going through the process of raising your awareness and exploring the greater nature of this 'reality'. Just a little shock to your system and your previous understanding of how things are. Once it settles in and you adjust and restore some balance you will feel better. Countless other people have experienced and been through what you are reporting so don't feel isolated or alone. I do agree with you that too much of anything can be detrimental so if you find yourself getting too worked up it would definitely be wise to take breaks and divert your focus/attention to other matters. Try and find a healthy BALANCE. ^^^this^^^ Once you take a fear based approach, you've already lost. Why? Because you'd rather play by their rules (that never existed) than by your own. And who are "they"? Control freaks and pedophiles for the most part. If you have to play their game, then make up your own rules. Basically, if you're not hurting yourself or others, then you're fine. Keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about "them". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32368412 Argentina 01/18/2013 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the truth is NOT what most people think it is. What is coming is not any of the kinds of doom you read about on this site or on many others. What is coming is the most positive change you could imagine, a new Golden Age, where we all get to see what it's like to live without the parasitical controllers we suffer with today. As other posters have said, talking about what you're beginning to understand is very difficult; few people are ready to hear what you have to say. Their brainwashing will kick in and you will generally get very stiff resistance, quizzical looks, and even outright anger. Tread lightly, let others awaken at their own speed if you can. Our numbers are growing, but it will take time for everyone to join us. Be patient. And enjoy the ride; it's going to be a beautiful one! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31883013 Indonesia 01/18/2013 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been lurking on this site for a few months, trying to work out how I feel about what I THOUGHT I knew. Now I feel compelled to sign up and join in. Many, many threads I've read on here make sense to me, government corruption, global debt, Sandy Hook, powerful people leading the sheep etc..... I no longer watch television, and I've banned my kids from watching Disney channels, (over-reacting, maybe?) I get news from here then confirm what I've heard with mainstream media BBC or Sky. Paranoia levels are high, am I putting my family in danger by just reading stuff on the web? Quoting: jlowen I decided to have a break from conspiracy stuff, charged my kindle to escape in to a "book" and something I saw gave me chills. When a site I use suggests recommendations to read, buy or watch, I used to think "how considerate, making personalised suggestions just for me", now it seems so much more sinister.....I realise that some computer somewhere knows what I like to read, eat, how old my kids are, how many pets I have, what I drive, what my husband does for a living.....I'll be honest, I'm very scared and I don't know what's real and what's not. Unfortunately my gut instinct tells me we live in a very corrupt society and the people in charge are NOT looking after our best interests and the future of our children but I don't know what to do about it. Sorry about my lengthy post, but it's been a long time coming! And now I'm reluctant to post.....paranoid again... YOU ARE A TRUTH SEEKER, ALL WHO COME HERE SEEK THE TRUTH!! |
jlowen (OP) User ID: 32048043 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most important thing to do is trust yourself. Trust your intuition. Question just about every major "news story" that you hear on the MSM (main stream media). A majority of it is laundered and skewed to fit a certain agenda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32027531 I woke up about 4 years ago. I stumbled across a few videos that made too much sense to me to ignore. So I kept digging and researching and looking into stories that seemed "fishy". I found too many holes and asked too many questions that the journalists covering the stories should have been asking, but weren't. Such as, where are the surveillance videos of the Sandy Hook massacre? They just invested in a brand new security system at the school. Cameras in every hallway and in every major classroom. Surely there must be something. After all, wouldn't they flaunt their "bad guy" all over the press? Wouldn't they play the tape over and over and over, saying "this is the bad guy. See his gun? See his evil?" But no. No video. Why? Because there was at least one more guy with him. Explain who was captured in the woods on the helicopter video. Explain who the cops had handcuffed on the floor when they arrived. They wouldn't slap the cuffs on a dead guy, so it wasn't Lanza. Where are there two men? Did the FBI show up and tell the local cops that "we got it from here" and then let the guys go? (probably) When the local cops got on the scene, they said that they found the shooter with 2 pistols on his body. A SIG Saur 9mm and a Glock 9mm. Two pistols. So why is everybody saying that it was an assault rifle? They pulled the assault rifle out of the trunk of the car. It was never used. Right? But then why did the coroner say that it was the primary weapon? And if it was, why are bullets being found lodged in the bodies and not in the walls? A .223 caliber bullet would go straight through a little kid (sorry to sound so crude) and probably through the next kid and then into a wall. They're not 9mm. COuld this explain why parents were not allowed to go into the school to see their child's body? Forensic "clean up"? What more did the forensic guy need to do that took 3 days? They found the guy, dead. And the guns. And the bodies. End of story, right? Why couldn't the parents go inside? What was going on in there for so long? Why isn't the media doing their job and asking these questions? Because they're all puppets, too. They've got a hand up their ass telling them what to say. The local journalists are probably still good, because they have big dreams of the big story breaking and their fame for being the first to report it. But then their editor tells them to stop sniffing around. Becuase their editors boss calls them up and tells him that his local station needs to stop sniffing around. Or else. Know this: Everything you are allowed to see on the television is part of the system. It's part of the theater. The propaganda. The lies. The deceit. The internet is the last place for people to get real news. I've asked some of these questions myself (only in my head, because I'm a pussy), it's frustrating....where do you get your REAL news from? I ask because when 10pm news is on in our house I shout at the telly, tell my husband its all lies....and he rolls his eyes and offers to get me sectioned (jokingly I hope). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2836766 United States 01/18/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | holy smokes - this is what I love about this site - the curious resonances that remind one we are not necessarily alone (in a good way - not in a surveilled big brother way) in our thoughts and feelings. I can't know why you posted this clip from cabaret, I can only tell how and why it resonated with me. I have been recently thinking this film and part of this clip in particular even though I probably haven't seen the movie in 30+ years. Nonetheless my thoughts have been about the weimar republic and its basis as the breeding grounds for fascism. In particular I recall in my minds eye the image of the emcee's (joel grey)distorted reflection in the mirror at the beginning of the film and the beautiful directorial symmetry of his distorted reflection in the mirror at the end of the film and how the shot then pulls back to reveal the twisted and distorted faces of the audience (our proxies) who think that they are only watching the show and not participants. That perhaps is part of this tragedy of our times - too many of us feel that we are only participant (willing or unwilling) and not actors in our own destiny. I know that just habituating this site feeds and gratifies one's "doom-bido" (it's like libido and morbido only its "doom") BUT I strongly feel that we are on the cusp of repeating some very bloody chapters in human history - perhaps this is what is meant by eternal recurrence - we are damned not just to forget but to repeat the past ad infinitum... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26836006 United States 01/18/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right, I didn't mean to come across self-obsessed, just concerned for the future of our kids....I will look into the things you mentioned (haven't a clue what they are), thanks for your support. Safety in numbers etc, etc. Quoting: jlowen Any advice on how to broach these theories with family or friends....my husband thinks I'm losing the plot or getting heavy? Go quietly about prepping for your family' needs.(foods, meds, etc) If hubby doesnt already get it with everything going on, odds are he won't get it even when you talk to him. Most people will only get it when it actually happens. Then he will thank you for preparing somewhat for his family. This is good advice. Talking too much about it can scare them so they go into denile. Just going about doing the prep work quietly is the best way. It is better to be safe than sorry in the long run. You can talk about it later when their eyes get opened. |