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Obama screws GNC employees - Is this the masterplan to destroy the economy? GNC Employess - listen up

 
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Sorry but GNC is a horrible company, you guys overcharge for EVERYTHING and your employees take advantage of customers by pushing snake oil on them relentlessly.

By the way, the decision to max your hours at 29/week was made by GNC's board of directors, not Obama.

This is coming from someone who strongly dislikes Obama btw.
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And you strongly dislike GNC, so don't shop there. The story is not about you.
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If the Board of Directors made the decision, why?
To not have to pay for the health care that is mandated by Obamacare.
Restricting the amount of time workers are allowed to work does not help the economy.
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Half of the employees probably voted for Obama, this is what they get
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He promised change, and that what they got
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Preach on. A vote for Obama was not a good thing.
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May I reprint and share your story?
There are things of such darkness and horror—just, I suppose, as there are things of such great beauty—that they will not fit through the puny human doors of perception.
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let's go down the rabbit hole:

1. GNC is a huge corporation
2. Obamacare is a disaster

Obamacare states that all employees are required to be covered by health insurance by the corporation except those employees working 29 hours or less, which are considered part time or seasonal.

So, the corporation is going to cut everyone hours to 29 or less to avoid paying healthcare for their employees -

now that's loyalty

and ... on top of that, some of those "part time" workers work 40 hours or more a week! Which would make them full time employees due full time employee benefits, which obviously are not being honored by calling them "part time employees"

Anyway, that's what I read from OP's sad tale and blame deflect.

It seems the only "losers" in all of this are ... once again ... wait for it .... THE PEOPLE!
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I do not remember where I heard this, so I cannot give credit. If anyone knows, I'd be delighted to hear...

One way to get around this Obamacare nightmare is to fire your employees and hire them back as sub-contractors or independent contractors. Theyd be responsible for paying their own taxes. Eliminate the employer/employee relationship.

Just like the thread about the doctors walking out of the meeting about Obamacare and the other instance of doctors charging cash and accepting no insurance, we the people must find a way around this to show our views (or save our company). Being forced into a corner makes you think outside the box.

Hope this helps somebody out there!
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What was that?

Didn't hear you, brah, I was pumping my bi's for a good burn.
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let's go down the rabbit hole:

1. GNC is a huge corporation
2. Obamacare is a disaster

Obamacare states that all employees are required to be covered by health insurance by the corporation except those employees working 29 hours or less, which are considered part time or seasonal.

So, the corporation is going to cut everyone hours to 29 or less to avoid paying healthcare for their employees -

now that's loyalty

and ... on top of that, some of those "part time" workers work 40 hours or more a week! Which would make them full time employees due full time employee benefits, which obviously are not being honored by calling them "part time employees"

Anyway, that's what I read from OP's sad tale and blame deflect.

It seems the only "losers" in all of this are ... once again ... wait for it .... THE PEOPLE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


The people, exactly!
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I do not remember where I heard this, so I cannot give credit. If anyone knows, I'd be delighted to hear...

One way to get around this Obamacare nightmare is to fire your employees and hire them back as sub-contractors or independent contractors. Theyd be responsible for paying their own taxes. Eliminate the employer/employee relationship.

Just like the thread about the doctors walking out of the meeting about Obamacare and the other instance of doctors charging cash and accepting no insurance, we the people must find a way around this to show our views (or save our company). Being forced into a corner makes you think outside the box.

Hope this helps somebody out there!
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there are businesses in my area that I know for a fact this is their strategy
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let's go down the rabbit hole:

1. GNC is a huge corporation
2. Obamacare is a disaster

Obamacare states that all employees are required to be covered by health insurance by the corporation except those employees working 29 hours or less, which are considered part time or seasonal.

So, the corporation is going to cut everyone hours to 29 or less to avoid paying healthcare for their employees -

now that's loyalty

and ... on top of that, some of those "part time" workers work 40 hours or more a week! Which would make them full time employees due full time employee benefits, which obviously are not being honored by calling them "part time employees"

Anyway, that's what I read from OP's sad tale and blame deflect.

It seems the only "losers" in all of this are ... once again ... wait for it .... THE PEOPLE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


Very well stated.

A lot of these people will now qualify for reduced, or free, Obamacare. Perhaps other benefits as well. They go from payers, to takers... not because they want to, but because they need healthcare.

Then, the Democrats will tell them that if they don't vote for them, the Republicans will take those benefits away.

By that time, they are not even living from pay-check to pay-check -- and they can't take the chance that they would lose the benefits.

They vote Democrat...

The Democrats completely takeover...

We lose our gun rights and no telling what else..

Collapse is the end result... but the American people have been screwed and cannot adequately defend ourselves.

Democrats will shed their false name, and simply admit to being communist progressives.

THE END.
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Anyone from GNC want to speak on this?

What about anyone who had their hours cut?
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I believe that being able to be healthy is a human right. It's impossible to live healthy in a city, on minimum wage, on 29 hours work, and once health deteriorates costs only increases specially if you're on minumum wage.
So I would forsee two outcomes: those who leave the job and those that are so miserably sick that can't come to work. GNC has to go as an online seller or out of business. No wait....the shippers "associates" also left or are sick, so anyway you look at it, out of business it is.

The real problem is America's sickcare cost. In Peru, I can walk into any hospital and with some luck get an appointment with a doctor, get my medicines and lab work coordinated in a couple of hours ($80-$300). If you need emergency treatment you get it inmediatly (surcharge $50).
That's because hospitals are not crowded at all, people are healthy and there is a semi-free($0-$25/month) government insurance plan (own hospitals, staff) that treats millions of peruvians.

The per-capita peruvian expenditure in medicines is $15 a
year!!!

Peruvian infant mortality and living expectations are exactly the same as americans!


So it' all about quality then?

American, British adults are 15 years older then parents!!!

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

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You have employees that are good employees.
You have good employees that want to work.
You have good employees that want to work, pay taxes on that income
and contribute. Then you are told, NO!

Make them get another job, then maybe they can work another 29 hours.
They can work two jobs, working over 58 hrs a week, and not qualify for any benefits.

GNC - Respect Yourself.
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I do not remember where I heard this, so I cannot give credit. If anyone knows, I'd be delighted to hear...

One way to get around this Obamacare nightmare is to fire your employees and hire them back as sub-contractors or independent contractors. Theyd be responsible for paying their own taxes. Eliminate the employer/employee relationship.

Just like the thread about the doctors walking out of the meeting about Obamacare and the other instance of doctors charging cash and accepting no insurance, we the people must find a way around this to show our views (or save our company). Being forced into a corner makes you think outside the box.

Hope this helps somebody out there!
 Quoting: mumf


there are businesses in my area that I know for a fact this is their strategy
 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


Unfortunately, it is more then people realize.
When you erode the core ability for someone to work, a multitude of problems will arise.
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I am a regional sales director for GNC(General Nutrition Centers). that's right the vitamin and supplement company. We rely heavily on our part time sales associates and now we are going to screw them all. We just had a national sales meeting. starting withing weeks, are sales associates will only be able to work a max of 29 hrs per week!

That is right fold, 29hrs is the limit. You know why?

ObamaCare!!!!

Some of our part time associates work 40 or more hours a week between different stores. This will force them to find other jobs to supplement their income, or steal from us.

Please tell me how this will help the economy?
It is all a big secret, they (GNC Brass) are unsure of how to tell our employees without causing major issues with morale.

Why did people vote for someone who is hell bent on destroying everything that made America great

Other companies are doing this as well. Is this how the next Civil War begins?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32046555


Because black folks think that if they bring everyone else down to their level, it makes us all equal in their eyes. They were slaves and they were poor, now it's our turn according to them. Got news for them, Things are gonna get so bad, you won't be able to get a job unless you can really read and write. The levels of education will be lowered yet again to make up for substandard schooling. and as you most of us already know, a lot of people can't even read and write basic English.
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It's not just GNC...it's all companies that want to weasel out of paying the higher costs.


The new normal will be part time jobs for everyone...

You'll still have to pay the penaly and you won't be able to afford to buy healthcrae...How many part time jobs will it take?

$7 an hour for the rest of your lives with no benefits and no retirement...it's the new work until you die mantra...

I warned of this many months ago...nobody paid attention...
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BINGO.

A system of dependency is being built.

A dependent population is easily controlled through manipulation of whatever it is they are dependent on.

This is Hitler's wetdream.
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It will be temporary workers only.
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I do not remember where I heard this, so I cannot give credit. If anyone knows, I'd be delighted to hear...

One way to get around this Obamacare nightmare is to fire your employees and hire them back as sub-contractors or independent contractors. Theyd be responsible for paying their own taxes. Eliminate the employer/employee relationship.

Just like the thread about the doctors walking out of the meeting about Obamacare and the other instance of doctors charging cash and accepting no insurance, we the people must find a way around this to show our views (or save our company). Being forced into a corner makes you think outside the box.

Hope this helps somebody out there!
 Quoting: mumf


Nope....IRS has regulations regarding "subcontractors & independent contractors".

The problem is....Government....they have no business being in business, dictating business or anything to do with business.

If you leave Industry alone, it will grow and mature on it's own. Sure basic guide lines are needed, but this BS is going to cripple businesses & the entire economy.

We have now become a Nation of Whiners, Beggars & Thieves!
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I am a regional sales director for GNC(General Nutrition Centers). that's right the vitamin and supplement company. We rely heavily on our part time sales associates and now we are going to screw them all. We just had a national sales meeting. starting withing weeks, are sales associates will only be able to work a max of 29 hrs per week!

That is right fold, 29hrs is the limit. You know why?

ObamaCare!!!!

Some of our part time associates work 40 or more hours a week between different stores. This will force them to find other jobs to supplement their income, or steal from us.

Please tell me how this will help the economy?
It is all a big secret, they (GNC Brass) are unsure of how to tell our employees without causing major issues with morale.

Why did people vote for someone who is hell bent on destroying everything that made America great

Other companies are doing this as well. Is this how the next Civil War begins?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32046555


Don't blame Obamacare on your company wanting to weasel out of providing for its employees.

It is a convenient excuse of corporations. Finally being forced to actually provide a small improvement to the quality of life for some of its employees seems to be a huge issue for shady parasitic corporations who only care about profits.

No sympathy here, you have essentially raped the small business person, perhaps those people will go out and work for smaller companies that give good healthcare for their next job....oh wait, you destroyed those opportunities a while ago.
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I am a regional sales director for GNC(General Nutrition Centers). that's right the vitamin and supplement company. We rely heavily on our part time sales associates and now we are going to screw them all. We just had a national sales meeting. starting withing weeks, are sales associates will only be able to work a max of 29 hrs per week!

That is right fold, 29hrs is the limit. You know why?

ObamaCare!!!!

Some of our part time associates work 40 or more hours a week between different stores. This will force them to find other jobs to supplement their income, or steal from us.

Please tell me how this will help the economy?
It is all a big secret, they (GNC Brass) are unsure of how to tell our employees without causing major issues with morale.

Why did people vote for someone who is hell bent on destroying everything that made America great

Other companies are doing this as well. Is this how the next Civil War begins?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32046555


Why are you blaming Obama? Seriously, the company is a sleaze bag as many companies today are. Screw the employee that generates the profits...because those CEOs need another private jet.
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Because that's what they do here at the blame Obama for everything website for retards.
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The hours worked by GNC employees will destroy the economy?

If that's the master plan, it's a piss poor one.
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So if people no longer work 40 hours a week, will they reduce the China made trinkets they buy. Will they spend more time with their families? Stop driving and wasting gas because they can?

Ever wonder where all this might lead? Less materialism, wasting of resources, less pollution and garbage. Keeping your old cell phone. LOL

It's all in how you look at it I guess.
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No.

The reason is greed. Greed from GNC. All the Republicans have been wanting to make it so companies can do this. They are getting their wish and trying to blame Obama at the same time. Moron.
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Remember George Carlin talked about this, too.
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OP, the exact same phenomenon is happening in the Food Manufacturing industry throughout most of California (I'm not aware of what is happening in other states). I know many food industry/manufacturing leaders in many companies and they will do this to their employees as well.

Another thing they are doing to get around this is funneling their present employees into Temp Agencies. It's very underhanded in many ways but the companies claim that they cannot afford Obamacare and hence why they do this.

I wish the media pulled its head out and showed this as the new reality for Americans (and illegals for that matter, which they hire as well and still fudge the paperwork).

I'd do a Youtube documentary on it but I don't know if my contacts would want to go public or if I would become a target of sorts.
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Oh if only someone could have predicted this before hand!!!!

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Hey all business owners and managers should post something like this so we can see just how bad the situation is.

I just posted about my company and industry
Thread: BREAKING: OBAMA KILLED YOUR GRANDMA Obama screws Senior care employees and kills economy

Who is next? I know there are a lot of business owners on here and everyone needs to see how he killed our economy


Thank you for posting this!
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It's not just GNC...it's all companies that want to weasel out of paying the higher costs.


The new normal will be part time jobs for everyone...

You'll still have to pay the penaly and you won't be able to afford to buy healthcrae...How many part time jobs will it take?

$7 an hour for the rest of your lives with no benefits and no retirement...it's the new work until you die mantra...

I warned of this many months ago...nobody paid attention...
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Damn, I should have paid attention to you.
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I was a manager for several GNC stores in Florida. This will make it almost impossible to even keep employees in the store for quite awhile. I imagine managers will be forced to work 80-100 hour weeks for who knows how long. That would suck! This is set to happen to at least 30% of ALL jobs in the US. I cannot imagine the havoc that will ensue!
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I was a manager for several GNC stores in Florida. This will make it almost impossible to even keep employees in the store for quite awhile. I imagine managers will be forced to work 80-100 hour weeks for who knows how long. That would suck! This is set to happen to at least 30% of ALL jobs in the US. I cannot imagine the havoc that will ensue!
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The manager will also pay the price. They will work over 40 hrs a week and see no overtime. They will delete any OT hrs for fear of termination. It has been done many times. There is currently a class action law suite because of this very thing, against GNC.





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